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Why are people boycotting Boots? Are you?

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Deadbeatex · 14/11/2024 18:30

For full disclosure I haven't seen the advert yet, but I'll probably end up searching for it if I don't come across it naturally during viewing in the next few days.

I've seen the #boycottboots and have worked out it's to do with their new Christmas ad. What's the issue? Are you boycotting Boots or do you think people are overreacting?

Randomly choosing the poll options simply because as stated I've not seen the ad so I don't currently have an opinion either way

YABU I'm boycotting
YANBU it's an overreaction

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Fevertreelover · 14/11/2024 23:18

Well nothing in it offends me but it is shite.

BetterInColour · 14/11/2024 23:25

I'm not saying you have to agree with that, but I think it is really low to try and suggest that the people who feel uncomfortable are now somehow racist

People can be offended in more than one way. There are definitely people who are being racist, my dd was watching a TikTok video just yesterday that was saying some very unpleasant things along those lines.

There's multiple things to be offended by if you are so inclined and it may be different things for different people. I didn't mind it, it's a hymn to consumerism but it doesn't want to make me boycott (or use) Boots.

ThisTeaIsBad · 14/11/2024 23:43

Ohhbaby · 14/11/2024 19:01

Thats definately why! I think it is really disingenuous to suggest it is because there is a black woman in it. No - one has a problem with a black woman! I just googled the advert and I understand why people feel uncomfortable with all the men dressing up as woman. We are having to fight to get men out of our bathrooms and keep on trying to say that dressing up as a woman when you are a fully intact male, does not make you a female. And know it feels as if boots are celebrating that.
And I'm not saying you have to agree with that, but I think it is really low to try and suggest that the people who feel uncomfortable are now somehow racist

I suggest you find the advert on the Boots FB page and read the comments on there.

Why are people boycotting Boots? Are you?
Why are people boycotting Boots? Are you?
Why are people boycotting Boots? Are you?
swimsong · 14/11/2024 23:47

ShinyOtter · 14/11/2024 18:49

Well it could be that I guess . Still not the same as racism as such because drag queen is a fetish, a paraphilia, not an identity. There isn't the same oppression as with racism. Homophobia is of course wrong but it may be that people don't want their children exposed to sexual fetishes? Maybe that's it . I can't speak for these people but the reasons are probably quite varied.

It's what? Drag Queen shows are about entertainment - it has ancient theatrical roots - performers are not claiming to be women. There is no more likelihood that a drag queen on stage is a fetishist/paraphiliac than any man you in a suit that you walk past in the street, who may well have a full closet of women's wear.

mrlistersgelfbride · 14/11/2024 23:56

The advert is not really my taste but I think that's because it's not traditionally christmassy/warm and fuzzy
Won't be boycotting Boots that's crazy!

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2024 00:02

Livelovebehappy · 14/11/2024 21:38

Come on. No-ones keeping a tally. You pointed out that in your opinion people were boycotting Boots because a person of colour was in it. I pointed out in my opinion this was bollocks because there were people of colour in most adverts. You clearly don’t like me challenging your opinion, so try to make it into something it isn’t 🤷‍♀️

Gosh, if no one is keeping a tally how could anyone make any sort of comment about the number of black people in adverts being 'disproportionate'? You'd need to be doing some sort of count, surely?

tillyandmilly · 15/11/2024 00:02

In all honesty - it’s rubbish - however Tesco’s advert is
heartwarming and my favourite

TriesNotToBeCynical · 15/11/2024 00:04

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2024 00:02

Gosh, if no one is keeping a tally how could anyone make any sort of comment about the number of black people in adverts being 'disproportionate'? You'd need to be doing some sort of count, surely?

The bigots and fascists are certainly keeping a tally - a constant complaint on fora, especially for the older generation, is that there are "too many" black actors on telly.

WhatterySquash · 15/11/2024 00:09

Drag Queen shows are about entertainment - it has ancient theatrical roots - performers are not claiming to be women.

That used to be true, and I agree with a PP that some acts like Edna Everage were funny and no one was meant to think Edna was actually a woman - that was the joke.

