To think my friend should not use her tumble dryer on lovely warm dry days.

[josta]

My friend is lovely, she's supportive, considerate and fun to be around, but one thing that I cannot agree with is the fact that she uses her tumble dryer 365 days a year.

It's on most of the day. She says she uses it to cut down on ironing. I have tried to pursuade her to hang it outside on many occasions but she just laughs it off. I think the more I mention it the more she digs her heels in.

I know it's none of my business but it bugs me, that she can be so ignorant about it.

Would it annoy anyone else, or is the problem mine?

It can't be - it uses electricity anyway, the same as a drier does and what I'm saying is that I use a drier but not a dishwasher. Therefore I am even with a dishwasher/no tumbler household! ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I don't use mine except to finish off towels and jeans so they're not crunchy or if the washing gets wet on the line.

But on a day like this? Nah.

I prefer line dried and even plan the washing so I can peg out first thing in the morning.

But YABU.

Not everyone lives the way someone else does.

I don't have a dishwasher, either, as we live in rented accommodation, but apparently it saves more water than washing by hand, so I'd love to have one.

I don't have a dishwasher.

well, surely that depends if you fill the sink with water first and do the lot in that (like I do), or you keep the tap running throughout...

Why finish off your jeans etc... in the dryer? Just iron them and they won't be crunchy anymore! Or once they're on, all the 'crunch' goes out of them!

OMG, why would you keep the tap running?! No, I half fill it with water and wash everything in that. That can't be more water than a dishwasher uses and it doesn't use any electricity.

I need convincing on this one

Gobbledigook - as far as I'm aware (and my eco-warrier husband I'm sure has researched this to death!), dishwashers use WAY less water than washing up by hand.

He refused point-blank to have one until he'd looked it all up.

We let our dishes air-dry so no extra electricity costs really.

FAQ - no dryer here, 2 adults, 2 LOs AND cloth nappies [horrid shoot-me boasting emoticon]! AND 2 full-time WOHs...

Oh God, I don't have time to iron. Tumbling clothes removes the need for ironing.

See, I am quite saintly really!

So a dishwasher run uses less than half a sink of water?

i don't own an iron, bergen.

that's why.

our tumble drier was given to us by MIL when we were both working swapping shifts and lived in a pokey flat with two kids and no outdoor space.

i do use it more if we have a D&V bug - we don't have many towels or sheets so it's nice to have in a pinch when you need to turn those round quickly.

Ok, so most of you think I'm being unreasonable, I did ask your opinion, thats fine.

I won't bring it up with her again.

Blimey, did you actually mention it to her?! Ha ha!

[starts looking for stats]

Yeah, I'm with G.gook.... how on earth can a dishwater use less water than that?

We are both very saintly Gobbledigook!! And, I forgive you for the tumbledryer...

DOn't forget, you need to balance water use vs electricity use I'm not using any leccy to run my half a sink of water!

Our dishwasher only uses 13 litres of water on the eco programme. I switch it on about 5-6 times per week. Yes of course it uses electricity, but unless Gobbledigook washes up in cold water, she (or he) is heating up water with either gas or electricity anyway.

To wash up hygienically in hot water (and possibly rinse as well but after the last thread we had on that I won't go there, I bet it uses more than 13 litres of water. My d/washer holds around 3-4 meal's worth of plates etc, this would need more than one sink of hot water to wash hygienically. (imo obviously).

un-useable califrau? Your delicate skin is just too accustomed to the fluffy, fabric-softenered stuff.....

'It had an elephant's trunk that you had to attach to the front and then feed out of a door ' - ROFL!

no, bergen, the sun is really really strong up there.

it will bleach the hell out of your clothes.

I doubt my sink holds 13 litres of water.

I wash it all in the sink and I don't rinse it under any water. I've survived 35 years wtih that method.

p.s. I looked that up in the handbook, in case anyone is interested in the source of my statistic!

And anyway, you only get about 2 hours of sunshine all summer where I live so line drying is a no-no. I did used to do it but what a ball-ache when it pees down all over it while you are out...