Why has Welby not resigned?

[MrsSkylerWhite]

Along with the at least 6 bishops and providence knows however many others within the organisation who were aware of this evil man’s conduct.

Listening to him tie himself in knots, trying to distance/excuse his inaction is despicable.

Surely it goes beyond him resigning, it should now also be a police matter and Welby and the others who covered this up should be investigated.

Does make one wonder why so many seemed quite so keen to cover this up, doesn’t it? Call me cynical.

There are a couple of other threads about this:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5205612-to-be-so-angry-about-this

and here (this one on the Christian mumsnetter thread has a link to a Parliamentary Bill , which I think @HermioneWeasley asked about)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/christian-mumsnetters/5205330-archbishop-and-senior-clergy-covering-up-child-abuse-still

I don't understand either.

We've had cases of child abuse in the church I grew up in. The police got involved, the perpetrators were rightly convicted and sent to prison, and (in most cases, not all, I'm not going to pretend that church is perfect) procedures were changed to ensure it was less likely to happen again.

But when it happens in the Anglican - and indeed Catholic - church nothing is done except platitudes spoken. It is terrible.

The whole episode is revolting.

I misguidedly thought the CoE might show more compassion towards victims than the Catholic Church when it tried to cover up abuse by priests. But if anything this is worse. We all know the victims were sadistically abused. They have delayed investigating until after the perpetrator is dead despite knowing about the abuse for more than forty years. They even delayed after 2013 when there was still time to secure a conviction.

And this is just one case. If everyone involved in this one case in the 1980s thought it was best to try and cover up sadistic sexual abuse of teenage boys then we can guess that wherever other allegations were made similar cover ups took place.

Two archbishops were involved by the way. George Carey was sent the 1982 report on Smyth's behaviour but conveniently doesn't remember reading it.

Two archbishops were involved by the way. George Carey was sent the 1982 report on Smyth's behaviour but conveniently doesn't remember reading it“

Beyond belief. Unless of course such reports weren’t unusual.

He thinks he is above the rest of us and can do as he pleases.

Because it's the tip of the iceberg.

Welby has the look of a man who will 'consider' resigning till the end of time but somehow always find the particularly self-serving piety in himself to stay on.

Should've been a cardinal.

Do they have anglican cardinals?

Because they are all utterly disgraceful. And they look after their own.

The head of Church would have to have more spine....

A certain northern Irish MPs wife is currently facing charges of aiding and abetting CSA. I would think these clergy could and should face similar if there is enough evidence ?

Eh on earth would he resign? Nobody is going to make him. So he's not going to. Another entitled Etonian knobber.

More awful people simply getting away with their true awfulness.

Why on earth I meant

Why would Charles sack him even if it was possible?

Last time he was involved with clerical paedophilia - that we know about, that is - he did his very best to support the offender, and when officially criticised claimed he didn't understand the implications of the conviction

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/11/justin-welby-under-growing-pressure-to-resign-over-serial-abuser

It seems like there is more pressure being put on him to resign.

I really don't understand how he think he can remain in post...

He doesn't seem like a very good person and he has no place in a position of moral authority.

He will hopefully eventually be forced to resign, but I don't believe he will ever have a genuine 'change of heart'.

There is a petition on change.org calling for his resignation. I would post a link but that's not allowed as I've just discovered. Personally, I'd like to see him prosecuted too.

You can put the petition link on the Petitions and Activism board.
The reason for this MN rule is to prevent bots spamming boards with links, I think.

Afaik it's ok to then link to that thread from others.

Thank you, HisNibs.

Thanks for that tip. I appreciate that :-)

I have no idea. I listened to his 'explanation' and couldn't see any mitigating factors. He knew the man was an active CSA predator and he did nothing.

He should resign immediately and spend the rest of his life apologising to the victims he had the chance to protect but didn't.

I'm was baptised and confirmed into the Church of England as a child, yet I wouldn't let any of them within a country mile of my child, if this is their view of CSR.

Until Welby resigns they are all, without exception, as bad as each other. Disgusting !!

Does the/any church/religion have a reputation anymore, there seems to be scandals with all of them at one time or another

I give you ... Justin Welby's job description. He is failing at it.

How can the Church help to give a voice to people who are easily ignored by the powerful? How can Christians and others make a difference in their local communities and to the society we live in as a nation? What's most important in life and what does Christianity have to say about the big questions we all face?
The Archbishop of Canterbury's ministry in the church, his role in parliament as one of the Lords Spiritual, and his place in public life, give him opportunities to see what others are doing in answer to these questions and to take part in public debate about the issues behind them. That might be through visiting schools and talking to the pupils and staff, through speaking in the House of Lords or writing for the press,* *or by spending time with clients, volunteers and staff at projects working to make a difference to the lives of those in need around the country.