"chest feeding" men should not be put above women and babies by La Leche League. Reasonable?

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How many women will self exclude based on this outcome? How many children will suffer because of it? Anything more than zero is unacceptable

This is the direct and foreseeable outcome of ever allowing the word woman to be mutable. This is the ultimate outcome of all these progressive policies, generally well meaning, with terrible outcomes

https://archive.ph/NsquC

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/breastfeeding-charity-chief-quits-over-transgender-policy-zhvhl8nps

Identity politics should be dead and we need to bury it.

True, but in fact just about unheard of in the real world! It may be theoretically possible (but not really successful) in a research setting, but in practice it's much more relevant (and successful) in working people up into a froth of outrage!

Transmen chestfeeding is what the policy is really about.

Here is the NHS's stance.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10892531/NHS-accused-putting-babies-harm-advice-trans-women-wanting-breastfeed.html

It's actually MEN, larping as women who have a fetish for being seen as women, even mothers, who have been demanding this. They take drugs to produce ' milk' ( which is obviously not breast milk, God knows what's in it, and I'm sure it's not good for babies...)

It gets worse. Women who discuss it online in Australia can be told they have broken the law. Because a male centred experience (there is no proven robust study done on these secretions to show they are safe in the long term) must only be celebrated apparently.

Two Australian Women Told They Broke The Law After Criticizing Trans-Identified Male Breastfeeding Child - Reduxx

Yeah, it's the engineered slippery language that makes these conversations almost impossible. It's not an accident, it's by design.

And yeah, men who are chemically inducing nipple discharge to make infants a prop in their gender delusion are grim. And that's the best case scenario.

Posters bringing up transmen evidently haven't read the article linked to.

"A trustee and PR director of Britain’s oldest breastfeeding charity has resigned after it introduced an inclusivity policy that allowed men to attend support groups.

Miriam Main is leaving La Leche League GB (LLLGB) after a diktat from the global organisation elicited fears that volunteers would have to give advice to transgender women.

Directors at the charity’s British arm have already requested that the Charity Commission intervene over the inclusivity policy, which permits biological males to seek support from the organisation."

This may need a content warning, so be warned this link show males talking about the amazing electric charge they get from infants feeding from their nipples amongst other things.

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-breastfeed

This is an illuminating read and shows insight into the motivations for these male people who seek to do this.

What is very clear, is that this is NEVER about the child. This is never child centred. This is all about the male person's demands being met.

I think babies should only be given actual breast milk or formula. I feel awful that babies with no choice could be fed a chemically made substance and I'd worry that the long term impact isn't known. Surely the babies safety is the priority regardless of who the parent is. I couldnt breast feed and God knows I tried but feeding the baby with a bottle was still a bonding process and it can be for others.

It's actual child abuse.

Because “be kind” I believe.

and because humans really can change sex.

and because being male or female is more sort of a feeling, than cold hard facts….

Is anyone going to tell them men still have breasts? And can get breast cancer? FML.

I miss the days when people kept their squalid little fetishes behind closed doors. Good times.

How much longer will people support this me talk health issue...... You give and inch hen want it all.

But they're not being kind to women and they're not being kind to babies and they're not being kind to staff who object. So that can't be the answer.

Yep. This is why we can't have nice things, essentially.

I can’t get too angry about this.
If a woman (at birth) who considers herself non binary or trans has a baby and finds it easier to feed their baby if calling it chest feeding- I’m ok with that.
I think trans women (born male) should bottle feed as like many born women they can’t produce any or enough milk.

LLL don't agree and think that trans women should be supported to "breastfeed".

But the women don’t count, the babies can’t say anything, and most staff are women too. They don’t count.

But you must Be Kind to the mens! They’re the ones that count!

In plain sight.
Endorsed by activists.
Abusive to babies.

Yeah, but they're being kind to men, which is what's important, eh?

Exactly this!! You're gonna go through all that trauma in your life, be brave enough to come out as Trans... but the word breastfeeding will send you over the edge? Absolutely not!

How many trans people even agree/care about this change of wording? I'm sure they aren't even fussed about it and the ones that are... well. I'll leave that unsaid.

"Hello... social services....yes I'd like to make a complaint please."

WHAT ON EARTH.

Even the phrase chestfeeding gives me the rage. It's so twee.

Exactly. It's pandering to men, not being kind. It's facilitating fetishists at the expense of everyone else.

Pandering to men is not being kind, especially when babies are involved. Giving Savile a key to the children's ward wasn't being kind. That's just the way it's packaged.