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Trick or Treat - AIBU

211 replies

Doseofreality · 31/10/2024 19:37

AIBU in believing that it’s an unwritten rule that you do not Trick or Treat houses that have no Halloween decorations up.

We’ve had numerous bangs (and yes they are bangs) on the door over the past hour, and quite frankly, it’s pissing me off!

OP posts:
MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/10/2024 22:46

That’s definitely the rule here, I had a lit pumpkin out and had lots of trick or treaters knocking but then ran out of sweets so put the decorations away and although there were still plenty of kids out they didn’t come to the door. I did later have one loud knock at about 9pm which I ignored but from the sound of them think that was teens messing about rather than genuine trick or treaters.

wowzelcat · 31/10/2024 22:47

In the States, you could knock on anyone’s door, but you knew the ones who went all out with decorations gave the best swag, so you went for those houses. Not really etiquette but self interest! 😀

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 22:47

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:29

You're changing your story now. Suddenly it's OK to knock on doors if the hall light is on rather than only ok to knock if there are decorations up. Obviously, no lights on suggests nobody is home and kids wouldn't knock then.

Where has my story changed exactly? A kitchen light is completely different to a hall or porch light lighting up a front door!

HoppityBun · 31/10/2024 22:50

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:38

We have elderly neighbours. They all love the kids calling. I don't think there is anyone in the neighbourhood who lives on their own who would struggle to answer. There are a few houses with people who are not originally from Ireland. I was speaking to one recently who has recently moved here and she's really excited about the prospect of Halloween.

If you don't want people calling, you just don't turn the lights on. It's not a problem.

What? If you don’t want people calling you have to sit the evening out in the dark?

Gnomy · 31/10/2024 22:52

Lit pumpkin is the rule in my area. I give lots out and have just escorted DC and friends. There are plenty enough no one goes near those without pumpkins.

In my area we know a lot of neighbours, it’s very much a take ONE rule and don’t be greedy. You’ll still get loads. Be respectful, comment on the decoration, have made some effort with dressing up.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:54

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 22:47

Where has my story changed exactly? A kitchen light is completely different to a hall or porch light lighting up a front door!

How is it different? We have the hall light on all the time once it gets dark. It doesn't indicate anything.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:55

HoppityBun · 31/10/2024 22:50

What? If you don’t want people calling you have to sit the evening out in the dark?

Of course not. Not all lights are visible from the front of the house.

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 22:55

wowzelcat · 31/10/2024 22:47

In the States, you could knock on anyone’s door, but you knew the ones who went all out with decorations gave the best swag, so you went for those houses. Not really etiquette but self interest! 😀

I do think Americans have a unique super energy when it comes to celebrating holidays, I wish I had the energy, I'm a bit envious of it 😂

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 22:59

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:54

How is it different? We have the hall light on all the time once it gets dark. It doesn't indicate anything.

On Halloween it does and everyone in the area knows that. If there's no decorations but a porch light or big hall light that comes through the front doot on its fine, if decorations are out it's fine. If there are lights in the house but there isn't a light on at the front door then no.

So how has my story changed?

Youcantwinthemall · 31/10/2024 22:59

Me and my kids LOVE Halloween- we decorate our house, get loads of sweets in, get epic costumes. We live in an area that goes all out for Halloween. Every single kid (& there’s genuinely hundreds) knows you only knock if there’s decorations. End of. You are not being unreasonable. And it warms my heart seeing the kids understanding that one person’s heaven is another’s hell! I’m sorry you’ve been bothered tonight xxxx

DreamTheMoors · 31/10/2024 23:00

I moved to a much larger city, but in my small town in California, people went to houses where the outside lights - or porch lights - were on.
Off meant either they were out of treats or they weren’t participating.
What infuriated me was people bringing carloads of kids into town from other towns and hitting neighborhoods they thought would hand out “the good stuff.” After that, they’d move on to another neighborhood and another — very selfish and grabby and inappropriate on the parents’ part.

ItsLovelyWeatherForDucks · 31/10/2024 23:09

Doseofreality · 31/10/2024 19:37

AIBU in believing that it’s an unwritten rule that you do not Trick or Treat houses that have no Halloween decorations up.

We’ve had numerous bangs (and yes they are bangs) on the door over the past hour, and quite frankly, it’s pissing me off!

YANBU.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:11

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 22:59

On Halloween it does and everyone in the area knows that. If there's no decorations but a porch light or big hall light that comes through the front doot on its fine, if decorations are out it's fine. If there are lights in the house but there isn't a light on at the front door then no.

