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To think this is an unacceptable wage?

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:41

I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

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Br1ll1ant · 14/11/2024 09:45

Isn’t that £16 a hour after tax? That’s not bad, especially with no responsibilities outside of the hours.

Schnauzersaremyheros · 14/11/2024 09:46

That works out to be £16 per hour. Is that before tax?

goodnessidontknow · 14/11/2024 09:46

That works out equivalent to about £45k in a full time permanent role so not amazing but not awful either.

Catza · 14/11/2024 09:46

Net? Yes, that's a good wage for public sector.
I am NHS Band 7 and get £119 net for 7.5h of work.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:52

I don't think £16 ph is acceptable tbh. 4 years at uni, degree and PGCE, 21 years of teaching.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:53

@goodnessidontknow Not sure that's correct.

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Namechangefordaughterevasion · 14/11/2024 09:54

Seems fair.

Catza · 14/11/2024 09:55

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:52

I don't think £16 ph is acceptable tbh. 4 years at uni, degree and PGCE, 21 years of teaching.

Then you either need to join your union to campaign for a better wage or you need to rethink your career. None of us, public sector workers, are swimming in money. Our salaries are not especially high and it's true that many of us think this is "unacceptable". But what you earned here is in line with the current pay structure and I am not sure there is much sympathy for PS workers at the moment to hope this will change.

Catza · 14/11/2024 09:58

goodnessidontknow · 14/11/2024 09:46

That works out equivalent to about £45k in a full time permanent role so not amazing but not awful either.

Assuming there is no pension contributions or student loan repayments, it works out at about 35,5k

WaitingForMojo · 14/11/2024 09:58

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:52

I don't think £16 ph is acceptable tbh. 4 years at uni, degree and PGCE, 21 years of teaching.

You should try working in law!

I think it’s very decent.

Biffingtonclyro · 14/11/2024 09:58

Seems fair

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:59

@WaitingForMojo What is your role in law may I ask and what do you earn ph?

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WhoWhereWhatWhy · 14/11/2024 10:00

Are you going through an agency? As the agency will take a cut/fee before the money gets to you.

Describing the salary in net terms doesn’t help, as there are so many deductions - tax, NI etc. It makes it hard to compare against other teachers’ salaries and across sectors.

That said, I do think teachers generally should be paid more and have better teaching conditions.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 10:00

Around £5 ph over minimum wage is decent? Really? For a qualified professional?

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Biffingtonclyro · 14/11/2024 10:01

For a job with no responsibility outside of your core hours, yes.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 10:01

@Catza May I ask your profession and how long you've been in the job?

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dammit88 · 14/11/2024 10:02

What was the gross pay?

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 10:03

£140 @dammit88

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dammit88 · 14/11/2024 10:03

Net it is would be £560 a week. So probably take home around 2520 a month based on 4.5 weeks.. That's alright?

Biffingtonclyro · 14/11/2024 10:04

So a £42k salary. That's very good.

Pippa246 · 14/11/2024 10:04

I’m NHS and similar. Qualified more than 30 years and multiple additional qualifications. Got totally burnt out and took early retirement and now work zero hours for the bottom band 5 rate - but I’m happy! No real stress, no checking emails when I’m off, just clock in and click out.

presumably you knew the hourly rate when you took the job?

BalladOfBarry · 14/11/2024 10:04

As a qualified professional, you would have been aware of the hourly rate when you accepted the job, surely?
Perhaps you will be due a taxi refund?

showersandflowers · 14/11/2024 10:05

Biffingtonclyro · 14/11/2024 10:01

For a job with no responsibility outside of your core hours, yes.

I agree with this. It's casual work (yes, in your case you're very experienced but it's still casual work). When I worked a supply job to get £16 a hour I had to work Christmas Day or night shift!!!

coffeesaveslives · 14/11/2024 10:05

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 10:00

Around £5 ph over minimum wage is decent? Really? For a qualified professional?

But you're not working as a full-time professional, you're doing supply so you don't have the same stress and responsibility as a permanent teacher.

£16 an hour to do a seven hour day with a
3.30 finish isn't exactly a pittance.

Catza · 14/11/2024 10:05

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 10:01

@Catza May I ask your profession and how long you've been in the job?

As I mentioned above, I work for the NHS at band 7 salary. I have two degrees including post-reg masters, multiple additional certifications and work as a highly specialist clinician. NHS pay scales are freely available online for your perusal.

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