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16 month old assaulted should i have expected more support from the police?

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Absc · 10/11/2024 00:56

Feeling shaken up tonight a drunk person hit me, pushed my 3 year old over and my 16 month old who was in his pram she pushed the pram over i couldn't do anything to stop it happening. He did hit his head on the floor.

We have spent four hours at hospital who have said they don't think he has any significant head injuries. He has pre existing conditions that mean any head injuries have to be seen in a&e as he has false signs already for a bleed in brain etc so signs to look for concern are already there on him. At five months old he had an emergency mri with drs thinking he had a bleed on the brain.

This was at a family event. The attack was by a completely unknown person who doesn't live in the village. It took the police 33 minutes to attend. The dispatcher said they were coming from the local station 4 minutes away. By this point the woman had now disappeared. She had made further threats of harm - she had told people apparently we were pushing in and that's why she turned around and hit me then went for my children. We were in fact trying to find my son's friend who had walked off and with 400 people there it was difficult to see. The organisers were in the main area where we were heading to ask for assistance.

I don't know if i'm in the wrong but i feel very let down by the police not attending until too late, they said that they would have no chance of trying to find the person now and would only look if someone had significant injury. To me this is clearly a very volatile person and this happened to us they could well do this again. They said they would call in a few days time to check the child has no further injuries. My other child was literally telling the police that he had been pushed over by a lady and that she had chucked a drink at him. Police response we don't need or want to speak to the child.

Or is this now what society has turned into and is it normal to go to family events and have aggressive people / drunk people at 6pm in the evening.

OP posts:
laraitopbanana · 11/11/2024 18:27

Hi op,

I am so sorry this happened to you and your kid. You must be in chock. I hope you feel a little better over the next days.

Good evening 🌺

Dibbydoos · 11/11/2024 18:34

Someone knows her, put a post on the local FB group and ask for witnesses.

Good luck. She def is unhinged to attack babies is disgusting.

ADRV · 11/11/2024 18:45

Can’t even believe what I’ve just read. I’m so sorry this happened to you - seriously, I would have gone absolutely crazy. You need to make a complaint to the police. It’s a very serious matter.

ADRV · 11/11/2024 18:45

I agree!

ADRV · 11/11/2024 18:46

I would have done the same as Fedupmum - no doubt in my mind.

oakleaffy · 11/11/2024 19:05

@Absc I follow certain Urban exploration people on you tube and what is really noticeable is the amount of old asylums and mental hospitals that there used to be in every part of the UK. -

There is now almost no provision for dangerous and aggressive people , who are free to wander randomly at will, off meds, and hurt children.

I'm sorry this happened.

Once, on a Tube, DS at around 3 yrs old was pushed over on purpose by a deranged man, and everyone was too nervous to intervene.

Adults who target children like this are vile.

Landloper · 11/11/2024 19:10

Absc · 10/11/2024 00:56

Feeling shaken up tonight a drunk person hit me, pushed my 3 year old over and my 16 month old who was in his pram she pushed the pram over i couldn't do anything to stop it happening. He did hit his head on the floor.

We have spent four hours at hospital who have said they don't think he has any significant head injuries. He has pre existing conditions that mean any head injuries have to be seen in a&e as he has false signs already for a bleed in brain etc so signs to look for concern are already there on him. At five months old he had an emergency mri with drs thinking he had a bleed on the brain.

This was at a family event. The attack was by a completely unknown person who doesn't live in the village. It took the police 33 minutes to attend. The dispatcher said they were coming from the local station 4 minutes away. By this point the woman had now disappeared. She had made further threats of harm - she had told people apparently we were pushing in and that's why she turned around and hit me then went for my children. We were in fact trying to find my son's friend who had walked off and with 400 people there it was difficult to see. The organisers were in the main area where we were heading to ask for assistance.

I don't know if i'm in the wrong but i feel very let down by the police not attending until too late, they said that they would have no chance of trying to find the person now and would only look if someone had significant injury. To me this is clearly a very volatile person and this happened to us they could well do this again. They said they would call in a few days time to check the child has no further injuries. My other child was literally telling the police that he had been pushed over by a lady and that she had chucked a drink at him. Police response we don't need or want to speak to the child.

Or is this now what society has turned into and is it normal to go to family events and have aggressive people / drunk people at 6pm in the evening.

Sorry to read of your experience. The woman's conduct was totally unacceptable and you are entitled to expect maximum support from the police while they pursue this matter. That an adult thought nothing of attacking a mother in front of her children is bad enough, but then to target the 3 y.o. and 16 month old themeselves is unbelieveable. Clearly the individual constitutes a threat to children in general, and the police need to identify her, apprehend her, charge her.

oakleaffy · 11/11/2024 19:33

@Landloper This deranged woman who attacks children probably has ''Previous'' history of hurting them- To approach children in public to do this is very concerning.

Hopefully she will be identified.

oakleaffy · 11/11/2024 19:43

Reserved101 · 10/11/2024 03:26

Geez, I googled for that and there have been loads of instances of random attacks on babies in Austalia in recent years, and the one who has life changing injuries from having hot coffee poured over him.

So many scumbags around.

My Goodness- What a monster. Seen here:

Still on the run.

Hmm1234 · 12/11/2024 07:13

This sounds like something that needs to go in the village Facebook group. See if anyone knows the culprits. Name and Shane

eastegg · 12/11/2024 10:29

FedupMum2024 · 10/11/2024 02:03

If anybody, man or woman, drunk or sober, had deliberately pushed my pram over with my 16 month old baby in it there would have been no need for police attendance,
I would have personally dealt with them myself in the most illegal way possible.
this would have been instinctive I am afraid.
I just cannot believe that you and all the other onlookers allowed this vicious evil animal to just walk away from this.

If your instincts are to go after the perpetrator and commit a retaliatory offence against them, leaving your tiny children who have just been hit and tipped out of a pram, then your instincts are utterly shit. There would be no way to ‘personally deal with them’ that would be safe for the children.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/11/2024 11:06

10 or 15 years ago there was an incident in my area. A man was pushing a pushchair and another man, possibly a bit drunk idk, stumbled and nudged the pushchair. The man with the pushchair retaliated as suggested by some posters here and with an 'unlucky' punch killed the other man. He was arrested, charged with manslaughter and went to prison. His wife and children had to flee the area the same day for shame and fear of reprisals. Think on as they say round here.

LemonPeonies · 12/11/2024 11:29

Absc · 10/11/2024 03:12

My focus was on taking my children to safety and making sure they were ok as they were very distressed and i was in shock. A man did get hold of the woman to stop her but he was with her.

I would never let my children see violence or see me ever harm anyone and i also would never in retrospect risk losing my professional registration or not be able to work to provide for my children.

I don't know how people reacted after as i had literally gone into a private area that no one could get into without permission to enable me to check my children were ok and comfort them.

I agree with this and everyone would react differently I'm sure. Luckily I've been trained in safe restraint in my job so could handle it in a non violent way and restraint her til the police came but understand you just wanted to keep your children safe at the time. She sounds unhinged.

Absc · 30/11/2024 17:16

Just to say the police have now done a public appeal via crime watch to try and find the woman. Also council are investigating the licences as it was only given licence for small village event for the local families.

OP posts:
RedHelenB · 30/11/2024 19:44

Absc · 30/11/2024 17:16

Just to say the police have now done a public appeal via crime watch to try and find the woman. Also council are investigating the licences as it was only given licence for small village event for the local families.

Hope she's found OP.

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