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to think that children in your child's class don't identify as animals?

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wotnofurries · 08/11/2024 14:39

inspired by the wearing a tail to school thread, I thought I'd see just how common or otherwise the whole furry/litter tray/identify as an animal thing really is.

Unreasonable = Yes, a child in my child's class does this.
Not Unreasonable = Don't be silly, never come across one in my life.

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Brananan · 09/11/2024 18:41

The litter tray in classrooms is an urban myth.

Listen to Jon Ronson on this.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 09/11/2024 18:43

Brananan · 09/11/2024 18:41

The litter tray in classrooms is an urban myth.

Listen to Jon Ronson on this.

Yeah I've just Googled and there are no schools anywhere with litter trays.

I wonder if any parents have complained their kids have had to shit in the the flower bed? 😁

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/11/2024 19:05

VeggPatch · 09/11/2024 16:43

Goths definitely had kink connected to their subculture and it was a whole lot less cutesy than a fluffy tail. Visit to Torture Garden anyone?

Heh heh, I had a bet on with myself that this would be picked up on.

Yes, there is a fetish scene which some Goths are into - yes, I've been to Torture Garden and Antichrist as a punter and in a live performance role. Adult nightclubs heavily self policed because no-one wants to lose their license nor have people outed, marginalised or dragged into disrepute for what they do in their private lives. Emphasis on adult and private.

Also not the same as "identifying" as something like an animal in every day life and behaving like it and expecting it to be tolerated / adjustments made in a setting like a school.

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 20:51

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ACapybaraNamedFred · 09/11/2024 21:00

CooksDryMeasure · 09/11/2024 12:04

My DH is a GP at a surgery that takes medical students for part of their training. The dean of the medical school has told them one of the incoming students identifies as a cat & needs adjustments made. I was so gobsmacked as to me this is a right wing click bait rumour (I am gender critical btw!) that I questioned him again & again on this but I have no reason to think DH or the dean would be making this up…

Why would they need adjustments? It's not a protected characteristic, surely?

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 21:09

Oh and the people saying that subcultures like goths aren’t connected to a kink - really??? Dog collars and fishnet stockings?? I wore a dog collar during my teenage goth stage. Didn’t associate it with bdsm at the time but that’s what it represents. I just thought it looked cool.

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I can't believe we're calling children "nasty bitches" to be honest.

ACapybaraNamedFred · 09/11/2024 21:12

To be fair to @Neodymium, her daughter isn't asking for special accommodations to be made for her, and she sounds a pretty cool kid! I say this as someone who hates the whole identity and gender bollocks, and has no patience for it at all.

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 21:13

Bananaram · 09/11/2024 21:09

I can't believe we're calling children "nasty bitches" to be honest.

Well some tween girls are. A 12 year old local girl in my area killed herself recently from the relentless bullying from other bitchy tween girls in her grade. I’m just saying I’d rather a kind daughter who doesn’t bully others but likes to make masks than one who is a nasty bully 🙄.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 21:17

TwattyMcFuckFace · 09/11/2024 18:43

Yeah I've just Googled and there are no schools anywhere with litter trays.

I wonder if any parents have complained their kids have had to shit in the the flower bed? 😁

This myth came from a school in America that had litter tray filled buckets in the classroom in case they had a school shooting and had to lock down.

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 21:17

ACapybaraNamedFred · 09/11/2024 21:12

To be fair to @Neodymium, her daughter isn't asking for special accommodations to be made for her, and she sounds a pretty cool kid! I say this as someone who hates the whole identity and gender bollocks, and has no patience for it at all.

no she isn’t, and none of the therians are. Where the fake news comes into this is all the talk of litter trays and adjustments. They are just normal tween kids. I know a lot of therians and not one wants to use a litter box or insists on crawling round purring. they just make masks and tails and sometimes wear them out in a group.

MillyMichaelson · 09/11/2024 21:21

To be fair @Neodymium you're now calling an 11 year old a nasty bitch.

SlimMcSlim · 09/11/2024 21:25

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I’d dare to suggest you can’t transition biological sex either.

