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To be confused why DIL has suddenly changed in how she treats me

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helpamilout · 12/11/2024 20:23

My son is in his mid-30s and has been with his wife for nearly a decade. They dated for 3-4 years before getting married. When they were dating, she was lovely—chatty, friendly and extremely polite, almost overly so, often saying things like, “Do you mind if I use your bathroom?” or “Thank you very much” for even small gestures.

After they got engaged, everything still seemed fine. But a couple of weeks before the wedding, they told us she was six weeks pregnant, and that’s when things began to change. She became more private and somewhat secretive about the pregnancy (which is of course her right—it was just very different from how she had been before). She was quieter in conversations and didn’t reach out to us as much as she used to. I don’t believe we did anything to cause this; we avoided giving unsolicited advice and tried to be supportive. The only thing I can think of is that I once mentioned C-sections having longer recovery times when she shared she was considering it, but that seems minor.

We also expressed that we were very excited to meet the baby, though we didn’t pressure them with specific timing. We ended up meeting our grandchild when they were one month old, while her mom met the baby in the hospital and her dad when the baby was just three days old. When she was pregnant with their second, they didn’t tell us until she was 20 weeks along, even though it seemed her close friends already knew.

They never ask us to babysit but often ask her parents. They visit her parents once a month, but they only come to see us once or twice a year, despite us living the same distance away (a couple of hours, though in the opposite direction). I do see them a bit more often because I go to visit them, but they never invite me to stay overnight, whereas her mom often stays with them.

It’s perhaps worth noting that my daughter-in-law is a stay-at-home mom, and my son works long hours, sometimes on weekends. While arranging visits should ideally be a joint effort, it often falls on her since my son can’t really insist on her seeing us when he isn’t around. My son does make an effort to plan visits with us when he’s off work, but when I do visit, she seems distant and disengaged. I’ve heard her mention that the drive to us is “far,” yet she drives the same distance to her parents regularly. During visits, she often seems uninterested and sometimes responds quite shortly. For instance, when I asked how long the baby typically naps, she just shrugged and said, “Depends.” And when I brought a homemade banana cake for everyone to share, she laughed and said he doesn’t like bananas anymore.

I’m confused what has caused this. I’ve asked my son but he says everything is fine. Should I ask her? If so, how? Can MNers see what I’ve made done wrong or help me guess?

OP posts:
crazyspanner · 20/11/2024 18:30

None of us can know the ins and outs from either side as we are not in their lives. We can only give advice based on info provided.

I do wonder though if some people would be giving the same advice if this post was a husband was saying that a woman couldn't take her children to see her family without him and he wasn't prepared to go. That if she wanted her newborn to meet her family that she had to argue for it when all his family had been round. If he had his family to stay but didn't allow hers.

CrazyGoatLady · 20/11/2024 18:42

Next update, DIL's reaction will be to boot the DS out into his new flat and he can share it with his parents!

I'm guessing the DS entirely siding with his mother probably says something about where the marriage may be headed 👀

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 20/11/2024 18:44

Why are people still positing like this is real? It's pretty obvious that this is fiction. There is no way OP's fictional son would have reacted the way he has.

MaggieMcGill · 20/11/2024 18:46

crazyspanner · 20/11/2024 18:30

None of us can know the ins and outs from either side as we are not in their lives. We can only give advice based on info provided.

I do wonder though if some people would be giving the same advice if this post was a husband was saying that a woman couldn't take her children to see her family without him and he wasn't prepared to go. That if she wanted her newborn to meet her family that she had to argue for it when all his family had been round. If he had his family to stay but didn't allow hers.

👏👏I think it’s safe to say here that the advice would be to LTB, he’s controlling you.

NoisyDenimShaker · 20/11/2024 19:19

crazyspanner · 20/11/2024 18:30

None of us can know the ins and outs from either side as we are not in their lives. We can only give advice based on info provided.

I do wonder though if some people would be giving the same advice if this post was a husband was saying that a woman couldn't take her children to see her family without him and he wasn't prepared to go. That if she wanted her newborn to meet her family that she had to argue for it when all his family had been round. If he had his family to stay but didn't allow hers.

Exactly. One hundred percent.

Vegandiva · 20/11/2024 21:47

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 20/11/2024 18:44

Why are people still positing like this is real? It's pretty obvious that this is fiction. There is no way OP's fictional son would have reacted the way he has.

@MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption I’m thinking for the same reason people will post really long posts on forums about tv series analysing the character’s behaviour as if they were also real people 😁

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 20/11/2024 22:09

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 20/11/2024 16:05

The penny has dropped. It's fiction.

Yep. My thought when I read the update. Or at least the outcome of the dinner is fiction even if the rest is true. Surely.

Anxioustealady · 20/11/2024 22:20

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 20/11/2024 22:09

Yep. My thought when I read the update. Or at least the outcome of the dinner is fiction even if the rest is true. Surely.

