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Rachel Reeves lied on her CV was not an “Economist”

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Disappointedagain22 · 16/11/2024 11:33

AIBU - it’s OK to lie to get ahead

AINBU - it’s bad RReeves very Publicly lied about her prior work. We are right to feel annoyed by this lie.

saw this headline and am feeling really disappointed. Think Rachel Reeves needs to tell public exactly her job title.
She changed job title from Economist, to “Retail Banking”
An Economist at a Bank, is a clear and specific job, it’s a economic research position. A good experience for her current position.

”Retail Banking” - is not a job title … she could have been doing anything in a branch from Bank Teller, to Branch manager, or working in back office operations putting bank notes in the plastic bags or in HR.

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EasternStandard · 16/11/2024 15:02

She was in retail banking is that the story? I haven't followed this

She does have an issue with the recent growth figures stagnating so that might be more of a problem if she can't turn that around

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 15:04

BIossomtoes · 16/11/2024 14:49

The only pledges that matter are those in the manifesto. I don’t remember council tax or WFA ever being mentioned. Is a source available?

So politicians can say anything in the run up to the election and as long as it isn’t in their manifesto it doesn’t count?

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 15:08

Citrusandginger · 16/11/2024 14:55

So should all chancellors have an economics qualification, or just the female ones?

Do any? Or should there be very well qualified senior civil servants who are the economists who can give them the options and tell them the impact of their political choices on the economy?

Tiredalwaystired · 16/11/2024 15:12

I mean, Trumps just appointed a tv host to his senior team. I’m not sure career history really matters when you’re an MP anyway. Just sounds like you’re looking for reasons to be riled by Labour really.

MonkeyToHeaven · 16/11/2024 15:12

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/11/2024 14:06

There are far too many politicians who know nothing expect Westminster, following the student politics, party worker, advisor, MP route. And we all remember the calibre of people who ran the student union ;)

The city is worried about growth. Growth appears to be stalling, but that could just be because the governments messaging has been so negative since it took power or it could be because the budget changes make growth unlikely. Probably both - the UK is not an attractive place to invest, but let’s see how it pans out for the UK over the next 6 months. I have been out of the UK for most of the time since the election, and it doesn’t matter whether you are in Europe, the US or Asia, when the conversation turns to the UKs economic prospects the consensus is pretty negative.

The city? Why should anyone concerned with running a country listen to the financial sector? They had their chance, with market deregulation and massive expansion and failed miserably. They didn't generate the levels of public investment that we needed for growth, crashed the global financial markets in 2008? and the fact we had to then bail them out, at public expense, is why we got austerity in the first place.

HonoraBridge · 16/11/2024 15:13

PandoraSox · 16/11/2024 11:51

Source is the Daily Mail. Shocked face

It’s not just in the Daily Mail!

HonoraBridge · 16/11/2024 15:14

Tiredalwaystired · 16/11/2024 15:12

I mean, Trumps just appointed a tv host to his senior team. I’m not sure career history really matters when you’re an MP anyway. Just sounds like you’re looking for reasons to be riled by Labour really.

The point is that Reeves misrepresented her experience.

Zonder · 16/11/2024 15:19

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 14:36

I had graduates who were research assistants. Not a lot of responsibility.

What would you have liked her to do? Join as a graduate and immediately become governor? It shows she was doing a relevant job and getting appropriate experience.

Anonycat · 16/11/2024 15:21

Ytcsghisn · 16/11/2024 11:46

It sounds like, she basically made tea for the economists at BoE as an intern or something. Like when someone washes dishes at a restaurant for a summer job but calls themselves a Michelin star chef.

Also as the rumours go, she was pretty crap while she was there.

To think she is now running the economy should send shivers down the spine. A lying, incompetent, unqualified socialist at the treasury. You couldn’t make this shit up.

This is why Labour and Starmer keep banging on about the first female chancellor nonsense. Even if she was any good, the first female chancellor thing is a nonsense because we have had three women in the top job above chancellor already.

