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Sara Sharif case - update - horrifying

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amIloud · 13/11/2024 12:21

This case is just beyond the realms of horrifying,

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl461xwg3do

This poor child.

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ContactNightmare · 11/12/2024 14:12

Or consider signing this. No child should be handed over like a piece of meat to an abuser on the say so of a family court system that is just tick box exercise.

takeaction.womensaid.org.uk/melaniebrownpetition

oakleaffy · 11/12/2024 14:14

Lifeomars · 11/12/2024 14:03

I have just seen this news on the Guardian website and there are some more photos of Sara, poor dear girl, she never stood a chance and had a short life of hell. Sentencing is next Tuesday, judge has already acknowledged the horrendous task that faced the jury who had to hear and see the evidence of what those beasts did to that defenceless child

Many will be in tears reading and hearing of what happened to a sweet and innocent child.
Children are powerless against the violence of adults.
It's beyond appalling.

An hideous violent 'family' even before Sara was born {News happening now}.

ContactNightmare · 11/12/2024 14:17

If the Labour Party care about violence to women and children they will get on and make some change. Enough soapboxing from me.

I hope for long sentences for these depraved people.

oakleaffy · 11/12/2024 14:26

ContactNightmare · 11/12/2024 14:17

If the Labour Party care about violence to women and children they will get on and make some change. Enough soapboxing from me.

I hope for long sentences for these depraved people.

One hopes for at least 30 years.
Absolute brutes.

The cowards who beat , tortured and murdered her were crying in court..for themselves.

Home educated children are at a huge risk, as it is often schools who raise concern to social workers- except in Sara's case it didn't save her.
A good, caring foster home should have been her permanent placement.

Not being returned to those evil bastards.

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:30

Just how could he get custody? Evil bastard, that poor little girl. Her old headteacher was in tears

Inkyblue123 · 11/12/2024 14:31

He is a monster and should have been convicted a long time ago and then deported. It sickens me that men like this are allowed to repeatedly cause harm to women and children . His wife is just as bad, she knew all along what was going on. They only returned from Pakistan becouse they would have faced the death penalty there.

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:32

Surely the the school could have seen bruising when Sara changed for PE.

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:36

@derxa school reported and then they took her out to be homeschooled

Lifeomars · 11/12/2024 14:52

I hope they both get whole-life tariffs and never see the outside world again. They took a young life in the most grotesque way and Sara must never have known a day without fear and pain. I wish the same for the creatures that did this to her.

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:54

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:36

@derxa school reported and then they took her out to be homeschooled

I know but Baby P had a broken back and no one examined him. So little common sense

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:55

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:36

@derxa school reported and then they took her out to be homeschooled

They didn’t do enough. Go the extra mile

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:56

@derxa reading the news report, school reported it but social services said there wasn’t anything to worry about 😔

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:57

Schools report to authorities so they can investigate

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:57

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:56

@derxa reading the news report, school reported it but social services said there wasn’t anything to worry about 😔

So many stupid people

oakleaffy · 11/12/2024 15:01

Inkyblue123 · 11/12/2024 14:31

He is a monster and should have been convicted a long time ago and then deported. It sickens me that men like this are allowed to repeatedly cause harm to women and children . His wife is just as bad, she knew all along what was going on. They only returned from Pakistan becouse they would have faced the death penalty there.

Sara’s mother seemed to go from violent man to violent man-
Do women not realise being alone is far preferable to being brutalised?

Especially when a child is involved.
To lose a child because one wants to stay with a brutal man is crazy.

Poor Sara never stood a chance.
No one was on her side, defending and protecting her.

oakleaffy · 11/12/2024 15:04

Also,brutalised children tend not to “tell” about their abuse as they are too afraid to, because of further repercussions.

ContactNightmare · 11/12/2024 15:16

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:32

Surely the the school could have seen bruising when Sara changed for PE.

Do you know they don’t do much ime. A lot of latitude given by staff. God knows how many marks were not reported.

