Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Wars can only be won by boots on the ground. It's sort of baked into the calculation of who won. You can't hold or occupy territory unless you're standing on it.

Even the electro-mechanical components require periodic inspection and refurbishing. These are not simple devices.

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Given the high level of corruption in the Russian military, I'd be surprised if they were really on top of this.

We are very happy where we are. The brochure is not just about war anyway.

British air defences are poor. We would struggle to stop a mass Russian conventional missile attack, placing much of our critical infrastructure at risk.

The Royal Navy has shrunk too far and is undermanned and poorly maintained. We would struggle to defend critical infrastructure assets in the North Sea and Atlantic, such as oil rigs, wind turbines and internet cables.

The war in Ukraine has demonstrated the importance of drones for ground warfare and the British Army is poorly equipped to adopt these technologies. That's the British Army that is deployed in the Baltic States as part of our NATO commitment to defend our allies.

The air force, as far as I'm aware, is in reasonably decent shape, albeit with relatively small reserves of ammunition.

‘Only on the brink do people find the will to change. Only at the precipice do we evolve’.

I would add to that @Nogaxeh we're also part of an alliance so we all bring different capabilities. It makes sense for Britain to focus on its navy and airforce as part of a larger European collaboration

It’s on Sky News at the moment (Beth Rigby interviewing) and Starmer just keeps reiterating his commitment to supporting Ukraine. I don’t think an outgoing president should be allowed to make decisions that could lead to an all out world war. Whether you like Trump or not, at least he seems more for trying to make peace. How can allowing US missiles to be used help the situation? It just drags us further into this conflict.
Life seems to be getting more and more depressing and uncertain with each passing month that goes by.

That's a fair point, but unfortunately the election of Trump means that NATO as a whole can no longer rely on the US providing some critical capabilities.

Key weaknesses are in satellite intelligence, airborne heavy lift and anti-air defence weapons.

Allowing Ukraine, a democracy, to use missiles to defend itself against invasion by a dictatorship, is not wrong.

It's not without risk, but standing by and doing nothing while a democracy is conquered by a dictatorship would be way more dangerous.

Sometimes you have to defend yourself. If a person attacked you in the street you'd call the police to help you, and you wouldn't be impressed if they declined to do so because they were worried about getting involved.

Yea his idea of peace is for Ukraine to surrender. And surely no one is naive enough to believe that Putin will stop at Ukraine.

Same. There's nothing we can do. Pointless prepping for it. Get on with your life.

And signals intelligence. While GCHQ is very good, they don't have the worldwide coverage that the NSA provides.

is this still the case in the digital era we live in?

Putin escalated this by getting North Korea involved.

Reminds me of ‘’Team America World Police’

Exactly this. Covid died out. Look how ppl went mad there panic buying for what

I get you princess and you are right.

We have to carry on regardless so why worry in advance about something which may not happen? Worry if and when it does - or find something practical to do if you can.

As for 'prepping', I bought loads of stuff at the start of the pandemic, some of which I never used. I was able to get groceries delivered throughout, sometimes items were missing but it was fine. Therefore I am not 'prepping' any more than I do already. I don't have much room since I downsized anyway.

We've been here before and no doubt will be again, no point in being anxious.

I am a SAHP (P for pensioner).

No it’s not.

If Russia went to war on the west they'd (Russia) lose (unequivocally so!).
As for nuclear, the existence of these weapons is such now that we'd be certain of MAD (mutually assured destruction), and no nation wants that.

I DO think we'll continue to see certain countries at war, in a cycle of escalating and de-escalating. In terms of WW3 though, absolutely no chance.

I don't know the stocks of ammunition we have but given the rate Ukraine is using it, it wont be enough for any protracted battle.

It should be a concern as is the UK having the same MBT but with 2 different types of ammunition in a conflict, like i said the upgrade is many years away.

I guess the belief that modern wars wouldn't be fought with tanks and artillery has proven to be wrong.

However, i think should the west hold its nerve and face down Putin, a resolution that saves some Russian face, can be had... i think that will involve some territory being handed over to Russia, its inevitable i'm afraid.. ... just a question of how much.

It’s not Trumpy propaganda. Putin signed the new law this morning. Basically if any nuclear power or coalition attacks Russia with conventional weapons, or enables Ukraine to do so, then if Russia perceives it to be an existential threat, they can retaliate with nuclear weapons. Against any or all of the states they perceive to be involved. It covers pretty much every eventuality. The military experts are saying that this is just a repeat of the rhetoric 1000 days ago when Russia invaded, but I’m not convinced this isn’t wishful thinking.

Visited Hamburg recently where they are already trying out air raid sirens in case of attack. The UK is totally unprepared for war - totally. We tend to live in a cosy bubble thinking that war or an attack (maybe nuclear) will never happen. We have reduced our weaponry and armed forced to a rump.

Do you know where your nearest air raid shelter is? Few of us do. Local councils and government shockingly complaisant.

It’s a disgrace that someone whose own party had him step down as incompetent is allowed to make such decisions. The man isn’t well, and has his own agenda for this. He’s just thrown the safety and security of his own people into disarray. If I was an American, I would be bloody furious. I just hope Starmer takes a step back and doesn’t join the lunatic in provoking a war.

If you have ten minutes to listen I will let Professor Jeffrey Sachs explain it much better than I can.

Please note that nations APPLIED to join NATO (a defensive alliance) because they have SOVEREIGNTY. That's their right isn't it? The narrative about NATO expansion as an aggression is one used by the Kremlin.