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TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

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SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

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ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 20:29

The fear is building

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:29

Backtoblack87 · 07/11/2024 20:24

Stop speaking to me like I am stupid.

I was just telling you what I have noticed. Some of these people had the symptoms within days of the vaccine so I would assume this was the cause. However, you must know best!

But you are being stupid.

You said it as a fact to imply that those things happening is a result of the COVID vaccine. It isn’t. That’s fact that is backed by substantial evidence.

HippoCamping · 07/11/2024 20:29

I mean if my mate, the funeral director - told me he’d been pulling funny threads out of peoples’ bodies, I’d ask just a couple of questions - for clarification,

Or did you just change subject and talk about the weather??

ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 20:31

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:29

But you are being stupid.

You said it as a fact to imply that those things happening is a result of the COVID vaccine. It isn’t. That’s fact that is backed by substantial evidence.

It takes years to create a vaccine so who knows what the side effects could be. They didn't have time to research and test it.

Chandlerbuffay · 07/11/2024 20:32

SilenceInside · 07/11/2024 20:26

@Chandlerbuffay why would you repeat things that you don't understand and didn't in any way question or examine for truthfulness and reason?

Why? because I was responding to @SensibleSigma opening post that this was something that I’d been told by someone with experience in the funeral industry.

HippoCamping · 07/11/2024 20:33

@WytchWay

Mark Twain — 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'

Marmunia10667 · 07/11/2024 20:33

DamselinDistress24 · 07/11/2024 18:41

Weren't some people asymptomatic.

Unless you constantly tested, how would you know for sure.

But one of the symptoms was not having any symptoms.

stargazerlil · 07/11/2024 20:33

Go back and get more info, he needs to elaborate..Ask him what the thread is and is he insinuating that the Covid vaccine was actually nothing more than a bit of silly string??

Daschund · 07/11/2024 20:33

WooleyMunky · 07/11/2024 17:35

The 'red stuff' was most likely blood.
Probably avoided touching it as a matter of routine hygiene.

And starting anything with 'I swear this is true' tends to be as believable as a 14yr old boy launching a story about this model that met on holiday with his parents but she goes to another school so you wouldn't know her.

There's always one...😂

Chandlerbuffay · 07/11/2024 20:34

HippoCamping · 07/11/2024 20:29

I mean if my mate, the funeral director - told me he’d been pulling funny threads out of peoples’ bodies, I’d ask just a couple of questions - for clarification,

Or did you just change subject and talk about the weather??

It’s not something I enjoyed discussing so I probably did avoid talking anymore about it to honest.

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:34

It doesn’t take years to create a vaccine. It takes years to gain funding for a vaccine to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs. If I had the ingredients in my bathroom, I could go and create a vaccine right now and test it on my family. When you have united pharma companies halting all work on other developments to concentrate on one goal with a limitless budget available, it happens more quickly. This isn’t even hard to understand.

But you already know all this. I’m sure I don’t need to explain further 😉

XelaM · 07/11/2024 20:35

Well, there are actual court cases against some of the vaccine manufacturers where liability for death/injury was proven in at least 80 cases. So these are not complete conspiracy theories.

IncessantNameChanger · 07/11/2024 20:35

temperedolive · 07/11/2024 17:20

I had a colleague tell me 75% of those of us being vaccinated would be dead within 18 months. It's 11/24, and all of us are still alive.

I think she's quite disappointed that not one person has had the good graces to drop dead and help her save face.

Edited

Me too. Also she didn't belive in covid but couldn't meet me if I had the vaccine, possibly to avoid catching a disease she didn't belive in.

StrugglingAlways · 07/11/2024 20:35

temperedolive · 07/11/2024 17:20

I had a colleague tell me 75% of those of us being vaccinated would be dead within 18 months. It's 11/24, and all of us are still alive.

I think she's quite disappointed that not one person has had the good graces to drop dead and help her save face.

Edited

Sadly however - I lost two friends who chose not to be vaccinated (46 and 52).

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:36

HippoCamping · 07/11/2024 20:33

@WytchWay

Mark Twain — 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'

Isn’t it just! Lord help me, I do enjoy the show though 😂

7ft1garysson · 07/11/2024 20:37

I had two of the vaccines, the first ones before any boosters were recommended and glad I didn’t get anymore.

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:38

Vaccine injury isn’t a conspiracy. Of course there have been vaccine injuries. There’s been adverse effects of all medication. Nobody can dispute that but I can tell you what hasn’t happened; stuff hasn’t been pulled out of anybody’s veins whilst being embalmed.

SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 20:39

Embalmers drain stuff out of bodies and pump embalming fluid through in its place. I would assume that clots would be part of that, to be honest.

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WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:41

SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 20:39

Embalmers drain stuff out of bodies and pump embalming fluid through in its place. I would assume that clots would be part of that, to be honest.

You can look up the embalming process online. It’s been around for 1000s of years.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 07/11/2024 20:44

I know a 60 year old man who died in his sleep the very night after getting his first covid vax. Nobody spoke about this fact at funeral. It was hush hush. He was fine before vax. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.

Moonlightstars · 07/11/2024 20:44

Imanalcoholic · 07/11/2024 17:51

Cool story bro

Whoooooosh

ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 20:44

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:34

It doesn’t take years to create a vaccine. It takes years to gain funding for a vaccine to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs. If I had the ingredients in my bathroom, I could go and create a vaccine right now and test it on my family. When you have united pharma companies halting all work on other developments to concentrate on one goal with a limitless budget available, it happens more quickly. This isn’t even hard to understand.

But you already know all this. I’m sure I don’t need to explain further 😉

10 to 15 years of research and development. Honestly you might as well tell people to inject bleach Trump.

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 07/11/2024 20:45

SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

Sometimes it’s easy to get drawn into the conspiracies even when you’re normally a very rational person. It’s not necessarily a bad thing to read up about conspiracies either (they’re just different views on things after all) but I try not to worry too much about something after it’s happened. I’ve had two vaccines plus the booster but won’t have any more. There’s still a tiny niggle I have about the whole thing even when I’ve got my sensible head on 😊

WytchWay · 07/11/2024 20:47

ThatRareUmberJoker · 07/11/2024 20:44

10 to 15 years of research and development. Honestly you might as well tell people to inject bleach Trump.

I’d do anything for a quiet life. I’ll give it a go 😁

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