Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

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Reading it now its horrific. People saying we heard screams- and yet did nothing??? How does a person just think that no im not going to report this, most likely because they cant be bothered/ dont want to be involved. Scum of the earth the dad is. The stepmother ( and her sister!) going on and on about how they feel bad etc and dont do anything!

It's not obvious. If they're not hers, which might/could be shown if she consented, that then directs the investigation somewhere else.

Happy that your daughter's school is like that, most of schools where I live is 'let's learn fronted adverbials at 8 so they are not behind'. Comes down to the choice - if there were different types of provision - some kids learns more in a practical way, some are highly academic, some can't sit all day, all kids would be better off.
My son (the one with tutor) who never has done any 'formal' learning is having a highly structured pigeon clay shooting lessons, where injury potential exists.
The teacher is brilliant with him despite zero formal SEN training because he listened to what we said and how to handle him.
You can't teach this stuff.

Wtf! A child did?

The pathetic excuse of a father has admitted he killed his daughter. The stepmother and uncle either joined in or turned a blind eye with full knowledge ofcthe abuse. The trial will more than likely establish their involvement. The aunt it seems had full knowledge of the horrific abuse and did nothing. All of these adults are guilty in varrying degrees and should receive prison sentences.

Social services completely failed in their responsibilities to safeguard Sara. Concerns were raised by the school but it appears they were not fully investigated. Neighbours knew something was very wrong with this family but it is unclear whether any reports to police were made. A reminder for all of us to go ahead and report any concerns no matter if you have doubts. There is so much that could have been done. If social services had acted on the reports from the school, a simple examination from a Dr would have uncovered the seriousness of her injuries. They should not rely on the child or the family to explain the cause of the injury.

Poor Sara suffered for years and endured sustained physical abuse. There will be children right now suffering similar abuse. How are these children going to be saved? For all our safeguarding laws and training, nothing seems to have changed and children in abusive homes are still in great danger.

Probably Sara's 13 year old brother.

I didn’t do a flounce earlier. I went to do something else and went to bed? It was the middle of the night. Stop harassing me following me around the thread and slandering me, you are part of the group that try and intimidate white people by calling the racist for no reason.

What a load of nonsense, Have some dignity.

It doesn't matter what colour that poor kid was. How you can sit in a house and listen to that and do nothing.

Its not human. A dog would have shown more empathy.

Flounce didn't last long.

Quite right. I don't care about someone's culture, if it slows them to abuse someone it's not worth defending. That said, abusers will abuse. Some of them will hide behind culture and religion to do so. I feel for the majority of Muslims who are decent people who don't abuse their kids.

I hate this epidemic of black and Asian people calling white people racist and making them feel uncomfortable and like they’re walking on egg shells in their own home land

@TheSnugHare
What the fuck are you going on about, you sound ridiculous!!
A little girl has died in horrific circumstances, stop using as an excuse to spout racist crap!

Battered woman syndrome, culture and patriarchy are just excuses . Things abusers hide behind to excuse their abuse. Abusers abuse because they are abusers. Not because of their culture or tragic circumstances .

So many high profile similar cases it has been the step parent that has been the main perpetrator.

Baby Peter
Sebastian Kalinowski
Logan Mwangi
Arthur Labingo Hughes
Star Hobson
Daniel Pelka

When it's the actual parent like this one seems to be, you're surprised!

@LeafcutterAnt in each one the parent also abused the child.
Unfortunately there is another case in the news right now where a boy friend killed a child not his own.
We also don't know the extent of step mums involvement.

Exactly, the same as in this case. The parent was the one who dealt the actual death blows, but until then I would say both parents guilty. I maintain it should be an offense for a partner of an abuser to be allowed to let her children remain in that situation. The parents who let it happen have blood on their hands.

What is your definition of racism, because it certainly isn’t the actual definition

The step parent was the most violent abusive one though and most of them would have lived if the parent had remained solo or met someone who wasn't abusive.

Yes in those cases but the parent was also violent

Also those that were of school age were all attending school. Apart from one, all were known to Social Services.

The girl had bitemarks that don’t match the father or uncle so I assume the stepmother was also violent. Wasnt she the one that ordered the tape from amazon?

Last I read (very old news) was that Surrey County Council asked for all children to be returned but Pakistan was not collaborating. Maybe they have been returned since, but it won’t make the news to protect their privacy.

What tape?

Two were in lockdown