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To believe that people should stop expecting special treatment for “food preferences” (not allergies) at events?

403 replies

TheCoralReader · 09/11/2024 22:02

If it’s just a preference, it’s on you to manage. AIBU to think events shouldn’t have to cater to everyone’s diet choices?

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 12:44

So would you be happy if places only provided vegan food? Pretty much everyone can eat vegan, so this would seem the obvious choice if not catering for individual preferences.

Notyouthful · 10/11/2024 12:50

Remember there are many places that are not GF. McDonalds is one of them. They don't offer any GF buns.

KnittedCardi · 10/11/2024 13:16

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 12:44

So would you be happy if places only provided vegan food? Pretty much everyone can eat vegan, so this would seem the obvious choice if not catering for individual preferences.

No they can't. Unless it is very plain, simple, vegetables and rice.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 10/11/2024 13:20

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 12:44

So would you be happy if places only provided vegan food? Pretty much everyone can eat vegan, so this would seem the obvious choice if not catering for individual preferences.

Half the 14 allergens are vegan.
Gluten containing cereals are vegan.

Only providing vegan food is no where near a solution.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 13:20

KnittedCardi · 10/11/2024 13:16

No they can't. Unless it is very plain, simple, vegetables and rice.

Vegan food doesn't have to mean processed shit.

Under the OP's regime, special dietary needs can be catered for. Everyone else can apparently eat the same thing because preferences aren't important. Everyone without specific dietary requirements can eat vegan food.

Personally, I think the OP's suggestion is ridiculous, but if you were going to follow it through, this would be the most obvious way of doing it.

EBearhug · 10/11/2024 13:24

Lots of chips are flour-coated, too. There areoften unexpected challenges for people who are coeliac or allergic or intolerant to some ingredient or other. Allergies to things like allium (onions, garlic, chives, leeks,) or solanaceae vegetables (tomatoes, potatoes, aubergines, bell pepper, chillis,) and things like that must be challenging, as they're all over the place.

I think there are more allergies than there were say 50 years ago. I suspect also more people survive - now we have epipens, but at one time, rarer as anaphylaxis was, people would be less likely to have survived anaphlactic shock. Children with Y1 diabetes just wouldn't have thrived before insulin injections and the ability to check blood sugars were available, and would be less likely to have survived a diabetic coma. I think it must be easier to be coeliac than it was for my aunt when diagnosed in the early '60s.

We have much more awareness of various conditions now (as well as high prevalence.) I think it's a good thing that people who are allergic, coeliac, whatever rlse, are catered for. With a bit of imagination, most dietary needs, whether for a health condition or religious can be catered for. I agree the 50% vegetarian thing is a good rule - most people can eat salads and so on. A good buffet should be able to cater for everyone.

I do agree that people who do things like insist on gf and then scoff all the Danish pastries are taking the piss, though.

5128gap · 10/11/2024 13:29

TheCoralReader · 09/11/2024 23:08

I’ve shared a few examples in the thread - feel free to take a look.

I've looked at all your posts and I'm none the wiser regarding examples. There aren't any. If you mean should Aunty Brenda be allowed to demand a scotch egg at your wedding buffet because she prefers that to pork pie then no. But if you mean should there be a choice of more than one main at the work Xmas do because not everyone likes beef cheek with Stilton in a red wine jus, then yes.

Notyouthful · 10/11/2024 13:31

A colleague at a previous workplace was vegetarian and had an intolerance of garlic.

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 10/11/2024 13:33

Notyouthful · 10/11/2024 13:31

A colleague at a previous workplace was vegetarian and had an intolerance of garlic.

I’m vegetarian & hate rocket, unless cooked.

I’d expect to be provided with a vegetarian option. I’d accept that I might have to pick rocket off / out of it.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/11/2024 13:38

OchonAgusOchonOh · 10/11/2024 12:40

You eat meat at every meal? So breakfast, lunch and dinner are all meat based? That's very unusual these days.

I think it's always been very unusual. I'm in my 60s and when I was growing up breakfast most days was cereal or porridge, toast, boiled eggs. Bacon and eggs on a Sunday. Lunch at home would be soup and a sandwich, or something on toast, typically, and the protein element was as likely to be cheese, cheese spread, Philadelphia, egg mayonnaise, tinned salmon, sardines or pilchards or fish paste as ham or corned beef or meat paste. Evening meal was often macaroni cheese or cauliflower cheese or quiche and salad or Spanish omelette. We had fish and chips every Thursday and often had fish at other times.

Simonjt · 10/11/2024 13:41

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 10/11/2024 13:33

I’m vegetarian & hate rocket, unless cooked.

I’d expect to be provided with a vegetarian option. I’d accept that I might have to pick rocket off / out of it.

I’m a rocket hating vegetarian too, like you I eat around it, unless its a particularly well seasoned dish in which case it ia disguised enough for me to eat it without ruining the meal.

Readytoevolve · 10/11/2024 13:42

This reminds me. A kid came to our door trick or treating and I gave him a little bag of haribo along with his friends.

he said “I can’t eat that I want something else” and took a different item from the bowl of treats but kept the haribo.

His friend then said, he can’t eat gelatine because he is vegetarian. His friend was the polite one.

Respectfully, not my problem kid of your food preferences!

CaptainCallisto · 10/11/2024 13:46

Lavenderblossoms · 10/11/2024 02:03

Aww that sounds really tough actually! Is there anywhere you can go for a meal and be safe? Sorry it's like that for you.

I cannot eat chilli at all. It's not an allergy but my body has in an intolerance to it now and makes me very poorly. And it's in so many dishes it is unbelievable. Even food that wouldn't normally have chilli in, some supermarkets just throw it in anyway.