This is a prime example of why the left needs to keep resorting to identity politics. Because they’ve got nothing else to show. No actual credentials, competence or experience. The government is entirely made up of people who’ve never done real wealth creating jobs, and basically ripped off the public in Mickey Mouse public sector jobs.

Rachel Reeves will kill what’s left of the country’s economy. She is absolutely useless, you wouldn’t pay her to manage your children’s pocket money.

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Funny how you forgot to mention that she has a Master's degree in Economics from the LSE… but why let any actual facts get in the way of your prejudices.

poetryandwine · 16/11/2024 15:23

HonoraBridge · 16/11/2024 15:14

The point is that Reeves misrepresented her experience.

Not if you count an MSc in the subject from a world leading institute in the field as a qualification. From my perspective as an academic that is ample in itself. Never mind that Economist is not a protected designation, means different things to different people, and has not been negated by the update, which could be based on any number of things.

@HonoraBridge what do you think of Margaret Thatcher’s claims to have been a scientist, based on her UG degree in Chemistry (like RR’s PPE degree, from Oxford) and her work for an ice cream manufacturer?

Jellytrain · 16/11/2024 15:23

Ytcsghisn · 16/11/2024 11:46

It sounds like, she basically made tea for the economists at BoE as an intern or something. Like when someone washes dishes at a restaurant for a summer job but calls themselves a Michelin star chef.

Also as the rumours go, she was pretty crap while she was there.

To think she is now running the economy should send shivers down the spine. A lying, incompetent, unqualified socialist at the treasury. You couldn’t make this shit up.

This is why Labour and Starmer keep banging on about the first female chancellor nonsense. Even if she was any good, the first female chancellor thing is a nonsense because we have had three women in the top job above chancellor already.

This is a prime example of why the left needs to keep resorting to identity politics. Because they’ve got nothing else to show. No actual credentials, competence or experience. The government is entirely made up of people who’ve never done real wealth creating jobs, and basically ripped off the public in Mickey Mouse public sector jobs.

Rachel Reeves will kill what’s left of the country’s economy. She is absolutely useless, you wouldn’t pay her to manage your children’s pocket money.

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What a cruel right wing thing to write. She is caring and kind as far as I can see and wants society to improve. How about you? What are you doing?

Ytcsghisn · 16/11/2024 15:29

Jellytrain · 16/11/2024 15:23

What a cruel right wing thing to write. She is caring and kind as far as I can see and wants society to improve. How about you? What are you doing?

Why not go the distance and come out with ‘be kind’.

Caring and kind lol. What is this? The Disney channel?

So now the attribute required for running the country’s finances is that you need to be caring and kind. Never mind competent. Even if rainbows and unicorns was the requirement, how do you she is caring and kind? Are you her mother?

Honestly, the country is f’d. when caring and kind is what people think is the overarching requirement to run the government.

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 15:30

Zonder · 16/11/2024 15:19

What would you have liked her to do? Join as a graduate and immediately become governor? It shows she was doing a relevant job and getting appropriate experience.

Not misrepresent her experience in such a way that she subsequently feels it necessary to have to correct her linked in profile.

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 15:34

She is caring and kind as far as I can see

I take it you are not a low income pensioner who has just lost their winter fuel allowance.

Julen7 · 16/11/2024 15:34

Jellytrain · 16/11/2024 15:23

What a cruel right wing thing to write. She is caring and kind as far as I can see and wants society to improve. How about you? What are you doing?

Caring and kind? How exactly (not that these qualities are remotely pertinent to being a good Chancellor)

Ytcsghisn · 16/11/2024 15:35

The markets have reacted negatively to the budget. Business leaders are roundly condemning the budget. And growth figures released yesterday show a sharp slowdown, when the numbers are revised, the country will actually be in decline.

There you have it. That’s how good she is. But at least she is a woman, right? And caring and kind apparently. Who knew.

