My parents love Trump

[Autumn5000]

I'm not from the US but my parents love Trump. I bet they are so so happy about todays win.
I'm bisexual so part of the LGBTQ community. I'm not loud about this but still I feel you should be free to love whoever which Trump is clearly against.
Also the whole abortion thing and Trump being pro life. How can my parents who have a daughter support this man who wants this.
All the wild things he has said they think it's hilarious and agree with everything he says.
What on earth do I do about this? They are my parents but I'm so embarrassed they are. I'm also upset they have these views and openly supports him.

Trump, the sex offender, will protect women?

I literally cannot deal with this much stupid.

My dad is sexist
He thinks I am too much of a feminist and I am sure feels this is why I am single, which he has a point
he has prejudice views about certain nationalities too and has experienced racism
that's who he is and I don't love him any less just find his views annoying at times

The thing is I personally am centre left as is DH but I can see that many people do indeed feel that all the obsession in some political arenas with Trans or LGBT or race alienates many and particularly a lot of older people. We do work for a large American company with a big UK presence too and the sheer amount of box ticking going on admin wise and celebrating this that and the other and pronouns and whatever gets incredibly tiresome - and I'm sure there are plenty of liberal people like ourselves who are fed up of it being rammed down our throats- never mind those who are less liberal - and I think that's what attracts them to a straight talking ( word salad to me) conman crook like Trump. His lack of focus on these kind of issues.

I really don't think it does any party that aren't right wing to go so far down this rabbit hole that they forget their roots and disenfranchise many working and middle class voters who really simply want either their services or wage packets to improve a bit to match the huge increase in cost of living in recent years.

I hate to use the word woke- but maybe a bit less focus on it and a bit more on work /wages and costs would be more beneficial both for most individuals and electorally

I don't agree with prejudice against individuals at all but would we have parades round town associated with 'heterosexual day 'or a music of white origin day ' - no we would not.

I could not understand the American people voting for Trump. There is an excellent article in today’s Times which sets out his policies. I now know why he appeals to so many voters.

Reading his view of what his Presidency will do, I know that you will never persuade your parents against him. He is going to deport and even execute some members of Society.He is going to continue with the wall between Mexico and USA. He says tariffs will protect American jobs. He is going to take back Education into State Control . He is pro-life and anti gay.

if you are a financially secure person who cares only about protecting what you already have, he is the man for you.

He's going to execute people? I mean, maybe it's semantics but they are already on death row. Even the Democrats didn't suggest getting rid of the death penalty.

“Anyone trafficking children across the border will be executed “. I am not debating whether that is a right or wrong policy, just that what he said.

why is this so unlikely?

the right to abortion has been taken away in several states, why is it so "hysterical" to assume that rights for gay people to marry or adopt or similar could be taken away as well?

There's already a thread on here discussing his plans regarding changes to trans healthcare for children.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5204381-president-trumps-plan-to-protect-children-from-left-wing-gender-insanity-how-will-this-affect-the-uk-do-we-think
Regardless of whether you think this is a good idea or not, currently children/young people have a 'right' to request and be given puberty blockers/a mastectomy or whatever, which could be feasibly taken away after changes in legislation or guidance.

So I fail to see how they are wrong from a factual standpoint, even if you disagree with their concerns from an ethical one?

The question that was posed was, ‘what can they do or say to their parents?’ The answer is nothing, because they are policies they agree with.

It's just the principle he is a convicted criminal. It's madness it should not be allowed.

Can understand politics and agree to disagree. But this is beyond that and its really sinister.

He tapped into the American psyche. All the darkest innermost thought that many people were afraid to say out loud now have a powerful voice. It is terrifying.

A bit mean to deprive the OP of their sense of victimhood

I think it's seen me.

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Have you asked them why they favour Trump so much? I've come across this on facebook, English people over a certain age (my sort of age), who believe Trump puts his country first by wanting to stop illegal immigration whereas our government does nothing about 'boat people'. They actually say all that and believe it.

I have said that Trump is not in the least interested in 'his' country, only self-aggrandisement, but they won't have it.

It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

Find out your parents' reasons.

I don’t need to believe the media I can read his Twitter feed and watch his interviews and see this is objective not subjective

I think most right thinking people would be fine with harsher penalties for traffickers. Not sure what I feel about the death penalty though . I would certainly be fine with traffickers being deported though. Who wouldn't be? These people are like the vermin of the human race.

