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TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

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SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

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ThatRareUmberJoker · 08/11/2024 15:01

OliphantJones · 08/11/2024 12:54

Scientist’s already had a base for a COVID vaccine as there had already been loads of work done on developing a vaccine because of the previous SARS outbreaks. They simply had to tweak / adjust what they already had.

Makes sense for the quick roll out they were able to do.

KnickerlessParsons · 08/11/2024 15:38

It's in the news currently that someone was seriously ill/nearly died (according to your news source) after using Mounjaro, but plenty of people are still buying it off unknown sellers on the internet.

lindyloo57 · 08/11/2024 18:10

I watched a Dr John on youtube interview American and British Dr's about this, they said that they had never seen this before lockdown, so they definitely thought it was to do the the covid jabs.

eyupcocker · 08/11/2024 18:22

SensibleSigma · 07/11/2024 17:10

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

You are going to be called some really shitty things and some really crap comments will be made here. I’m on your side. A lot of people now realise the vaccine was actually bollocks. I work in a dept at my local hospital and we deal with conditions that have been brought on by vaccine injury. If only people realised the amount of ‘young persons’ stoke clinics have popped up, cardio, vascular, oncology (etc) departments are beyond breaking point and having a relative who owns a funeral directors, I can 100% tell you, you are sadly not wrong.

Dunnowhatimat · 08/11/2024 18:28

pointswinprizes · 07/11/2024 17:19

Why are people so dumb about a bloody vaccine? If you’d rather have the disease then go for it 🙄

Is there a vaccine now that prevents covid?

Dunnowhatimat · 08/11/2024 18:32

No YANBU to question it all. Do I think some people are going too far into conspiracy theories? Yes, perhaps. But I also think all the ppl who were freaking out and supporting authoritarianism in case anyone got sick, but now don't seem to give a hoot that excess deaths are greater after the vaccine than they were during the initial and some subsequent outbreaks of covid are the real crazy ones.

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 18:45

My best friends Father had the Covid 19 vaccine which caused Myocarditis, so he's unable to have more.
A close family friend went for his 2nd booster, he crashed his car on the way home - Dr's said reaction to vaccine and he now has a heart condition.
Security guard at my work is now disabled from it. He's received a Government's payout.
My elderly neighbour went for his latest Covid booster 3 weeks ago. I was with the paramedics in the Ambulance who said more than likely caused by the Covid jab as they are seeing it so often. He's still in hospital now :-(
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but how anyone can say these Jabs are safe is beyond me now. I have read they are causing extreme clotting of the blood, so much so that as you say, they are pulling them out of veins. I have no knowledge whether it's true at all, the above are my own experiences with people I know.
Obviously if this is happening, the Government will do all they can to hide it from us. A Texan attorney is currently suing Pfizer over its effectiveness.

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 19:00

Marmunia10667 · 07/11/2024 20:18

Thank you. It's common knowledge, backed up by stats. I have a friend who is on longterm medication, due to her 'sudden heart issue' which has been in force since the week after having the vaccine.

Thankfully, I saw the red flags - coercion, brainwashed TikTok nurses dancing, (when hospitals were empty), the seal-clappers at 6pm every Thursday....all about control and to see who would comply moving forward.

BTW Did monkeypox ever materialise?

Oh the worn out Nurses from exhausting shifts, yet had time to choreograph dance routines.....🥱

Whippetlovely · 08/11/2024 19:06

alottobedone · 07/11/2024 19:50

No idea who told you this. The good scientists said no such thing. You can go back and research it, what they said was clear. Honestly.

Good scientists lol what does that even mean. We were told this you can pretend we weren't all you like, I worked in healthcare we were told to get the vaccine to protect our residents because it would stop transmission at the time the vaccine as new out and we're told 94% efficiency. Turns out it didn't stop transmission at all.

Whippetlovely · 08/11/2024 19:11

CurlewKate · 08/11/2024 08:56

@Annabella92 "It transpired that it didn't prevent transmission though didn't it? So the coercion was based on misinformation."

Others have explained why you're wrong here. And there was no coercion.

There was coercion they were threarnjfn to sack nhs workers if they didn't get the vaccine what do you call that????? People have short memories.

