Why are people boycotting Boots? Are you?

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For full disclosure I haven't seen the advert yet, but I'll probably end up searching for it if I don't come across it naturally during viewing in the next few days.

I've seen the #boycottboots and have worked out it's to do with their new Christmas ad. What's the issue? Are you boycotting Boots or do you think people are overreacting?

Randomly choosing the poll options simply because as stated I've not seen the ad so I don't currently have an opinion either way

YABU I'm boycotting
YANBU it's an overreaction

You don’t have to like anything you don’t want to as long as you don’t go out of your way to hurt others or make offensive comments

Unacceptable
Terribly white

Acceptable
"If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed."
"If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an airplane, or swims and is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it,"
“How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?”
“It looks as if it was put in by an Indian”

'that woman' was not wrong.

Yes it is a staggeringly odd and irrelevant thing to comment on isn't it.

Oh crikey, you don’t want to be bringing up Sinterklass on this thread. The bishop who sails to the Netherlands from Spain with his white horse, and lots of ahem, helpers. Like elves, but supposedly covered in soot as they go up and down chimneys. That is why they are called black, allegedly. Children put their (empty) shoes in front of a fire place a few times a week in December, and if they are very good a ‘Zwarte Piet’ (one of the numerous ‘black Pete’ helpers) leave a little pressie therein. If a child is very bad, Sinterklass might pop them in a sack and bring them back with him to Spain. The ‘Zwarte Piets’ can be mischievous, and play tricks and get into trouble.

The arrival of Sinterklass’ ship is huge for children. Sinterklass arrives in different places, at different times, and is even covered on TV. Even adults exchange a Sinterklass pressie. Like a secret Santa, but with lots of thought of suitability, and apt poems/rhymes. It’s the thought and creativity, not the cost.

The whole Sinterklass story is most surely equally, if not even more believeable than the Santa counterpart.

Agree
Our German taught kids always put their shoes out at Christmas and the teachers put treats for when they arrived at school the next day.
Its a tradition we still do

Absolutely not. But that’s a lot of marrying relations…mind you, Harry tried someone not of his ‘class’ and not white and look what happened there

Well that’s a whole other story….

Nobody's doing that on this thread. Or are you referring to comments made on twitter?

No I was responding to the person I tagged who asked a question
I don’t do twitter or anything else .

Drag Queens on SCD now….

Tut tut.

Wise person. I can't stand twitter. I have been reading the entire thread and I haven't seen one hate filled transphobic comment on here, thankfully.

He also served his country with distinction, was a dutiful husband and consort, and knew more about duty, obligation and sacrifice than anyone on this thread.

You might want to show a little respect, but they are your values.

Nobody said you had to like them. Getting openly offended by them is very different.

That’s a tricky one .
Im not condoning people who are rude to anyone but I am trying to work through how others may feel

many people are ‘offended by drag queens as they believe it makes a mockery of women’…..( I don’t agree but that’s my choice )
So to someone who believes someone is mocking them it’s probably difficult to be told they have to suck it up.

After all, mocking people is wrong.

Perhaps each ‘side’ need to steer clear of each other or at least respect each other’s opinion.

I agree especially as it's a more privileged and entitled group (men) mocking a very vulnerable one (women). Men have a lot of power and rights especially if they present as women. Women not so much. I completely see how it's the same as blackface. That said, I get that to some it's a light hearted entertainment . They're entitled to that view.

What I find weird is how it's considered problematic to not want to see drag on tv. It's an art form some enjoy and others don't . We don't consider it offensive if someone doesn't like opera ! I say that as a former trained classical mezzo soprano. If people don't like to see me warbling away in German or Italian, it's not discrimination. I'm not being abused or oppressed.

If someone isn't into drag, so what ? Some of us don't want to be an ally or a social justice warrior. Especially when no real injustice is being committed.

We thankfully live in a country where those who present as opposite sex are not denied their rights in any way shape or form.

I think the whole advert - from the actress chosen, the they/them pronouns and the drag queens - is just perceived as being a cacophony of wokeness, and wokeness is now under serious attack. The American election results have given more credibility to anti woke views.

This advert was probably planned last January. No retailer would go in with a very explicitly work advert in the current political climate.

Although I’m not aware anyone finds opera offensive or mocking to them personally, which some do of drag.
Although agree, it’s on TV just turn over,

Unacceptable
Terribly white

Acceptable
"If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed."
"If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an airplane, or swims and is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it,"
“How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?”
“It looks as if it was put in by an Indian”

'that woman' was not wrong.*

Who thinks those comments are acceptable? They are disgusting. So because a dead person with a backwards attitude made vile remarks- she's allowed to say whatever she likes? Right ok then.
So all white families aren't ok and that's to be commented on is it?

Yeah it doesn't affect my life in any way. I hate Christmas adverts any way, they so lame. Oh I guess that's offensive too for some people but I'm not able bodied so it's ok for me to use that word!😁😂

Who thinks those comments are acceptable?

Well, plenty of people did by their excusing away of it all.
I remember well comments like
"it's just banter"
"Ah, it's just the way he is, doesn't mean anything by it. Bless him" type comments at the time.

I still don't know what is wrong with the Boots advert. i will have to watch it again with a more critical eye.

I have re-watched on Youtube and still cannot see anything controversial. It's quite cheerful.

How is transphobia or homophobia not comparable to racism? They are both forms of discrimination. People get killed for it everyday. Even in the U.K.
If you don’t like drag queens, don’t become one.

People may try to say they're not all comparable, but they are.
The arguments and "concerns" are identical for racism, homophobia and transphobia.
Whether it's by believing they're (they're being whichever bigotry you're subscribing to) colonising /taking over/coming for your kids - it's the exact same script and playbook.

RTFT
start at the beginning

@TofuTart I agree that the concerns are all similar.

The issue is that men (of any sexual persuasion or colour or race) turn out to be the dangerous ones.
So trans women ( as opposed to trans men) could be problematic given they are still men. I think the statistics also bear this out.