To find it hilarious Labour claim to be the progressive party when they’ve only ever elected white men for leader

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We now have the fourth elected (by the party) female Conservative leader. She is also the first black female leader and second person of colour.

Whereas the Labour Party have never voted in a woman or person of colour to be leader in their history. (Acting leader doesn’t count.) And yet people think they’re the more progressive party. I genuinely find it funny.

I just realized there have been more Labour leaders called Keir than there have been female or people of colour lfmao

Everyone's got their own sense of humour I guess. There's a lot more to being progressive than the way your leader looks. While it'd be good for Labour to mix it up (when the time comes, god knows we could do with a bit of boring stability if at all poss) it can be a cover all kinds of very non-progressive shit.

Well given that the Labour Party don’t know what a woman is, I suppose it’s unlikely that they would appoint one as a leader.

You're right, the Conservatives are the most progressive party. Remind me of all the great stuff they've done to help the marginalised in society again.

Well as the Labour party can’t define what a women is, or indeed what a working person is it’s no surprise is it really

Well. It's strange to find it hilarious, but I suppose humour is subjective.
To me, it's less important what sex or background the leader has, than what values the party stands for, and is prepared to implement.

Exactly this.

Totally agree, I mean when did the labour party last have a man as bad as Liz Truss?

Well, that's not at all shallow. I mean, it should be about how competent people are, not what sex or ethnic background they are. Meanwhile Labour have the first ever female Chancellor of the Exchequer, which you 'conveniently' neglected to mention.

How convenient

You also need to consider numbers - Labour have had 5 leaders since 1993. The Tories have had 5 since 2016 (and 10 since 1990).

But broadly, I would agree that it's not great. It doesn't make me think that the Tories care more about equality though.

What a strange response. There's nothing wrong with choosing a party to support based on their values and their policies. I am the parent of two adult disabled children and I have seen what the last government did to disabled and vulnerable people, and what rhetoric they used. That is what I judge the Conservative Party on, and they have a lot of making up to do if they want to change my mind.

Rachel herself has banged on about that enough tbf.

Mhm, because Kemi Badenoch is as progressive as they come.

What have the conservatives specifically done to support and improve the lives of women in general though?

I don't care about a politician's gender or colour of skin, all I care about is their policies, intelligence and ability to give people in this country a better standard of living.

Badenoch said that she think maternity pay/leave is too generous. Hardly the sign of someone who is pro-woman.

Truss was useless and a danger to the economy. Since being kicked out she has come up with one mad statement after another.

Thatcher had a Queen Bee syndrome and did nothing to help other women.

It's not "convenient" by any means. A convenient choice would be someone who would not be particularly competent, but tick boxes, perhaps look and sound good on TV.
Politics isn't about "convenience". It's about leading a government - or an opposition party - effectively.

The political bickering is going to be fun today.

It’s about the quality of the leader, not their gender or skin colour

A woman who has the temerity to note her own achievement? Hardly "banging on", but that's what women have to contend with.
No doubt if Kemi Badenoch refers to her achievement as the first black woman leader of a mainstream party, she'll be criticised for "banging on" (sic).

Diversity and representation is good. Racist, anti LGBT and anti-poor policies are bad. Both of those things are true.

She has mentioned it every chance she has gotten.

Yeah she needs to pipe down.

Meanwhile, she and her idiot education secretary don't mention how they plan to fulfil SEND reform at all.

I don't care that she is a female chancellor. She is being cringe about it.

Being "cringe"? What on earth does that mean?
You don't like Reeves and her policies, fine. Telling her to "pipe down" sounds a bit silly though. Mind you, women have always been told that. No progress there. No doubt Badenoch will find the same.

She has mentioned it publicly 3 times at least from what I've seen. Might as well pat herself on the back. Its weird.

Its strange that Rachel is allowed to applaud herself but it should go without commentary that Kemi is the first black woman to lead any of the major political parties.

Why the disparity?

Notice Kemi hasn't mentioned it?

Welsh Labour elected Vaughan Gething, making him the first black First Minister of Wales and the first black leader of any European country. He was bobbins, but that’s by the by and the current First Minister (albeit elected unopposed because Jeremy Miles decided against standing… a gay male, while we’re talking about protected characteristics) is female - Eluned Morgan. All of which should satisfy your notion of being a progressive political party. Conversely the leader of the Welsh Tories is an arrant, obnoxious white male in his 50s - Andrew ‘Reliable Target’ Davies… Oh and before anyone asks I don’t vote Labour or Tory or Reform…