But over the past decade or so Stonewall has said that cross-dressing and drag is included in "trans", and as cross-dressing is actually often a fetish, we're now supposed to accept men who get turned on by wearing stereotyped sexualised women's clothes as actual women. There's also been a big trend in drag acts performing for children, often in a very sexual way and it's moved away from its gay club traditions. So it has all become part of gender activism (though to be fair some drag performers have spoken out against this and said it's an adult thing and not for kids).

WhatterySquash · 15/11/2024 00:13

You don't have to keep a tally to notice that ads used to occasionally feature ethnic minorities and now very often do, more so than is representative of the country. I can notice that without thinking it's a bad thing - I don't.

However I'm sure someone somewhere does count things like that as it's the kind of thing poeple do PhDs on etc. Would there be something wrong with it if they did?

Livelovebehappy · 15/11/2024 00:13

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2024 00:02

Gosh, if no one is keeping a tally how could anyone make any sort of comment about the number of black people in adverts being 'disproportionate'? You'd need to be doing some sort of count, surely?

Erm. Nope. I haven't counted them. You're just choosing not to get where I'm coming from with this, and it's getting really tedious. My final word on it - no, i dont think people are boycotting Boots because there's a person of colour in their advert, the reason being theres diversity in most TV adverts. There, I've tried to keep it simple and brief. Hope it helps. If not, I cant help you further.

Livelovebehappy · 15/11/2024 00:20

TriesNotToBeCynical · 15/11/2024 00:04

The bigots and fascists are certainly keeping a tally - a constant complaint on fora, especially for the older generation, is that there are "too many" black actors on telly.

Give over. No-one on this post has said that at all. You're definitely looking for something which isn't there. And all the name calling isnt going to change that. There's absolutely nothing on social media which suggests people are boycotting because of anything to do with race. You're fabricating to fit your own agenda.

WhatterySquash · 15/11/2024 00:22

I mean you often see statistics about ethnic minority representation, eg only 1% of university professors are black, likewise film directors etc, and stats about academic achievement among different ethnic groups. People are always talking about representation on Strictly, and checking how many contestants and how many winers have been ethnic minorities. Is that OK? Is it only OK if they're under-represented, and not if they're not?

Deja321 · 15/11/2024 00:24

She described the Royal family as 'terribly white' which is a very racist comment. Just as it would be if someone described any family or crowd of people as 'terribly black". If a white actress said such a thing it would seriously damage or end their career. I imagine her blatant racism is why people are upset. Racism is completely unacceptable whoever is doing it.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 15/11/2024 00:32

Deja321 · 15/11/2024 00:24

She described the Royal family as 'terribly white' which is a very racist comment. Just as it would be if someone described any family or crowd of people as 'terribly black". If a white actress said such a thing it would seriously damage or end their career. I imagine her blatant racism is why people are upset. Racism is completely unacceptable whoever is doing it.

It's not a very racist comment. It's a bit crass, but it's not criticising the royal family as people, which would be quite racist, but merely contrasting them with the coronation crowd, from all corners of the world. And 'terribly' in context doesn't mean they're 'terrible' its just an emphasis like 'very'. So its a crass thing to say, but not insulting to the Royal family personally, and she apologised the next day when she realised how bad it sounded. So, no, it's an inappropriate observation in the context and she rightly apologised for it. But it certainly wasn't a racist insult to the Royal Family, which is what the fascists are making it out to be. (edited for typo)

Simonjt · 15/11/2024 00:34

Deja321 · 15/11/2024 00:24

She described the Royal family as 'terribly white' which is a very racist comment. Just as it would be if someone described any family or crowd of people as 'terribly black". If a white actress said such a thing it would seriously damage or end their career. I imagine her blatant racism is why people are upset. Racism is completely unacceptable whoever is doing it.

It isn’t racist, its factual.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 15/11/2024 00:42

Deja321 · 15/11/2024 00:24

She described the Royal family as 'terribly white' which is a very racist comment. Just as it would be if someone described any family or crowd of people as 'terribly black". If a white actress said such a thing it would seriously damage or end their career. I imagine her blatant racism is why people are upset. Racism is completely unacceptable whoever is doing it.