Todaywasbetter · 08/11/2024 19:23

This thread is just the saddest one I’ve read. It’s just pathetic the way you’re inventing things to suit your fantasies about conspiracy.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 08/11/2024 19:41

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 18:45

My best friends Father had the Covid 19 vaccine which caused Myocarditis, so he's unable to have more.
A close family friend went for his 2nd booster, he crashed his car on the way home - Dr's said reaction to vaccine and he now has a heart condition.
Security guard at my work is now disabled from it. He's received a Government's payout.
My elderly neighbour went for his latest Covid booster 3 weeks ago. I was with the paramedics in the Ambulance who said more than likely caused by the Covid jab as they are seeing it so often. He's still in hospital now :-(
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but how anyone can say these Jabs are safe is beyond me now. I have read they are causing extreme clotting of the blood, so much so that as you say, they are pulling them out of veins. I have no knowledge whether it's true at all, the above are my own experiences with people I know.
Obviously if this is happening, the Government will do all they can to hide it from us. A Texan attorney is currently suing Pfizer over its effectiveness.

Well my cousin had the vaccine and two days later her amputated leg grew back. Then a man at my work had it at the weekend and never came back because he started shitting gold ingots and was already a millionaire. My friend's two-year-old is currently at Johns Hopkins because after the vaccine he started working on a cancer cure and he's just cracked it, though big pharmacy is trying to suppress the data.

Just a few of my experiences with people I know.

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2024 20:06

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 18:45

My best friends Father had the Covid 19 vaccine which caused Myocarditis, so he's unable to have more.
A close family friend went for his 2nd booster, he crashed his car on the way home - Dr's said reaction to vaccine and he now has a heart condition.
Security guard at my work is now disabled from it. He's received a Government's payout.
My elderly neighbour went for his latest Covid booster 3 weeks ago. I was with the paramedics in the Ambulance who said more than likely caused by the Covid jab as they are seeing it so often. He's still in hospital now :-(
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but how anyone can say these Jabs are safe is beyond me now. I have read they are causing extreme clotting of the blood, so much so that as you say, they are pulling them out of veins. I have no knowledge whether it's true at all, the above are my own experiences with people I know.
Obviously if this is happening, the Government will do all they can to hide it from us. A Texan attorney is currently suing Pfizer over its effectiveness.

Incredible how you "know" so many people who have been negatively affected by The Vaccine while most of us don't even know one

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:07

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 08/11/2024 19:41

Well my cousin had the vaccine and two days later her amputated leg grew back. Then a man at my work had it at the weekend and never came back because he started shitting gold ingots and was already a millionaire. My friend's two-year-old is currently at Johns Hopkins because after the vaccine he started working on a cancer cure and he's just cracked it, though big pharmacy is trying to suppress the data.

Just a few of my experiences with people I know.

These are genuine people within my circle. Of course, you are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe. I have no reason to sit and type drivel and lies, nor would I. I'm not a conspiracy theorist nor an anti vaxxer, but these are genuine people I know reasonably well, so yes, I do find it concerning, I'd be batsht not to really. A lot here are Obviously vaxxed to within an inch of their lives and are using misplaced humour out of discomfort, as by now, it's pretty apparent of the side effects. There would be no reason for Government payouts otherwise 🙄

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 08/11/2024 20:08

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:07

These are genuine people within my circle. Of course, you are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe. I have no reason to sit and type drivel and lies, nor would I. I'm not a conspiracy theorist nor an anti vaxxer, but these are genuine people I know reasonably well, so yes, I do find it concerning, I'd be batsht not to really. A lot here are Obviously vaxxed to within an inch of their lives and are using misplaced humour out of discomfort, as by now, it's pretty apparent of the side effects. There would be no reason for Government payouts otherwise 🙄

Are you saying my post wasn't about genuine people I know??

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:11

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2024 20:06

Incredible how you "know" so many people who have been negatively affected by The Vaccine while most of us don't even know one

Incredible it may be, but the above are all absolutely true. This is of course, neighbours, friends Father and a work colleague. My Mum had 2, she's 82 and seems absolutely fine, but yes, unfortunately I do know quite a few who have had adverse reactions, the worst being the work colleague who is now very poorly and on disability. Of course it's concerning. You can beleive me or not. it's of no concern to me.💁‍♀️

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:14

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 08/11/2024 20:08

Are you saying my post wasn't about genuine people I know??