Cue the predictable responses about tories blah blah, Liz Truss blah, Kwasi blah blah blah. Because it’s cold comfort and cancels out everything that is being done by a chancellor who seems to have accidentally fallen into no.11.

poetryandwine · 16/11/2024 15:35

@Ytcsghisn How about giving us some facts rather than rumours?

On what factual grounds do you classify RR as a Socialist? As bad at her previous jobs? Again, facts please.

And factually, which party has been in power for the last 14 years while the British economy has been stagnating, including languishing at the bottom if the G7 growth table since the pandemic? Which hapless PM and Chancellor crashed the pound just a couple of years ago?

Your much vaunted wealth creation hadn’t done the country has a whole a bloody bit of good.

poetryandwine · 16/11/2024 15:36

Ytcsghisn · 16/11/2024 15:35

The markets have reacted negatively to the budget. Business leaders are roundly condemning the budget. And growth figures released yesterday show a sharp slowdown, when the numbers are revised, the country will actually be in decline.

There you have it. That’s how good she is. But at least she is a woman, right? And caring and kind apparently. Who knew.

Cue the predictable responses about tories blah blah, Liz Truss blah, Kwasi blah blah blah. Because it’s cold comfort and cancels out everything that is being done by a chancellor who seems to have accidentally fallen into no.11.

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Yes, because happily facts trump bias

poetryandwine · 16/11/2024 15:40

Why are you unprepared to give the woman a chance? Gonna hit ya where it hurts?

Our taxes will undoubtedly continue to increase, but that’s the price of a more just and more pleasant society. No one is keeping you here by force.

BigBlossom · 16/11/2024 15:43

HermioneWeasley · 16/11/2024 11:36

She was very liberal with company expenses when she worked in retail banking as well

Saw a big banner on the M40 today going towards Oxfordshire about Rachel Thieves as they called her. Don't remember the words but It made me laugh. How much she is hated.

CurlewKate · 16/11/2024 15:46

@Ytcsghisn "Also as the rumours go, she was pretty crap while she was there. "

Sources, please?

cardibach · 16/11/2024 15:48

BigBlossom · 16/11/2024 15:43

Saw a big banner on the M40 today going towards Oxfordshire about Rachel Thieves as they called her. Don't remember the words but It made me laugh. How much she is hated.

I don’t hate her. And it’s not her job to be liked.
What I do dislike, really quite a lot, is the immature and frankly stupid making up, or finding hilarious, of ‘funny’ puns on people's names. I automatically discount anything else said by the people who like them so much.

louddumpernoise · 16/11/2024 15:58

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/11/2024 14:40

The UK has been at the bottom of the G7 growth tables twice in the last 25 years, and for most of the rest of it around the middle of the road. It’s only been top twice - in 2014 and in the post Covid bounce. But let’s not let facts get in the way of politics ;) The problem is she called it a budget for growth, and Starmer is on record as saying he will make the UK the fastest growing economy in the G7. But the first budget sets us back, instead of moving us forward. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to highlight the contradiction.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1370599/g7-country-gdp-growth/

The press and the Tories have to be held to account here and one or two posters on MN too.
All they did is make up total fabrications on what the budget would bring, we had numerous headlines on Council Tax increases, removal of single person discount, the end of pension tax relief, IHT threshold would go .... it was non stop, many threads on here too by many new posters.

This of course made the general public wary.

If growth has faltered its primarily down to this & the policies of the last Govt.... the budget was just 2 weeks ago, not enough time to say one way or another what it has achieved.

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 16:00

languishing at the bottom if the G7 growth table

can you link me to this? I am having trouble finding information that reflects this statement. Not at the bottom here:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1370599/g7-country-gdp-growth/

G7 GDP growth 2024 | Statista

GDP growth was slow in the G7 countries in 2023 and 2024 amid high inflation rates.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1370599/g7-country-gdp-growth

Zonder · 16/11/2024 16:02

TrumptonsFireEngine · 16/11/2024 15:30

Not misrepresent her experience in such a way that she subsequently feels it necessary to have to correct her linked in profile.

Oh come on!

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