Heard the one about Racist Dogs in Wales

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Been trying to copy links from the Telegraph and various other news outlets but failing miserably with my phone so any help much appreciated.

Anyway, it seems the Welsh Labour government are trying to create dog free zones to make Wales less racist or something along those lines.
The more I read it, the less sense it makes. Not that it made any sense to begin with.
Any Welsh mumsnetters with racist dogs?
Could you send your dog on a course to be less racist like we have to in our places of work.

@Nellieinthebarn

Well said.
It is virtue signalling.
I am sure the Welsh government is run by adults so why they can't use common sense and honesty is beyond me.

Understandable, the average chihuahua is fundamentally the densest concentration of pure evil in the known universe.

This is the Daily Fail stirring up needless antagonism. The report was looking at ways to make outdoor spaces more inclusive. A woman stated that she didn't like dogs and didn't feel safe around dogs. Lots of people feel like this and would welcome dog-free areas (these already exist by the way - lots of places have dog-free beaches or dog-free parks).

Daily mail is implying that the woman not liking dogs is due to her race, rather than her personal preferences regarding dogs. What a ridiculous article. Can a black woman not have an opinion? She answered a question about what she didn't like about public spaces. "I don't like dogs" is not the same as "on behalf of all black people everywhere, we don't like dogs and want them banned from the Welsh hillsides"!

In deed. And as a responsible dog owner, I never bring my dogs to the door for any delivery person - so they always are secured.

And it’s only the Asian drivers who make the request and who I have to reassure when I open the door that they are not there as they hover 6-10m down the drive and refuse to come to my door to make their delivery. Most of the other drivers, when I mentioned that we have secured any dogs they may have heard barking, simply ask what breed I have, mentioned that they love dogs and would have happily met them.

Perhaps they should advise we have equal numbers of black and white sheep for you know... equality. Liberal wankery!

You need to read the article. It's the Welsh government suggesting this to make the countryside less racist. Not the Daily Mail

I would have expected the said paper/tabloid to be complaining about Welsh names being adopted such as Eryri for the area around Llanberis.

What does that have to do with Welsh Labour and their bonkers idea that dog free areas will make Wales racist free by 2030

CranfordScones
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The first report on this topic said 'The countryside is racist' we must change it blah blah

A small group of activists made this suggestion, among others, to the Welsh government. There is no suggestion that it is going to be taken further. Check your sources!

If they want to diversify the Welsh countryside, start with the sheep.

The problem with amplifying these ridiculous little bits of click bait is that they very quickly become fact in the minds of the hard of thinking and hand ammunition to racists. Soon it will have turned into "immigrants eat dogs" when it started out in a perfectly sensible attempt to find out why minority groups are less likely to access green spaces.

I can only think this has been made up to cause division. Anybody who is actually racist will jump on this much like the 'cwnt say Christmas anymore' nonsense that was pedelled a few years ago.

Banning dogs from certain spaces is a waste of time, electric bikes, mopeds and dirt bikes are banned from parks near me they are still there daily. The type of people who own problem dogs won't care at all about an unenforceable ban, you just remove safe sane normal people from those parks.

The whole concept is fucking stupid.

I live in Wales. Don't think the WG wouldn't be daft enough to do this.

@Anotherparkingthread "I can only think this has been made up to cause division.

Yep. As can be seen on this thread. So depressing.

I have and love dogs (and am white) and totally get this - as a pp said - not all dogs but at least 2 of mine have been noticeably racist - very hard to train out of them as you can’t very well (and wouldn’t dream of) asking a black person to be your stooge. Also extremely embarrassing, and totally shit for whatever person is the other end - mine have only been barking etc.. (rather than biting) but horrible still - and unacceptable. I’ve also definitely met people who are non-white who are terrified of dogs and have (at least in part) explained it as part of a cultural difference. I think dog free zones are a good idea. All sorts of people are scared of dogs and they should know they can go out without having to deal with that all the time, or explain themselves.

IMHO, saying African people hate dogs because ONE African person said they don't like dogs is racist, because its taking the opinion of one person and applying it to everyone in that group.

Exactly- sheep are a classic example of "white supremacy in black face".

Besides how many black sheep do you ever see in Wales. The farmers need to go on more DEI training that's for sure!

I did read the article. It is the article misinterpreting a few unrelated quotations and stirring it into something it isn't. My take on the article is that the welsh government is saying "let's look at ways to make open spaces more accessible to all. What are the current barriers?" One respondent says she doesn't like areas with lots of dogs. Daily Mail says the woman who says this is a Black woman, therefore the reason must be race related. She wasn't asked "what prevents black people from going on Wesh hillsides, she was asked what were her personal barriers.

If someone said areas with handrails on steps or paved paths would be useful for elderly people, wheelchair users or people with buggies, you can objectively see how having those things might make an area more inclusive. The question is how to get more people outside and this one comment she made about dogs has been extrapolated by the person who wrote the article to be related to race, rather than to inclusion, because she is black.

https://www.gov.wales/anti-racist-wales-evidence-report-climate-cymru-bame-html

This gives the background and who did the report what methodology they used and what they concluded and what they recommend.

I think most parks should be dog free. Encourage people to get out and exercise a bit more.

Are you from the 80s?

from Gransnet
According to a report submitted by Climate Cymru BAME, an environmental group, dog-free zones should be created in the country’s green spaces to make the outdoors more inclusive of minorities . The reason for this is not elaborated on in the report, which will be used by the Welsh Government to “support policy teams developing and implementing” anti-racist plans for rural Wales.

What @Flumoxed said.