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TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

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SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

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7ft1garysson · 07/11/2024 20:48

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:38

Vaccine injury isn’t a conspiracy. Of course there have been vaccine injuries. There’s been adverse effects of all medication. Nobody can dispute that but I can tell you what hasn’t happened; stuff hasn’t been pulled out of anybody’s veins whilst being embalmed.

do you have an AMA thread? To me It’s interesting to know what happens during the embalming process, I only recently found out all the blood is drained away, not sure what I thought happened.

Over40Overdating · 07/11/2024 20:50

@BoundaryGirl3939 people have been going to sleep and not waking up since people have been going to sleep.

Yes you know one person who this happened to post vaccine but there are more people who this happened to after having a poo. Or watching Corrie. Or eating cheese sandwiches. No one is making posts about that trying to be deep.

No one is denying vaccine injury is a thing but it’s not unique to Covid vaccines. Any medical intervention, be that aspirin or vaccines or having your piles frozen off comes with the risk of complication.

Stillnormal · 07/11/2024 20:50

Not sure about the stuff in veins but there’s a government compensation station scheme for people who suffered serious harm from the covid vaccines - here - https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment - there were/are some real problems for sure.

Vaccine Damage Payment

A Vaccine Damage Payment is a one-off tax-free payment of £120,000 if you're severely disabled as a result of vaccination against certain diseases - what you'll get, eligibility and applying.

https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

ChickenoftheWoods · 07/11/2024 20:51

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:34

It doesn’t take years to create a vaccine. It takes years to gain funding for a vaccine to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs. If I had the ingredients in my bathroom, I could go and create a vaccine right now and test it on my family. When you have united pharma companies halting all work on other developments to concentrate on one goal with a limitless budget available, it happens more quickly. This isn’t even hard to understand.

But you already know all this. I’m sure I don’t need to explain further 😉

Lack of education is a terrible thing

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:51

7ft1garysson · 07/11/2024 20:48

do you have an AMA thread? To me It’s interesting to know what happens during the embalming process, I only recently found out all the blood is drained away, not sure what I thought happened.

It’s already been done I think! There was definitely one from an Anatomical Pathology Technician, one from a Funeral Director and a really good one from a Crematorium Technician. It’s worth a search. Lots of decent informative accounts on Instagram and TikTok too. Death literacy is a hot thing right now.

I don’t work with deceased patients anymore although I still work within that area.

SapphireOpal · 07/11/2024 20:55

Stillnormal · 07/11/2024 20:50

Not sure about the stuff in veins but there’s a government compensation station scheme for people who suffered serious harm from the covid vaccines - here - https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment - there were/are some real problems for sure.

It's not just for the covid vaccines though is it?

Last time I heard there had been less than 200 awards for covid vaccines. Out of the millions of people who've received it that's vanishingly small.

Stillnormal · 07/11/2024 21:00

SapphireOpal · 07/11/2024 20:55

It's not just for the covid vaccines though is it?

Last time I heard there had been less than 200 awards for covid vaccines. Out of the millions of people who've received it that's vanishingly small.

No! Apparently not - thanks. I hadn’t realised that.

nosmartphone · 07/11/2024 21:01

My sister had a pulmonary embolism last year - very lucky to be alive.

First thing the consultants asked was, when did you have the vaccines. She didn't have any of them. They were very surprised. Blood clots are definitely a symptom.

StaunchMomma · 07/11/2024 21:07

The troll has escaped the dungeon.

FartfulCodger · 07/11/2024 21:07

MissMoneyFairy · 07/11/2024 17:38

How will they call you if the red stuff was put in an unmarked bag

Tiny trackers in the vaccines

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 21:11

FartfulCodger · 07/11/2024 21:07

Tiny trackers in the vaccines

I’d totally forgotten about the trackers!!!

that was probably one of the biggest disappointments of my life that Gates wasn’t tracking me everytime I had a wee.

Over40Overdating · 07/11/2024 21:12

@nosmartphone blood clots are also a side effect of Covid.I know a lot of people who had them after catching Covid pre vaccine.
It’s not unique to either scenario. Many more people develop blood clots from the pill or flying or smoking.

Nothing is risk free. Nothing will be safe for 100% of people. The choice people were given is be vaccinated as a way of reducing the risk of catching covid and/or reducing it’s severity or running the risk of catching covid at full whack.

In both scenarios there are people who had zero serious side effects, people who had mild symptoms, people who had issues and people who died. Many more people were harmed by Covid than the vaccine.

Backtoblack87 · 07/11/2024 21:28

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:29

But you are being stupid.