Nothing to do with your parents views but on the why people voted Trump there was a very interesting interview with Patrick Bet-David. It was an easy choice for many because for the first time they had a comparison. Were they better off economically in his previous 4 years in term or under the Biden administration in the last 4 years? It was a no brainer. I can't comment or criticise being a UK citizen or sit here in shock as to why Americans voted for him as I haven't been under either presidency and haven't had to pay bills or know what it was like under both presidents. Easy for us to sit here and criticise but the majority of people vote with their wallet, whether they admit it or not. Forget what they tell their friends.

Couldn't agree more 👌🏻

@Delusional Brilliance

I am actually centre left, very much not into prejudice on a personal basis and pretty liberal - but I totally agree with you on this aspect- itsall gone way too far and those on the left would do well to note that plenty of us who are left leaning economically and socially are fed up of the whole bloody subject dominating agendas- we are more interested in employment/health/housing/education etc

And whether you like him or not Jonathan Pis rant on why the Democrats lost covers this off incredibly well and is bang on accurate

I hate this whole "I don't talk to Tories/ Trumpers" thing. It is basically saying "I only want to speak to people who think like me". That is how we get echo chambers.

I completely agree with this stance and I’m not even religious. I am (obviously) rather conservative in behaviour and views though.

This. We need some ballsy action on trans ideology and gender bullshit in the UK.

It actually royally pisses me off the trans lobby are suggesting that wanting to see an end to children being used and abused by the trans rights lobby and the destruction of women's rights, sports and spaces is one and the same as being homophobic. Horseshit.

Trump knows what a woman is, Farage knows what a woman is,

You bet Trump knows what a woman is. It's someone whose p*ssy he can grab!

Farage is not quite so anti-women in hi personal conduct, but he has expressed sympathy with monsters like Andrew Tate.

The point is that people like Trump and to some extent Farage are not anti-trans because they are worried about women's sex--based rights/ safeguarding.They are anti-trans because they want to go back to a time when sex roles were more strictly defined and women were kept in their place. Many of their supporters are homophobic for the same reason. Trump and his supporters want to restrict women's reproductive rights; they support a macho culture (including guns) that threatens women; there is even a scary number of female misogynists who extol the 'tradwife' movement,;'surrendered wives', etc, and they tend to support Trump.

we don’t want to comfort our broken hearted daughters who fought for a place at the table in sports only to be physically assaulted by a man in front of millions of people

Which could largely be avoided if competitors in female contact sports were placed in size and weight categories, like those in some male sports. You wouldn't want to have your 'flyweight' son in a boxing match with a heavyweight either! But more crucially, do you want to comfort your broken hearted daughters who are regularly beaten up by their male partners and feel unable to escape? Because domestic violence affects far more women than abuse in sport, and JD Vance, for example, has said that women should if possible stay with their husbands even if there is violence.

all the right wing politicians that have been vilified for the left have slowly and quietly been amassing support from across the globe because they aren’t afraid of the leftist extreme. The reason you are seeing so many people “come out of the woodwork” in support of the right is because we have been to afraid to say much! The threats from the left, the accusations of bigotry and hatred. So we were quiet, we spoke in small circles with people we knew wouldn’t vilify us.

In other words, fascist-type attitudes are becoming safer to admit to, because most of us cannot remember the days when fascism ran amok in the world, and the dangers have been to some degree forgotten. Ironically, ACTUAL leftist extremists (meaning Stalin and Mao and their successors. not Biden and Harris and Starmer) have tended to have quite similar social attitudes to the far right. I find such social attitudes truly terrifying, and I hope that enough people also find them terrifying that they will never prevail long-term.

While I agree with most of what you are saying, REAL trans women or men (because don't forget it goes both ways)fit in with the crowd and are not a man in a dress in a woman's toilet. They arn't flexing it in the Olympics beating women. A lot are indistinguishable from born women or men. No genuine trans person walks around broadcasting they used to be male or female..... It's all the none binary nonsense, And attention seekers with no life that's given the public that view. The women with short blue hair and piercings that want to be called they/them. All these men in toilets with beards a dress and a wig is fear mongering, and/or men that are not trans. The trans men fit in more because the transition means their voice goes deep and they grow facial hair etc, ..The media has led us to believe men are pretending to be women hiding in toilets for women and little girls and the reality is men will do that with no disguise if they want... I hate the fact this is being pushed to kids or taught young, but the genuine trans people who suffer this disorder have to take the hate for a large bunch attention seeking idiots who want to be called zee zim, they them.. or hateful people pretending to cause a divide.

He has not said anything about the LGB community? He’s quite pro-gay tbh but has pushed back on trans stuff thankfully

And he’s not supported any sort of abortion ban, much to the chagrin of his Christian supporters btw