Meemeows · 11/12/2024 15:35

Yes. The family court is an abusers charter. Do a course, tick a box, boom then not abusive. Some foolish person who has every incentive to say yes. How many of these men “fail” the course?

You can’t fail except not to turn up. If you are a sadist who enjoys beating up little girls you will definitely turn up.

Someone, somewhere, is making a lot of money from these courses and a lot of children are let down. Some hurt or killed. It should stop.

It is a disgrace. Every time one of these horrific cases comes to light we are told "lessons will be learned". It is extremely obvious that the current social services system and family court system does not protect children. This is a proven fact. Yet no changes are made.

The idea that a "course" turn an abuser into an adequate parent is laughable. There is no evidence whatsoever to support this and plenty to the contrary.

Any instance of abuse should immediately mean that someone is prohibited from living in the same house as a child for the rest of their life. Children must be removed the first time it happens. Zero tolerance. Family courts are completely corrupt and repeatedly prioritise the "rights" of abusive adults over their victims, even when the victims are children.

The care systems in other countries such as Denmark show that with proper funding, stable staff in small children's homes so that children can recover properly and form bonds of trust with their new carers and access appropriate therapy and support, children in care can achieve the same average outcomes as those living with families, despite their trauma.

It is a choice in the UK not to do this and to continue to abandon endless children to abuse. We hear only about a tiny, tiny proportion of them. It is a shame on our country that we don't protect the most vulnerable members of society, and it is shameful that funding for functioning children's services never features anywhere in the top ten voter priorities reported in politicial polls. There is an outpouring when yet another entirely predictable incident is reported yet who is pressuring politicians to DO SOMETHING about it? It should be the highest priority in our funding list.

namechange1975 · 11/12/2024 15:38

Yes the school reported their concerns on many occasions but the council and social services didn't take it any further. Once she was being home schooled the school couldn't do anything it was upto social services who once again have let an innocent child die.

LilacBiscuit · 11/12/2024 15:38

Lifeomars · 11/12/2024 14:52

I hope they both get whole-life tariffs and never see the outside world again. They took a young life in the most grotesque way and Sara must never have known a day without fear and pain. I wish the same for the creatures that did this to her.

I came on here to make the same point. I would like both the father and step mother to get whole life sentences and the uncle at least 20 years. The step mother in particular refusing to go into witness box or to provide dental impressions to compare with teeth marks does not deserve any reduction in sentence from the maximum. I also hope they have a horrible time in prison.

NewGreenDuck · 11/12/2024 15:39

Father and stepmother found guilty of murder. Uncle guilty of causing or allowing the death of a child. I hope now justice is done. They should never be released. None of them.
RIP Sara.

ARichtGoodDram · 11/12/2024 15:41

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:32

Surely the the school could have seen bruising when Sara changed for PE.

They did report it and nothing was done.

However, many many schools now have the children coming to school in PE kit on PE days. That’s one post-Covid change that has removed one chance of spotting issues from schools.

ARichtGoodDram · 11/12/2024 15:44

derxa · 11/12/2024 14:55

They didn’t do enough. Go the extra mile

What, realistically, do you think the school should have done?

From all report this school did everything right. In fact it’s likely their reports that led to the decision to homeschool.

If they pass it to the right people and nothing is done what more do you think they can do?

This always comes up on threads like this, yet if a Mn’etter posts that the school have asked questions or raised issues they’re told, robustly, that it’s nothing to do with the school. Schools can’t win. On this occasion they flagged the issues multiple times. What else can they do?

RailwayCutting · 11/12/2024 15:50

Yes, that's why we have social services. Teachers can't visit families and remove children. That would be illegal. They report to social services and social services are supposed to protect children.

MsNeis · 11/12/2024 16:11

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/11/2024 13:01

I really don’t think ordinary members of the public should have to sit on Jury on cases as horrific has this. They’re not trained or equipped to cope with it. If I was called for Jury over anything to do with child unaliving and or abuse. I’d have to get a Doctors note to excuse me. There’s no way I could sit through anything like that. I’d either have a complete breakdown or I’d personally go for the monster and end up behind bars myself.

I've always thought this, yes, same here

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