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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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AnotherChildFreeCatLady · 09/11/2024 17:34

MissyB1 · 09/11/2024 17:15

I agree that the IDF & Israeli government have shown themselves no better than Hamas. Israel will carry a heavy stain on their reputation for decades over what they've done to Gaza.

Yes they will, I just wish the western world didn't continue to support them. They are truly horrible people.

Pippa246 · 09/11/2024 17:37

Anywherebuthere · 09/11/2024 09:38

Sadly the men who do this have such a warped ingrained mindset that they will happily marry off/sell their daughters to suffer the same too.

They don't see them as human with rights and feelings.

Indeed. I remember the story of the father who strapped bombs to his very young daughters who then walked into a police station and blew themselves up. Females are just seen as nothing in these situations

BabyEl · 09/11/2024 19:52

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 13:06

Not to the extent of killing 41000 civilians, no. And various organisations which have investigated Israels’ claims that Hamas are using the population as human shields, have found no evidence of it that meets international law. They considered Israel to be using human shielding allegations to justify their own war crimes against civilians, saying that when state actors, such as Israel, kill civilians, it’s become standard to describe them as human shields. And Israel’s response is widely considered to be neither reasonable nor proportionate under international law. You neglected to mention that the IDS have been using kidnapped Palestinians as human shields themselves. Forcing them into booby trapped homes and tunnels ahead of the soldiers. How is that any different ?

41,000 civilians?

how many Hamas were killed then?

BabyEl · 09/11/2024 19:57

Justiceeternal · 09/11/2024 12:54

Google search: all information is out there if you look for it.

Is this a joke?
half the inheritance?
allowed to divorce in some cases?

you also missed out the right to be beaten by their husbands, the right to be raped at 9, the right to be stoned, and the right to almost never get into heaven.

The Prophet ﷺ said: “I was shown paradise, I saw that most of its inhabitants were the poor… and I was shown hell, I saw most of its inhabitants were women.”

JaneJeffer · 09/11/2024 20:06

You might want to lay off the booze

caringcarer · 09/11/2024 21:00

I read this this morning in the Telegraph and felt physically sick. Those poor little girls will get raped by old men.

JazzyJelly · 09/11/2024 21:07

caringcarer · 09/11/2024 21:00

I read this this morning in the Telegraph and felt physically sick. Those poor little girls will get raped by old men.

Exactly this. Is there any way to adopt these girls? I have a spare bedroom and would be willing to take a child and her mother.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/11/2024 21:16

God how utterly horrific. There could never be any justification for allowing that - no one’s religion/ culture/ traditions makes that ok.

God knows how the world can stop it though.

caringcarer · 09/11/2024 21:37

BabyEl · 09/11/2024 19:52

41,000 civilians?

how many Hamas were killed then?

All they have to do is release the fucking hostages. They are even keeping dead bodies hostage. It is sick.

EarthSight · 09/11/2024 21:37

MissyB1 · 09/11/2024 17:28

Racists never like being called out do they?

Or.....maybe you're just wrong every now and again. A difficult thing for you to comprehend, I'm sure.

Fizzle1 · 09/11/2024 21:58

JazzyJelly · 09/11/2024 21:07

Exactly this. Is there any way to adopt these girls? I have a spare bedroom and would be willing to take a child and her mother.

This is an old story the western media just picked up recently. This proposed legislation was met with large protests and public backlash and was dropped

Brananan · 09/11/2024 23:06

Fizzle1 · 09/11/2024 21:58

This is an old story the western media just picked up recently. This proposed legislation was met with large protests and public backlash and was dropped

The second reading of the amendment to Law 188 was passed on September 16.
It isn’t the first time Shia parties in Iraq have tried to amend the personal status law – attempts to change it failed in 2014 and 2017, largely due to a backlash from Iraqi women.
But the coalition now has a large parliamentary majority and is on the brink of pushing the amendment over the line, said Dr Renad Mansour, a senior research fellow at Chatham House.

CallItLoneliness · 09/11/2024 23:42

As asked, in what Muslim country are women's rights protected and girls will have the same equal access to opportunities as her male counterparts?

fixed that for you. Even in the countries with very high gender equality ratings (the nordics, usually) there are still big gaps. Finland only let women into the army in 1995, and same (weirdly) with their Rotary clubs. NZ, which does well on this index, is an extremely sexist and patriarchal culture--just look at the threats levelled at Jacinda Ardern and her child.

