Could you be with a man who would have voted Trump?

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Just that really.

My husband doesn't love Trump exactly but said tonight he would have voted for him and he hopes Trump will "dismantle the deep state".

Could you be with a Trump voter? Interested in people's views.

If you can’t understand why someone can have a different view to you and still respect them for it, you are very narrow minded and bigoted.

Weird how I've never seen this said to the right-wingers who bang on about the "woke agenda" and "bleeding heart liberals"

https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-letter-school-concerns-racism-fascism

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

One Jewish pupil claimed Farage would sidle up to him and say: “Hitler was right,” or “Gas ’em.” Another claimed Farage had a preoccupation with his initials, NF, as they were the same as those of the National Front.

It's in the public domain! Do you think that NF is going to sue me for libel?

@thepariscrimefiles

It's inevitable someone as outspoken as Farage will pick up enemies with a grudge.

Most of the article is heresay.

No. I don't believe in cult of personality' politics but I think it's important that the party leader shows some moral compass and decency even if flawed. I don't mean zero quibbles over expenses or COVID gatherings or whatever missteps.

Even if I felt weighted in favour of Trump's policies (I do not), I could not condone voting a sexual abuser into office to name but one unacceptable aspect of his behaviour. I would not want to be with a man who thinks this constitutes a suitable leader.

No. It would be a fundamental mismatch of values.

Ditto

No way. Yuk.

My DH actually listened to both the Trump and Vance Rogan podcasts as he had a couple of long drives. He said that Vance especially came across as nothing like the standard media portrayal. I don't know if he'd have voted for them or not but he didn't think they were awful or anything based on that.

I would be disappointed

people will often vote for a party/party leader for many reasons and if we were struggling to make ends meet and both working two jobs and still unable to pay bills as many many Americans are and this was his reasoning why then this is his reason

people don't want to hear rich comfortable politicians, celebrities, podcasters, political commentators etc bang on about how kind as a country we should be to immigrants/refugees, how to live greener lives, how we can all unite to be a better kinder country they want to hear what differences can be made to their own everyday lives so they do not have to live under the stress of constantly being broke, its a miserable way to live and that is too often ignored

If you can’t understand why someone can have a different view to you and still respect them for it, you are very narrow minded and bigoted.

There are people in this world with truly repellent views and we don’t need to respect them for it. It’s fine to have moral boundaries that you won’t cross.

It depends if you are in the US or the UK. US voters voted on the economy,plain and simple, so I could sort of understand why a man could vote for Trump there and not hold it against him particularly if he wasn't particularly politically minded.
However, here we are seeing things at one remove, and largely through the lense of our own media. So given that all we see is Trumps past crimes, the abortion issue etc, I would find it hard to be with a man who is only supporting him based on that.

I broadly agree with this

those voting for Trump know he likes to say inflammatory things to get a reaction. It works. Every time. With most people getting so worked up over every last bit of dribble that comes out of his mouth. Whereas his voters are more focused on what his administration can actually DO for the country. As someone else said upthread, his voters are able to separate out the person from the policies.

however, genuinely asking, how do trump supports feel about the fact that four years ago he literally incited violence to try and overturn the result of the last election? How do people see past that?

JD Vance is a raging misogynist who sees women as broodmares instead of humans
https://www.self.com/story/jd-vance-views-women

Trump is a convicted rapist and is recorded as bragging about sexual assault. I would not be with a man who sees women this way, it goes far beyond policy or left vs. right.

OP my ex got into conspiracy theories (although he wouldn't have voted trump even if he was American) and I found it so deeply unattractive. It felt like he was a child being manipulated and parroting shite, it was horrible. Fortunately our relationship was breaking down anyways and I did in fact become a childless cat lady, and much happier!

So he isn’t allowed his own view? I wouldn’t go out with anyone who didn’t respect my right to my own opinions.

Nope. My mum married one of these (they live in the US). Besides just generally being awful (he has a serious criminal record), her sense of self and underlying values have slowly but surely been chipped away at. She used to be a lively, thoughtful, worldly person with a diverse group of friends. She is now just like a puppet who mimes whatever he says, doesn’t think for herself, is very closed off from the world and fearful, given up most friends unless they are white conservative and from the country club. She has a very small world now. She just got worn down arguing with him, so it was easier to acquiesce for a comfortable life.

When I met Dh, one thing that was really important to me was that we shared similar core values. Absolutely no way I would have dated him otherwise.

Where has anyone suggested he doesn’t have a right to his own opinions?

JD Vance is a raging misogynist who sees women as broodmares instead of humans

I suppose that's why DH preferred to listen himself (3 hours as well) rather than skim an article that uses the word "gross".

Moot point anyway as we're in the UK but I certainly wouldn't fall out with him for having a bit of curiousity about a major global event and the people involved.

I certainly disagree with some of Vance's views on women. But that's no reason to fall out with my own husband for not finding all of the man's views terrible.

He'd happily have listened to the long-form Harris podcast as well - but there wasn't one.

Yes. I would have voted for him. If you still live in a bubble where you don't understand huge corporations run for profit and not the good of humanity and are also in charge of governments worldwide you are deluded.

The article incluses direct quotes from him and calls him "grossly sexist," yes. By all means criticise a slang term instead of your misogynist husband

But he didn't did he? He said 'hey go home in peace and we will challenge perceived injustice in the courts'.

@Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright ’Trump is a convicted rapist’

He is not.
’Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.’

Yes and looking at some of the messes that women get into with their chosen man (and then post a thread about it!) that is the least of your issues.

By all means criticise a slang term instead of your misogynist husband

If my husband was a misogynist I wouldn't be married to him. He's great. Listening to a podcast because he likes Rogan and was curious about the fuss, and then thinking someone came across better than their media portrayal, doesn't make him one. I think I'll keep him.

I could never.

Heck NO