Dont be wasting time messaging me, you hurry now, you'll miss getting a place in the queue for your 10th shot 😂

HippoCamping · 08/11/2024 20:19

@Rainydaysandsundays13

So Sweden - had one of the highest vaccine uptake rates in Europe. You’d think they’d have a huge number of people having adverse reactions.

But that’s not happened??

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/11/2024 20:21

@Rainydaysandsundays13 How do you know the doctors said the crash was because of the vaccine? Were you told? Unless you were actually there, you can’t know, and even if you were there, it’s highly unlikely a medical professional would make such sweeping statements.

Covid infection itself is far more likely to cause long term or permanent complications.

I don’t know a single person who had any serious side effects from the jabs, although I acknowledge they do happen occasionally, just like they do with every medical intervention in history.

Your ‘’ I have no reason to type drivel’’ is unconvincing. Plenty of people knowingly talk and type drivel just because they can, because they enjoy scaremongering others and they want to create distrust of authority because they don’t like the idea that others are more knowledgeable or powerful than them when they don’t understand something. It’s quite common, actually.

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:23

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/11/2024 20:21

@Rainydaysandsundays13 How do you know the doctors said the crash was because of the vaccine? Were you told? Unless you were actually there, you can’t know, and even if you were there, it’s highly unlikely a medical professional would make such sweeping statements.

Covid infection itself is far more likely to cause long term or permanent complications.

I don’t know a single person who had any serious side effects from the jabs, although I acknowledge they do happen occasionally, just like they do with every medical intervention in history.

Your ‘’ I have no reason to type drivel’’ is unconvincing. Plenty of people knowingly talk and type drivel just because they can, because they enjoy scaremongering others and they want to create distrust of authority because they don’t like the idea that others are more knowledgeable or powerful than them when they don’t understand something. It’s quite common, actually.

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😂 knowledge and power

pollymere · 08/11/2024 20:26

The COVID virus itself wreaked havoc in anyone with an underlying heart condition. Mine needed treatment after I had COVID. The thing is - I might have dropped dead with a heart attack later in life had it not been found. I suspect it's actually highlighted pre-existing medical conditions than created novel ones. Unfortunately myocarditis is a known issue with the virus. The vaccination causing these issues is extremely unlikely - it's more likely that people just didn't drop dead because they'd had the vaccine but it still caused damage.

Teddybear23 · 08/11/2024 20:27

I think the vaccine can adversely affect certain people; my friend had one vaccine, the following day had a bleed on the brain and nearly died, another old man I know had the vaccine and within days his legs swelled up and he couldn’t urinate and ended up in A&E. My friend had cancer but had been doing really well, but about two months after the second vaccine her cancer had spread a lot and she died. I’m sure it’s safe for most people but not all.

Over40Overdating · 08/11/2024 20:28

@eyupcocker so all of these clinics are at breaking point specifically due to vaccine injuries? Not just in one department, but several? And undertakers back this up?

After every wave of Covid, especially the ones pre vaccines - from end of 2019 onwards when it was rife but we had no clue what it was - within 6 months there has been a spike in vascular diseases, lung diseases, diabetes, rheumatoid conditions and others diseases because covid is an inflammatory, vascular disease. It is not just a cold or flu. We are still at the very beginning of discovering what damage even mild cases of Covid does to our bodies, never mind repeated infections. That is sinister and worrying enough without adding in conspiracy theories about vaccines.

Many people who now have cancer could have been diagnosed earlier were it not for the impossibility of getting seen over Covid, or the shit show most of us need to perform to get a GP appointment now. That’s not due to the vaccine. Using that as an excuse is a cop out when you could be talking about how badly supported the nhs was then and now.

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/11/2024 20:28

Rainydaysandsundays13 · 08/11/2024 20:23

😂 knowledge and power

Just like you think it’s no coincidence that people get ill after having the jab, I have a much stronger basis to believe it’s no coincidence that every conspiracy theorist I’ve ever met is an utter numbskull. Either that, or they’ve cottoned on to how much money spreading misinformation generates and jumped on it.

Two minutes watching an anti vax video on YouTube has me rolling my eyes and laughing hysterically that people believe the utter fucking shit without engaging their brains 🤣

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2024 20:29

I find it very unlikely a medical professional would state that a vaccine caused a car accident.