You said it as a fact to imply that those things happening is a result of the COVID vaccine. It isn’t. That’s fact that is backed by substantial evidence.

I didn’t say it as a fact! You’re clearly very precious about the Covid vaccine! Good for you.

Todaywasbetter · 07/11/2024 21:30

Funny thread. Bonkers.

SpottySpotSpots · 07/11/2024 21:33

ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 20:31

It takes years to create a vaccine so who knows what the side effects could be. They didn't have time to research and test it.

The reason it usually takes years is funding. Most of those years are spent trying to source funding in order to run trials. The length of the trials are not years. When funding is readily available, as it was with covid, researchers can move more quickly between trial stages. Other things like sour ING volunteers etc can add further delays that again, weren't an issue for the covid vaccine.

SpottySpotSpots · 07/11/2024 21:35

nosmartphone · 07/11/2024 21:01

My sister had a pulmonary embolism last year - very lucky to be alive.

First thing the consultants asked was, when did you have the vaccines. She didn't have any of them. They were very surprised. Blood clots are definitely a symptom.

Given that people of all ages have had pulmonary embolism for centuries before the covid vaccine, I'm surprised that any medical professional would be surprised tbh

GoldOnyx · 07/11/2024 21:36

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 07/11/2024 17:28

I know people will dismiss this as an anecdote but I swear it's true.

I've had several COVID vaccines. Last month I went to the doctor with strange symptoms - racing heart, fatigue, breathlessness. He seemed alarmed and sent me down this long corridor to a woman in a lab coat, mask, gloves, the works. She stuck a needle in my vein and I swear, SO MUCH red stuff came out. Four whole tubes of it. She was very careful not to touch the red stuff and handled the tubes very carefully. She put them in an unmarked bag. It seemed a well practiced process, as if she sees this stuff all the time.

I asked what was wrong with me and she wouldn't look me in the eye. Said I'd have to wait for a call.

I'm very scared.

Is the red stuff…. blood?

kittensinthekitchen · 07/11/2024 21:38

Has anyone else posted the link to this thread on a thread where anyone is questioning how Trump got re-elected?

Some people are so fucking stupid.

pavementgerms · 07/11/2024 21:51

The lack of critical thinking, laid over the "I do my research" (AKA watch conspiracy theory videos on YouTube) squawking, is sad and frightening in equal measure.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 22:02

@kittensinthekitchen Apparently it's George Clooneys fault they should have kept sleepy Joe where he was. The Democrats deserve it. They gave Trump that win. A woman has never been president they are a religious country ruled by Catholicism. They should have put a young man in opposition Trump would never have won. He'll be 82 in 2028 who will they vote for then. I suppose the next potential president will come with a zimmer frame.

Gingerbee · 07/11/2024 22:15

I have a young relative who had a SCAD of unknown origin as a teenager. He is well and was fundraising for defibrillators in local village. Next think his photo was on front page if local rag saying it was because of his covid vaccine. They had to retract the article and issue an apology as he had his problem in 2014!!!!

DamselinDistress24 · 07/11/2024 22:39

Marmunia10667 · 07/11/2024 20:33

But one of the symptoms was not having any symptoms.

Yeeees, that's what my first sentence said.

My second sentence pointed out that, without incessant testing, how would you know for absolute certain that you've never had COVID?

CurlewKate · 07/11/2024 22:45

@Annabella92 "I think it was the pressure put on those who were quite happy not to have the vaccine"

You were not pressured to have the vaccine. There were just measures in place to stop you putting other people at risk if you chose not to.

Nikitaspearlearring · 07/11/2024 22:50

Galatine · 07/11/2024 18:29

Allegedly is spot on. it's aways someone who spoke to someone whose related to a man who knows a scientist who's married to a doctor who's cat ran up our alleyway.

Get a grip OP.

I take your point. But this carer, who works at the Home, presumably talks to funeral directors quite a lot. This was some months ago that DH had the conversation with her. I hadn't heard about it before and had forgotten about it until I saw this today, and added in my two ha'pence. But whatever. I've now read the report linked above and am happy to accept the claim has been debunked.

Dotto · 07/11/2024 23:40

Nikitaspearlearring · 07/11/2024 22:50

I take your point. But this carer, who works at the Home, presumably talks to funeral directors quite a lot. This was some months ago that DH had the conversation with her. I hadn't heard about it before and had forgotten about it until I saw this today, and added in my two ha'pence. But whatever. I've now read the report linked above and am happy to accept the claim has been debunked.

Edited

Someone's on a wind-up, more likely.