My parents love Trump

[Autumn5000]

I'm not from the US but my parents love Trump. I bet they are so so happy about todays win.
I'm bisexual so part of the LGBTQ community. I'm not loud about this but still I feel you should be free to love whoever which Trump is clearly against.
Also the whole abortion thing and Trump being pro life. How can my parents who have a daughter support this man who wants this.
All the wild things he has said they think it's hilarious and agree with everything he says.
What on earth do I do about this? They are my parents but I'm so embarrassed they are. I'm also upset they have these views and openly supports him.

I have never ever ever met a left wing person who wasn't radical in their beliefs, and I feel like I'm surrounded by them.

It's not up to you to police your parents' views. Whether you agree or not they are entitled to think what they want. Do they tell you what to think?

@Lostmyusernametoday "So reductive. You can’t just like a rapist, misogynistic, homophobic, racist and expect your family to say you do you honey"

Depends if you believe any of the propaganda you're fed through the so clearly and obviously biased media, honey.

I echo everything you have written, well said.

Are we going to have loads of threads now of my parents or in-laws like Trump, usually verging on ageist.

I am starting to listen on mumsnet now to the people who have got in bed with the far right for reasons that make sense to them like being gender critical or worried about immigration. I feel rather humbled at the moment. We have sleepwalked into letting people feel that Trump's protectionist, fear- led agenda is the way forward. I know it is not the solution, his presidency will lead to great harm even to his own supporters. But I'm putting aside my grief and sadness and trying to understand how we build a politics where people can talk about what they want in their own lives and cultures and economy and be helped to see the global picture and the real tradeoffs. I have underestimated the depths of hidden right wing feeling.

We all need to start listening and finding a way forward that works for everyone or Trump will happen here.

Trumps mentor and lawyer, Roy Cohn in his early career was gay. I don’t think Trump is anti-gay,

My parents also voted reform in our election.

So .. your parents have the right to vote in the UK and in the USA? If not, I'd focus on what they are actually doing and not that you think they might do if they could.

Just wanted to empathise. That would be hard. In your shoes I would probably only see them at family gatherings and just talk fluff with them on those occasions. Redirect any conversations when they start woking or going on about immigrants. Presumably they have each other for that.

Is there any older mentors in your circle that you can tap into for old age wisdom type advice that you would normally go to parents for? Or you can still come here for relationship type advice and so on. Not everyone is close to their parents.

Just ignore the Trump posters on the thread. They enjoy making people feel upset.

Probably you and your parents are looking at Trump differently to each other. They are seeing a decisive guy who isnt afraid and is a strong character. You are looking at individual points of his policies. Just avoid the topic with them. Ppl have different viewpoints - you have to overcome it unless it's massively impacting you (and I dont see how this is).

Exactly; he said each state to decide. People just the read headlines and don't actually do the research to see if it's true.

Yeah, he's not anti-gay as far as anyone knows and can prove; there's a lot of evidence of his employing and supporting gay men in New York in the '80s when it was controversial/not the norm. He was a Democrat and a big Democratic donor back then. That does not make up for all of his other inegalitarian views and policies, but citing him as anti-gay just feels like an opportunity for his supporters to claim that he is being maligned without regard for the historical record.

DH and I have both been increasingly surprised at how little regard our own parents have for the wider world - including their children and grandchildren - when casting their political votes.

We know we’ll never change their views, but we’ve vowed to allow our own DCs to influence our future voting.

I hope this is sarcastic

This thread is wild. I didn't ask for opinions on trump. My mind won't be changed. I didn't ask for a discussion on trump either.
I stated my parents like him and find him a funny likeable person. I also stated they voted reform.
This is in direct contrast to my beliefs. Trump might be OK with gays I don't know but they don't want to talk about same sex relationships in schools. Anyway I've been through abuse in my life from men, had homophobia, I've luckily had an abortion so I know how luckily I am.
But my parents don't understand people in America won't have these right and just seen a funny man who wants to send immigrants back to where they came. They also feel the same about the UK.
How do I speak to them knowing these are their views. People say just don't talk about it, well yes. But I know in my mind what kind of people they are. It makes me feel angry and upset

You speak to them like they are normal people, because they are.

How should they speak to you, the daughter who doesn’t see them as proper humans because of their views?

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Really great people…and he knows some really great people!

There are various angles here…

1. what does Trump actually stand for
2. what sits behind your parents belief
3. the extremity of your beliefs (and should they unquestioningly support you)

1- he isn’t really anti gay or anti abortion. He sits in a moral grey area. He’s pro free market, a libertarian. He might unwittingly support policies that harm these two areas.

2 - what aspect of what Trump does do your parents like? Everything or some bits? Do they laugh at aspects? It was interesting seeing voters in the US almost to a person say ‘well yes he says some crazy things but on balance…’

3- are you pro life under any circumstance or think actually aborting babies at 14 weeks is more murderous than a pill at 6? Do you want to decapitate JK Rowling? Whatever…. I’m not sure anyone should expect parents to share exactly their views but if they make you uncomfortable/ upset because of how extreme they are - despite your situation - then you have no choice but to distance yourself, which is very sad all round but could be vital for your mental health.

Gender critical is not getting in to bed with the far right - seriously this far right rhetoric is ridiculous.

What rights has he removed?

I don’t hold it against America for voting him in (they have to worry about their food prices etc.) but I would be very upset if my parents loved him as he is an awful man.

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It's really difficult when your parents are politically opposed to you to this extent. I think the main answer is to refuse to discuss politics tbh.

What you might be able to do is to find common ground - eg I'm pleased about government efforts to prosecute the bastard people smugglers who take thousands to put people onto unsafe boats in the Channel. It can be great to find things you agree on. And live your politics and give your parents a chance to show you their good side - eg my brother houses refugees and volunteers for environmental charities, it's always interesting to hear what he's doing and I've donated and got involved because of him.

(BTW I don't think Trump is anti LGB at all, though he certainly won't care if people in his regime are, but yes he's very racist and happy to exploit racism and it's very naive to deny it.).