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 21:25

MillyMichaelson · 09/11/2024 21:21

To be fair @Neodymium you're now calling an 11 year old a nasty bitch.

there is nothing wrong with calling out behaviour - just because they are 11 or 12 doesn’t mean they can’t be bitchy. As I said a 12 year old near me recently killed herself due to the relentless bullying from other 12 year olds in her grade. Being 12 doesn’t mean you are exempt from being called nasty when you are being nasty. The messages and taunts the girl endured were horrendous.

Fluufer · 09/11/2024 21:29

Neodymium · 09/11/2024 21:25

there is nothing wrong with calling out behaviour - just because they are 11 or 12 doesn’t mean they can’t be bitchy. As I said a 12 year old near me recently killed herself due to the relentless bullying from other 12 year olds in her grade. Being 12 doesn’t mean you are exempt from being called nasty when you are being nasty. The messages and taunts the girl endured were horrendous.

So it's fine to call out bitchy netball girls, but we can't call out the ones thinking they're a different species?
If it's fine for you to call children bitches, then it's definitely fine to tell them they can't be cats.

DelilahRay · 09/11/2024 22:21

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Neodymium · 09/11/2024 23:30

Fluufer · 09/11/2024 21:29

So it's fine to call out bitchy netball girls, but we can't call out the ones thinking they're a different species?
If it's fine for you to call children bitches, then it's definitely fine to tell them they can't be cats.

Being bitchy and nasty affects others. It is directed at others. Wearing a mask and a tail does not. That is the difference. I can see you are one of these snowflakes that is triggered by other people doing their own thing minding their own business. If you don’t want to wear a mask then don’t. But why does that give you the right to tell others they can’t do it either.

honestly. It’s like the gay marriage debate all over again. You don’t want a gay marriage? Great, don’t have one. But why are you triggered by other people doing it? Why be so hateful? Stay in your own lane.

that’s all I’m saying. If kids are being nasty to others that should stop. But when they are doing their own thing minding their own business leave them be. They aren’t hurting anyone. Unlike bitchy girls sending nasty messages and sharing photos ect. They ARE hurting others.

ACapybaraNamedFred · 09/11/2024 23:39

MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/11/2024 19:05

Heh heh, I had a bet on with myself that this would be picked up on.

Yes, there is a fetish scene which some Goths are into - yes, I've been to Torture Garden and Antichrist as a punter and in a live performance role. Adult nightclubs heavily self policed because no-one wants to lose their license nor have people outed, marginalised or dragged into disrepute for what they do in their private lives. Emphasis on adult and private.

Also not the same as "identifying" as something like an animal in every day life and behaving like it and expecting it to be tolerated / adjustments made in a setting like a school.

I don't think legally the teachers are under an actual obligation to make adjustments for a preference (dressing as an animal) which isn't a protected characteristic (not should it be. I don't think any of the "identity" guff should be to be honest).

Neodymium · 10/11/2024 06:40

ACapybaraNamedFred · 09/11/2024 23:39

I don't think legally the teachers are under an actual obligation to make adjustments for a preference (dressing as an animal) which isn't a protected characteristic (not should it be. I don't think any of the "identity" guff should be to be honest).

There isn’t ever adjustments made. That’s a load of crap that is just rolled out by ignorant people.

WarriorN · 10/11/2024 06:43

DutchCowgirl · 08/11/2024 15:02

I think the people who are so offended by the word “identifying” should imagine what an 11 year old girl sees as “identifying “ as a cat. It is no different from being a real big fan of Madonna and dressing up like her in the 80’s.

The pr

WarriorN · 10/11/2024 06:45

The problem is that online communities of furries are linked to fetish and bdsm and worse.

So a child who's picked up the term may move on to other things online if not appropriately safeguarded and the potential to be groomed.

Very well known case linked to the Green Party. David challenor

urbanbuddha · 10/11/2024 06:51

I read online recently that American schools keep cat litter in the classroom in case they go into lockdown because of a shooting. It’s there in case the children need to pee while locked in their classrooms.
I wonder if this question about fetishism is the internet spinning out of control.

Xenia · 10/11/2024 08:37

Children can play games in their own time. It should not be brought into the classroom.

Zapx · 10/11/2024 08:43

I couldn’t believe it but this is definitely a thing. There were three “cats” at a sports hall event I went to recently. All about 13. I think wearing the masks must’ve been quite hot as they kept taking them off, but the tails stayed on the entire time 🤷‍♀️

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