It wouldn't necessarily be racist to point out that a particular event had a lot of black, or indeed gay, or even female supporters. It depends why you wanted to point it out. You can remark on something without intending an insult to the people involved.

pl228 · 15/11/2024 01:14

Simonjt · 15/11/2024 00:34

It isn’t racist, its factual.

the bones of it is factual - the family/balcony was “white” - but to say “terribly white” doesn’t sit so well with me. I know that terribly can, and indeed might have been in this case, used as an intensifier, but it is a word that really does have negative connotations - which probably were intended. It was a strange comment. How can we get diversity into the royal family? Tell George, Charlotte and Louis that they must not marry / reproduce with anyone white?

Stephy1886 · 15/11/2024 01:15

The gammons are rattled about a made up character (Santa) having a black wife

again, santa is a totally fictional character

much like how they were upset about a black mermaid

TofuTart · 15/11/2024 01:20

Nine9 · 14/11/2024 19:03

I haven't seen the ad, but I KNEW before I read it in various posts on this thread that it would be due to a non-white person being featured.
I remember the embarrassing and ridiculous uproar when Sainsburys featured a black family in their ad because white people didn't feel "represented" and that they clearly weren't wanted as customers. Utterly pathetic (I'm also white).

Same, I remember the ridiculous Sainsbury's furore too as they had the audacity to feature a black family.
Also white here and definitely won't be boycotting - in fact I feel some Christmas shopping at Boots coming on.
If they're winding racists up just by merely featuring a black woman they must be doing something right.

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 15/11/2024 01:22

Deja321 · 15/11/2024 00:24

She described the Royal family as 'terribly white' which is a very racist comment. Just as it would be if someone described any family or crowd of people as 'terribly black". If a white actress said such a thing it would seriously damage or end their career. I imagine her blatant racism is why people are upset. Racism is completely unacceptable whoever is doing it.

She also apologised for the comment, and as for her blatant racism, she is, for the record , married to a white person.

TofuTart · 15/11/2024 01:28

pl228 · 15/11/2024 01:14

the bones of it is factual - the family/balcony was “white” - but to say “terribly white” doesn’t sit so well with me. I know that terribly can, and indeed might have been in this case, used as an intensifier, but it is a word that really does have negative connotations - which probably were intended. It was a strange comment. How can we get diversity into the royal family? Tell George, Charlotte and Louis that they must not marry / reproduce with anyone white?

It was a white balcony though.
I honestly can't get worked up about Adjoah commenting on that fact.
George, Charlotte and Louis should be free to marry who they love, and have them accepted by all whatever their skin colour.

feederstripe · 15/11/2024 01:34

the Boots in Crouch End is useless anyway so I never go in but I now have yet another reason not to use it I don't want adverts preaching woke politics at me - keep your politics to yourself - ALL politics
ask yourself "am I virtue signalling? Do I really care about these issues or do I just want people to like me?"
you may be shocked at the answer

TofuTart · 15/11/2024 01:43

feederstripe · 15/11/2024 01:34

the Boots in Crouch End is useless anyway so I never go in but I now have yet another reason not to use it I don't want adverts preaching woke politics at me - keep your politics to yourself - ALL politics
ask yourself "am I virtue signalling? Do I really care about these issues or do I just want people to like me?"
you may be shocked at the answer

What is it that you find woke?
Genuine question.
Is it that a black woman is featured?
Or that there's drag queens?
Are you upset because it's a woman and you feel she's dissing and undermining Santa and should be at home baking mince pies and knowing her place ?!
Or all of those? Something else?! ....

pl228 · 15/11/2024 01:53

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 15/11/2024 01:22

She also apologised for the comment, and as for her blatant racism, she is, for the record , married to a white person.

Plenty of misogynists are married to women. I don’t think who she’s married to makes her exempt from accusations of racism. I have no idea whether she’s racist.

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