JazzyJelly · 10/11/2024 00:08

Fizzle1 · 09/11/2024 21:58

This is an old story the western media just picked up recently. This proposed legislation was met with large protests and public backlash and was dropped

Ok. I would still be willing to take in a mother and child from these countries.

Simonjt · 10/11/2024 05:29

JazzyJelly · 10/11/2024 00:08

Ok. I would still be willing to take in a mother and child from these countries.

There are countless refugees in unsuitable temporary housing, if you contact your local council they can link you with charities and departments who do organise home stays.

Fizzle1 · 10/11/2024 06:19

JazzyJelly · 10/11/2024 00:08

Ok. I would still be willing to take in a mother and child from these countries.

It’s a lovely sentiment that you would be willing to open your home - unfortunately with the current asylum system in the UK this isn’t possible. As someone who lives in Iraq, a great way to support would be supporting Iraq’s own civil society organisations, youth advocacy groups who are passionate about changing the way things currently are in Iraq and also women led organisations and support sustainable development within the country

Gman0206 · 10/11/2024 06:30

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 08:52

How is the world allowing this to happen

It's apparently considered 'racist' not to.

GoldCat255 · 10/11/2024 06:43

Without doubt, the most harrowing gut-wrenching piece of news of the year.
It is soul-destroying to read this kind of stuff. Western countries fucked it up big time with Iraq.

Fizzle1 · 10/11/2024 06:48

I know what it says in the article however I live in Iraq and it’s not entirely accurate in the way the writer has presented the information. As mentioned in previous posts, this was completely squashed in September after first being raised in around August (which is a couple months ago and is “old” for the article, considering it is reporting it as if this is currently going through our parliament when it has already been stopped) There was a large public backlash, protests, media coverage and SM campaigns in the country, protests run by women led organisations as well as higher level pressure from UN and human rights orgs active in Iraq.

The reason they say it was the closest it ever came is because of the make up of the current government means that it was technically a possibility - but in terms of popular opinion, like in previous years it wasn’t dropped due to the response of large parts of society with no more said about this within parliament - although I am sure it will be brought up again in the future.

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 07:31

GoldCat255 · 10/11/2024 06:43

Without doubt, the most harrowing gut-wrenching piece of news of the year.
It is soul-destroying to read this kind of stuff. Western countries fucked it up big time with Iraq.

this decision has 0 to do with western countries

Isitjustme20 · 10/11/2024 07:35

I just cannot believe what is happening to women’s rights across the world, we have truly taking a step back and absolutely nobody gives a shit. Everyone will carry on turning a blind eye, femicide is a thing that is just swept under the carpet. I am sickened.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 07:45

caringcarer · 09/11/2024 21:37

All they have to do is release the fucking hostages. They are even keeping dead bodies hostage. It is sick.

There was a piece in The Times a few weeks ago. If I can find a link l’ll post it. The story was about a Lebanese village. Israeli intelligence indicated that a suspected Hezbollah terrorist was active in the village, so they bombed it. When aid workers went in they found that a childrens’ playground had been hit. Toys and childrens’ body parts scattered everywhere according to those who witnessed the aftermath. Tuns out that Hezbollah member was actually an aid worker. An entire village wiped out. You say that the thought of young girls being raped by old men in Iraq sickens you. And yet you support a regime that bombs indiscriminately with no thought to the innocents involved.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 07:47

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 07:31

this decision has 0 to do with western countries

You mean the same western countries who had a hand in installing these governments ?

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 07:58

Henriettahoovers · 09/11/2024 12:56

Maybe Hamas should have built some air raid shelters like Israel had to when their civilians have been endlessly rocketed at.

What a ridiculous comment. Hamas don’t give a flying fuck about the civilian population. Why would they build shelters ?

Lentilweaver · 10/11/2024 08:16

It's perfectly possible to be alarmed about growing radicalisation and conservatism in many countries- not just Islamic ones but yes mostly- without 'liberating' the women and children of those countries by dropping bombs on them.