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I have been passive aggressive without knowing......

176 replies

letsallcountsheep · 01/11/2024 11:26

I don't use social media a lot and tend to live in my own little bubble. I had no idea that the thumbs up was passive aggressive 😬

Now I feel like I need to make a lot of apologies 😅 I just saw it as a quick I agree with what was said

OP posts:
Twototwo15 · 01/11/2024 14:28

yeaitsmeagain · 01/11/2024 11:55

No it's always passive aggressive.

Choose another emoji if you don't want to be seen as passive aggressive, like a heart. Even acceptable with strangers and colleagues these days.

Edited

It’s not always passive aggressive. Everyone at my work uses it as a quick “thanks” or acknowledgement of message. No way would I be using a heart to reply to them, that’s ridiculous for a work environment.

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 01/11/2024 14:29

I use it all the time to be 'purposefully dickish'

Pablova · 01/11/2024 14:30

So we’re offended by emojis now ? Christ on a bike.

Those suggesting it is always an indication of passive aggressive are likely to be those who go around permanently offended by
the smallest slight and are seriously lacking in critical thinking.

MrTwatchester · 01/11/2024 14:42

smallchange · 01/11/2024 11:55

Totally context dependent.

If someone wrote you a long and heartfelt spiel about how they felt you'd undermined them in an important meeting and blah blah blah, and you replied 👍, that's dismissive and pass-ag.

If someone says thanks for sending me x doc, 👍 just means "no problem", "you're welcome".

If someone sends you an extra item for the shopping list and you reply 👍, it just means - "seen this".

It's low effort for situations where going to a lot of effort is unwarranted.

What I find incredible in this summation is the idea of anyone thinking it's appropriate to write in a text message a long and heartfelt spiel about being undermined in a meeting. That's far more insane than the posited thumbs up response.

Complicated and sensitive conversations should not happen over texts, or even email, without any kind of face to face connection.

Grmumpy · 01/11/2024 14:57

Peachy..my daughter usually puts I’ll bite when I’ve just put on what I think is a straightforward piece of information. Thanks for your response.

applepipshake · 01/11/2024 15:02

No it's always passive aggressive

LOL no it isnt. Someone texted me asking me to bring home milk the other day and I responded with a thumbs up. So, you are saying I secretly meant "fuck off" or something?

Dont be so bloody ridiculous.

TorroFerney · 01/11/2024 15:02

Grmumpy · 01/11/2024 13:27

Can someone explain what ok I’ll bite followed by a response to a previous message means e.g. what the hell..stamp duty going up just when I’m thinking of buying a flat and I’m a working person
Reply
ok I’ll bite..the country needs money for the nhs so taxes have to go up.

It means to me that I know the op is being a dick for posting something just to get people frothing so although you are replying in good faith and offering your opinion you know that the op is just posting to get a reaction rather than wanting a proper debate. Or they’ve made something up to elicit an all people who get benefits are scroungers reaction or all second home owners are scumbags.

TorroFerney · 01/11/2024 15:05

MrTwatchester · 01/11/2024 14:42

What I find incredible in this summation is the idea of anyone thinking it's appropriate to write in a text message a long and heartfelt spiel about being undermined in a meeting. That's far more insane than the posited thumbs up response.

Complicated and sensitive conversations should not happen over texts, or even email, without any kind of face to face connection.

It’s not just text it’s teams.

TorroFerney · 01/11/2024 15:08

What I would say is that it pales into insignificance compared to the how are you Hard Return and wait messages in teams.

MrTwatchester · 01/11/2024 15:41

TorroFerney · 01/11/2024 15:05

It’s not just text it’s teams.

Same thing—just messages. Completely inappropriate format for that type of conversation.

Jessie1259 · 01/11/2024 15:45

yeaitsmeagain · 01/11/2024 11:55

No it's always passive aggressive.

Choose another emoji if you don't want to be seen as passive aggressive, like a heart. Even acceptable with strangers and colleagues these days.

Edited

This is all only in your world.

PuddlesPityParty · 01/11/2024 15:49

mongoliandoll · 01/11/2024 13:34

I'm curious, what generation do you think uses it in a PA way?

Gen Z - which is my generation.

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:49

Choose another emoji if you don't want to be seen as passive aggressive, like a heart. Even acceptable with strangers and colleagues these days

If a stranger sent me a heart emoji I'd think they were an over familiar twat.

CheerfulBunny · 01/11/2024 15:50

I had no idea about this - but I'd take a thumbs up emoji over 'K' which I hate and really does seem rude. Thankfully it seems to have died a death.

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:53

PuddlesPityParty · 01/11/2024 15:49

Gen Z - which is my generation.

It's also my DCs' generation and they disagree, so it's not generational at all.

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:54

This thread has reminded me that I've been lax in deliberately ending my texts to them with a full stop though.

theduchessofspork · 01/11/2024 15:55

scrimblescramble · 01/11/2024 11:43

If someone sent me a thumbs up in response to a positive message I've sent, I would think they're a dick. It's a very blunt response which can come across quite rude. How hard is it to say 'ok' or 'thanks'

It’s no different to saying Ok or thanks or great

It can of course be sarcastic in some contexts, as saying ok or thanks or great can be

mongoliandoll · 01/11/2024 15:56

PuddlesPityParty · 01/11/2024 15:49

Gen Z - which is my generation.

I'm Gen X, and don't think it's PA.
Both my children are Gen Z and I have just asked them.

PucaBandearg · 01/11/2024 15:56

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:49

Choose another emoji if you don't want to be seen as passive aggressive, like a heart. Even acceptable with strangers and colleagues these days

If a stranger sent me a heart emoji I'd think they were an over familiar twat.

And why is one emoji any better or worse than another? They're all as effortful/effortless as each other.
👍❤️👌🖕😉

Scoobyblue · 01/11/2024 16:23

The world has gone mad and people are just trying to find ways of being offended if this is the case. In my world, it is a quick way of acknowledging something or agreeing with something in a positive way.

Fizbosshoes · 01/11/2024 16:28

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:53

It's also my DCs' generation and they disagree, so it's not generational at all.

Yes I have teen kids and they use it, assume not in a passive aggressive way.

DD messaged me earlier about culinary advice (most messages from uni seem to be "how long will these be ok for/can I cook this from frozen/how long should I cook x for)
I gave my opinion (no full stop) and she replied with a thumbs up! Assumed that just mean ok!

She then sent 2 other messages in quick succession so no insinuation that was me somehow ending the conversation

PuppyMonkey · 01/11/2024 16:29

yeaitsmeagain · 01/11/2024 11:55

No it's always passive aggressive.

Choose another emoji if you don't want to be seen as passive aggressive, like a heart. Even acceptable with strangers and colleagues these days.

Edited

lol.

PuddlesPityParty · 01/11/2024 16:50

SoupDragon · 01/11/2024 15:53

It's also my DCs' generation and they disagree, so it's not generational at all.

Hmm think you’ll find that’s not really how it works.

Also to a PP I use thumbs up normally to my dad because I’m converging the way I’m emoting in text to how he is. If I used it with a friend of the same age, I would not use it as it would be seen as PA.

Pablova · 01/11/2024 16:59

PuddlesPityParty · 01/11/2024 16:54

‘’ Gen Zers are calling out the popular thumbs-up emoji for being “rude” and “hostile,” even saying they feel attacked whenever they see it used in the workplace.’’

Well we better not upset the permanently offended Gen Zers.