Edited

I hope you're right lol

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 20/11/2024 22:23

Anxioustealady · 20/11/2024 22:20

I hope you're right lol

Got to be. It’s too absurd. 🤣

The offer in itself is off the wall. But MiL cheerfully accepting it is other level.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 20/11/2024 22:28

Yes, they fucked the "update".

Lizzie67384 · 20/11/2024 23:13

WitcheryDivine · 12/11/2024 22:11

Random thought but do they know you’re interested in the kids? Do you think you’ve been so tactful that actually they think you’re not very keen to spend time with them? Sometimes with parents or in laws I think the phrasing is all “do you want me to babysit for you?” type thing which implies that you’re doing a favour whereas what the grandparent may mean is “I’d love to spend time with the kids! They are great.” Personally I’d rather my PIL said that rather than making me feel like they think I’m asking for help.

Oh come on, that is sensitive in the extreme 🤣 most people in the real world would be grateful someone offered to babysit their children

He11oKitty · 20/11/2024 23:24

helpamilout · 12/11/2024 21:48

If not too private, can you give me a few pointers as to what in her behaviour was difficult for you? Maybe I do some of those without realising?

I also wonder if it's an age thing, a generation thing, a personality thing.

For example, my mum once told me what with my SIL (brother's wife) she always tried to make her feel part of the family, in a way treated her more warmly than she did my brother. Ie if we all met for lunch she'd comment on how great SIL looked before she'd compliment my brother, if she was commenting on the children's good behaviour she'd often attribute it to SIL, if she made a cake it would often be SIL's favourite cake. I tried to do the same with my DIL, for example if a picture is sent I'll often say either something like "aww my favourite couple / favourite family" or "I love your dress, DIL!" But now I wonder if maybe that's overbearing or somehow too personal? Maybe outdated?

Honestly, as a DIL, no, this just sounds nice. OP, you sound nice.

It sounds like they are a busy couple and since she takes on her family commitments. Your son, understandably, being busy, is dropping the ball. I think you need to speak gently to your son, just say without any pressure that you feel less close than the other in-laws, miss your grandkids, and how can you become closer without burdening your DIL?

my husband also doesn’t organise as many visits for his mum and I sense her frustration, but I’ve told him repeatedly that’s on him to sort out. I sometime do step in and organise something just because I’m sad for her, but I hope she wouldn’t think it’s me who doesn’t want her to visit or something!

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 21/11/2024 00:10

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 20/11/2024 16:05

The penny has dropped. It's fiction.

This, they have already started looking at properties, okay 😂

Vlov · 21/11/2024 00:24

Ihopeyouhavent · 20/11/2024 17:42

This place is making me dreading having a DIL.

All i can offer is what i would do. I'd message, have a family group on whatsapp, reach out to DIL, keep the contact up. Send offers of babysitting, ask for photos invite them round etc. Ignore the people that say it should be your son organising, men are useless and expecting them to be any different is just stupid.

I dont have GC, but my relationship with a poss DIL fractured a few weeks ago, and i've taken the high ground and am trying to build the relationship up again. Its fcking hard work, but i adore my son and will keep working and trying.

You’re already planning on blaming dil for your son’s lack of ability to arrange meeting up? Maybe hold your son responsible for the relationship between you and him, and any subsequent children. Tread carefully, my mil complained at me about how little my dh rang her, compared to when he was with his ex(when he was late teens/uni so totally different life stage), so I stopped harassing him to do so and he pretty much stopped. My mil doesn’t like me she never has, now she’s older and alone she’s regretting that I think. She complained about it again to my dh how I don’t like/care about her, how I’ve made him not contact her etc, he told her the only time he ever contacted her was when I harassed him to. We don’t live close, but she comes and stays a few times a year for a week or so, but I carry on my routine

thepariscrimefiles · 21/11/2024 07:30

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 21/11/2024 00:10

This, they have already started looking at properties, okay 😂

She's probably looking at properties in Mayfair.

This should set the tone for responses to future threads by overbearing MILs, i.e. 'have you considered asking your son to buy you an expensive property a couple of tube stops away from your DIL so you can pop in unannounced every day?'.

Wellingtonspie · 21/11/2024 08:11

Three beds obviously for grandchild sleep overs. Concierge service and underground parking with gym and pool access? 😉

summersolsticesoon · 21/11/2024 08:28

In essence your Ds is going to invest around a million pounds in a flat for you to stay in a few days per month?
You are viewing properties and will have the final say on this huge investment.
FICTION.

CustardCreams2 · 21/11/2024 09:39

Are fictional posts made up on this thread to attract more users/views on mumsnet for their revenue? What is the purpose of if? Very annoying when you expect to be dealing with real people and not an imagined story.

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