So how has my story changed?

Apologies. I just realised you responded to a response I had made to a different poster and I thought you were the poster I had responded to.

And no, there is no reason why a hall light is any different to any other light on. It's certainly not where I live. You are basically making up a rule that you are expecting other people to also know.

Motherland2624 · 31/10/2024 23:14

it did get a bit confusing because it’s Diwali aswell and the kids were so excited they saw the lights and knocked the door
the people didn’t mind though and gave them special Diwali sweets

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:15

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:11

Apologies. I just realised you responded to a response I had made to a different poster and I thought you were the poster I had responded to.

And no, there is no reason why a hall light is any different to any other light on. It's certainly not where I live. You are basically making up a rule that you are expecting other people to also know.

It's a rule that most people know, if you light up your front door on Halloween its an indication to knock. If you have decorations out, its an indication to knock, especially in my area and it seems by another poster, also in places in the US.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:18

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:15

It's a rule that most people know, if you light up your front door on Halloween its an indication to knock. If you have decorations out, its an indication to knock, especially in my area and it seems by another poster, also in places in the US.

And it's not a rule where I live in Ireland 🤷‍♀️

So what you mean is, it's a rule most people in your location know and it's a rule in some other places too. That doesn't necessarily add up to "most people".

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 31/10/2024 23:26

This might sound flippant- it isn’t meant to - but if you have an always-on porch light for security purposes, are you likely to happily switch it off on the night when the streets are busy and a burglar or other ne'er-do-well - in a mask, too - would be able to prowl around without standing out?

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:45

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:18

And it's not a rule where I live in Ireland 🤷‍♀️

So what you mean is, it's a rule most people in your location know and it's a rule in some other places too. That doesn't necessarily add up to "most people".

Edited

It's still a better and more efficient rule than just knocking on any and all doors regardless of decorations or front door light which is what you're advocating because in YOUR area that's what you do, so you don't think it's strange for other areas to do the same.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:50

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:45

It's still a better and more efficient rule than just knocking on any and all doors regardless of decorations or front door light which is what you're advocating because in YOUR area that's what you do, so you don't think it's strange for other areas to do the same.

Edited

And there we disagree...

I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to know about random, unwritten rules. You do 🤷‍♀️.

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:51

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 31/10/2024 23:26

This might sound flippant- it isn’t meant to - but if you have an always-on porch light for security purposes, are you likely to happily switch it off on the night when the streets are busy and a burglar or other ne'er-do-well - in a mask, too - would be able to prowl around without standing out?

I think when it's only for a few hours early evening, one night a year, for many it won't be a big deal. Really by 7.30/8pm, it should be over with. Failing that, leave it on and resort to what I did today and tie your front gate up.

Idontpostmuch · 31/10/2024 23:52

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 22:38

We have elderly neighbours. They all love the kids calling. I don't think there is anyone in the neighbourhood who lives on their own who would struggle to answer. There are a few houses with people who are not originally from Ireland. I was speaking to one recently who has recently moved here and she's really excited about the prospect of Halloween.

If you don't want people calling, you just don't turn the lights on. It's not a problem.

@OchonAgusOchonOh You're right. When I was a child many elderly people welcomed guisers and threw themselves into the spirit (sorry, unintentional) of things. Trick or treating seems such a poor imitation of the Hallowe'en I remember. Excitement started early October and had built to a fever pitch by 31st. Good to hear it's still happening in Ireland. Don't know about my native Scotland. Been living in England for so long.

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:52

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:50

And there we disagree...

I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to know about random, unwritten rules. You do 🤷‍♀️.

Your little rule is to knock on everyone's door no matter who you might be distressing. This is why the majority of people play by the no lights, no decorations, no knock rule.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:57

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:52

Your little rule is to knock on everyone's door no matter who you might be distressing. This is why the majority of people play by the no lights, no decorations, no knock rule.

No. The majority of people where you live may play by your rule. They most definitely don't where I live. I have also never come across anyone who has been distressed by kids knocking on their door at Halloween and I know a lot of people locally.

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:59

OchonAgusOchonOh · 31/10/2024 23:57

No. The majority of people where you live may play by your rule. They most definitely don't where I live. I have also never come across anyone who has been distressed by kids knocking on their door at Halloween and I know a lot of people locally.

Maybe read the thread and see you're in the minority then.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 01/11/2024 00:00

Demonhunter · 31/10/2024 23:59

Maybe read the thread and see you're in the minority then.

Maybe read the thread and realise there are more countries than England.