If you have a cat you have to stop it scaring and eating birds

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Get a bell collar or something. Give the wildlife a chance. Can you train cats to leave birds alone?

You really are posting some uninformed nonsense.

I'm guessing larger homes (more expensive to heat/cool/light), use of aircon, larger engined vehicles + more mileage on average (because things are further away), probably different farming and food production practices mean higher co2 per capita, more flights (internal flights v common in the USA).

I'll try with mine too 😂

So if they're not threatening anything with extinction, then what's the issue? They do the same as eg magpies do when they attack small bird nests. Etc etc etc

Ours is too. That's what makes us scared to move even though we'd love to relocate to a less urban area; we couldn't bear to think that someone would cut all our trees down and rip everything out. So many trees already lost here but nobody seems to care.

And have done for centuries

This was kind of my point when I said that some people are all up in arms about birds being caught by cats, but are perfectly happy to have other species they feel less warm and fluffy about being kept under control.. worms, slow worms, mice, rats for example… but we must save the baby birds!

I bought my cat an extra loud bell for her collar

It didn't stop her catching loads of stuff.

I'd agree with that. I'm fed up of dogs with terrible recall

Cats have been native to this island for at minimum centuries... Forrest cats (the most common feral in the UK) came over as rat catchers with the Vikings. There where native wild cats here long before that too.

This isn't some brand new never seen before invasion to an isolated island, they are LITERALLY part of the countries delicately balanced ecosystem. Don't fuck with nature, its perfectly capable of handling itself and has for millennia.

Correct . A lot of dogs shouldn't be off the lead because of their poor recall. Twice in the last week I've been harassed by aggressive off-lead dogs while I was walking my puppy on the lead.

Cats aren’t native to Australia, so they have a point.

50 MILLION dead birds a year. They might not be going extinct but that's a pretty low bar to set

Yeah ok do all that and the bloody cat brings me a great big bird in alive mind this was years back but still. She was most offended when I took it off her.

It is thousands of years, not centuries.

They own armies of cats that they dress in armour and they fight in their feudal wars?

My cats no longer catch anything thank god. In the summer one of them spent the afternoon sunning himself on the deck whilst a crow and a pigeon enjoyed the bird food close by. I did explain to him that if he pissed off the corvid family I wouldn't save him when they tried to peck his pretty eyes out.

Ours seem to cohabit quite nicely with the local wildlife that bimbles around our garden.

My cat will not wear a collar. He pulls them off. Every single one we've tried on him has been lost with days. He doesn't really bring birds home though, it's more field mice 😩

50 million killed by their natural balanced predator vs. the 1.12 BILLION chickens slaughters for human consumption.

*within days

That’s called ‘anecdotal evidence’ and isn’t actual evidence of anything. Maybe look at some official reports and statistics, you’re wrong.

Human chicken consumption should really be a different thread.

You clearly missed the part that says 'at minimum' which then clearly refers to modern domesticated cats (still common) brought to the country vs. the almost extinct and extinct wild verities.

Why? I assume you eat meat… aren’t you then killing more animals than a cat in a year? And also contributing more the destruction of the land than a cat?

What are you personally going to do to stop the decimation of birds in the UK? Grow your own food? Stop eating meat?