AIBU to ask for help to understand the American Election resul

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I genuinely don't understand why anyone would vote for Trump

If you're American and voted for him or would have voted for him if you lived there can you please explain why?

@Itsmychristmasdress

I'm not sure if I quite understand your question, but in the question of ending one life to save another, in the specific case of a pregnant woman who is carrying a pre viability baby, then if she dies, the baby will die, and if she is to be saved, the baby will also die. There is no way to save the baby, the question is whether you save the mother or not (obviously you should).

The difference is that you didn't begin with the aim of killing the baby, the decision has been taken out of your hands by whatever problem has occurred with the pregnancy. You would like to be able to save the baby, but you can't.

Abortions that don't fall under this category are different because you are going in and killing a baby that would have otherwise survived.

Probably because you don't live there.

Most of your opinion of Trump is probably based on headlines on moral issues like abortion.

Whereas people who actually live there are probably more concerned with their jobs, whether their streets are full of homeless people, what the schools are like, whether they can get medical care, the price of food and fuel etc.

Stuff like that on basic day to day living.

A lot of people would prefer to have more money in their pocket to treat their kids than take a stance on abortion. That's a choice democracy gives them and I would not judge them on that.

This is pretty much it. The Harris campaign never distanced itself from an unpopular Biden administration. People wanted inflation and immigration issues addressed and Harris had little to nothing to offer on that and when asked what she would have done differently from Biden, she actually said "nothing I can think of". You can argue about inflation, but she was part of the administration that changed immigration policy.

Here's a deeper dive on what derailed her campaign.

The Miscalculations That Sent Kamala Harris to a Devastating Loss - Her campaign misread an electorate that was more wound up about inflation and immigration than about Donald Trump’s character

Sure, because native born Americans and legal immigrants never rape children. Makes perfect sense. 🙄

Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

Sure, because native born Americans and legal immigrants never rape children. Makes perfect sense

Every time an immigrant commits a crime, that is a crime that, by definition, did not need to happen.

Crimes committed by locals is your baseline. It takes hard work and good policy to make that go down. But crimes by literal foreigners? Preventable. Utterly preventable.

Particularly the case with illegal immigrants crossing the border with ZERO vetting. When I had to get a work visa in a certain East Asian country, I had to produce clean criminal records from every country I had ever lived in. That’s just to make sure I wouldn’t pose a threat to locals. It makes total sense tbh and the fact this is somehow controversial to you is insane.

I don't disagree with this reasoning actually. What you have said is not controversial to me. Of course they should be vetted. It's just the crazed propaganda about illegal immigrants inherently presenting an increased danger to citizens which I object to. I just don't like lies. I'm funny that way.

No, but it DOESN'T mean 'preserving the most lives we can.' You're fundamentally ignorant of what you're supporting. The 'pro life' laws you support are written in such a way that women will die, and ARE dying, because hospitals aren't allowed to offer life-saving healthcare. So either accept what you're supporting or consider changing your view.

The illiteracy data is the same for the UK.

@hazelnutvanillalatte

Can you give me an example of a state that has a law that doesn't allow doctors to perform a life saving abortion?

It isn't. It's a 1 in 7 in the UK, 1 in 5 in the US.

https://fullfact.org/news/are-one-five-british-adults-illiterate/