I'm in exactly the same situation re chilli (though for me, it is an allergy). The last ten years have got increasingly difficult because people just throw it in willynilly. Just before Christmas last year, I ended up in hospital because some fucking muppet decided to put it in all their hot chocolate options without any mention of it being there. I've also been hospitalised through eating lasagne, a ham and cheese sandwich (it was in the bloody cheese), and eggs benedict. I wish it was on the required list of allergens!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 10/11/2024 13:47

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/11/2024 13:38

I think it's always been very unusual. I'm in my 60s and when I was growing up breakfast most days was cereal or porridge, toast, boiled eggs. Bacon and eggs on a Sunday. Lunch at home would be soup and a sandwich, or something on toast, typically, and the protein element was as likely to be cheese, cheese spread, Philadelphia, egg mayonnaise, tinned salmon, sardines or pilchards or fish paste as ham or corned beef or meat paste. Evening meal was often macaroni cheese or cauliflower cheese or quiche and salad or Spanish omelette. We had fish and chips every Thursday and often had fish at other times.

Just pointing out that fish is a type of meat...

But yeah, I'm pushing 60 and meals were similar to yours growing up although dinner was always some form of meat. The meat on Fridays and days of abstinence (Catholic upbringing) was some form of fish.

I disliked most forms of meat. For me, it's a texture thing. Exceptions being poultry, firm fish like shark, fresh tuna (not that they were an option growing up) or very lean, rare steak. I eventually became vegetarian because of my dislike of most meats.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/11/2024 13:53

Yes, I was taking meat very literally to mean flesh of anything except a fish or shellfish.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/11/2024 13:56

Simonjt · 10/11/2024 13:41

I’m a rocket hating vegetarian too, like you I eat around it, unless its a particularly well seasoned dish in which case it ia disguised enough for me to eat it without ruining the meal.

I'll eat your rocket! I love it. At the food bank where I volunteer we were once given a vast box of rocket which most of our clients rejected. I brought home a big bagful and had a blissful few days where every day I had some rocket with extra virgin olive oil, sea salt and plenty of ground pepper. Marvellous stuff.

GetOffTheCounter · 10/11/2024 14:02

My mother grew up rurally abroad and they ate meat at close to every meal. Breakfast would be mince and peas on toast. Lunch would be lamb chops with tinned potatos. Dinner brawn or stew with dumplings. That sort of thing. I always marvel a bit at that- because they were actually really poor and deprived yet meat was really cheap. They had cherry trees in the garden but fruit was for birds and definitely sneered at as a lesser food.

AutumnLeaves24 · 10/11/2024 14:08

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:44

So clearly you have some sort of allergy to meat then, ie not eating it is not a preference.

No I don't think so. Not an allergy, I ate it for 21 years, but not having eaten it for over 30 years, my body rejects it now.

Anyway, it IS a 'preference' of over 30 years, it's a belief that I'm entitled to.

but if I'm being catered for I'd say 'vegetarian, no egg' but I would say something like 'I don't eat green beans'

I also very very low carb for other health reasons, but I wouldn't mention that either, for one meal.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 14:09

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 10/11/2024 13:20

Half the 14 allergens are vegan.
Gluten containing cereals are vegan.

Only providing vegan food is no where near a solution.

That's irrelevant because the OP isn't talking about allergies or gluten intolerance etc. She is talking about food preferences.

To be clear, I'm not arguing for everywhere to serve vegan food only. I'm not even vegan myself. I'm just asking whether, if we were going to stop catering to people's individual preferences, then would the OP be happy with everything being vegan, as that would be suitable for meat eaters, vegetarians, halal etc. Or is it more that she wants other people to eat whatever she thinks is preferable?

I don't think she is suggesting that people with medical needs shouldn't be catered for, so concerns about allergies etc can be set aside.

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 14:54

Heard it all on here. Unhealthy, bland, overprocessed.
People struggling to eat a meal with just 1 item removed.
Vegan like everything else is just food that has a wide variety of ingredients and recipes.

Some folk just wouldn't eat a carrot if the packet said vegan.

fanaticalfairy · 10/11/2024 15:00

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 14:54

Heard it all on here. Unhealthy, bland, overprocessed.
People struggling to eat a meal with just 1 item removed.
Vegan like everything else is just food that has a wide variety of ingredients and recipes.

Some folk just wouldn't eat a carrot if the packet said vegan.

Maybe it's just people don't like it when others impose their dietary restrictions on them 🤷‍♀️

Nanny0gg · 10/11/2024 15:03

OchonAgusOchonOh · 10/11/2024 12:40

You eat meat at every meal? So breakfast, lunch and dinner are all meat based? That's very unusual these days.

Or fish or eggs.

Don't like a lot of foods

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 16:39

fanaticalfairy · 10/11/2024 15:00

Maybe it's just people don't like it when others impose their dietary restrictions on them 🤷‍♀️

Nobody would be giving you food you don't normally eat so how is that imposing their dietary restrictions?

fanaticalfairy · 10/11/2024 16:54

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 16:39

Nobody would be giving you food you don't normally eat so how is that imposing their dietary restrictions?

Because if a vegan is hosting an event with only vegan food, they're imposing their restrictions on you.

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 16:59

fanaticalfairy · 10/11/2024 16:54

Because if a vegan is hosting an event with only vegan food, they're imposing their restrictions on you.

So if a vegan not serving steak is imposing restrictions is an omnivore not serving kale imposing their restrictions on me?

They don't eat kale so I'm not allowed it either?

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