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Neighbour is a convicted paedophile

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Abitlosttoday · 30/10/2024 21:17

I have just found out that our close (proximity-wise) neighbour has been given a suspended sentence for looking at peadophilia online. His address, in the news report of court proceedings, is not our street but an address in a different town. However, it is him (there's a clear photo) and he has been living on our street with his partner for at least a year. I saw him a few days ago when he pulled his two dogs out of the way so I could pass with my kids. They're 4 and 7. (The kids, not the dogs!) I don't know what to think. It's a small street. I can see into his living room from mine. It's a small town too. His partner is my SIL's sister's boss. I don't know their names though - that's the level of familiarity. Just because my head is battered with half-term and I am exhausted, aibu to ask what your thoughts would be about this situation. All his crimes were online but some of the images were the worst sort.
We only know because another neighbour has a distant work connection to the guy. He may believe he has some anonymity here. I cried when I heard. I'm angry too. My head hurts, but that may also be because of this endless school break!

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MoleAndBadger · 30/10/2024 23:13

Unbelooth · 30/10/2024 23:10

People can take photos, my dear.

He could but my broader point was that so could be many other people - in the park, coffee shop, soft play, on the train, bus ..

Mrsmch123 · 30/10/2024 23:14

If it was my child and my street I would post to the local Facebook group anonymously and let the area deal with it.
Where I live he wouldn't be around for long.

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:15

Unbelooth · 30/10/2024 23:10

People can take photos, my dear.

Photos of children, fully clothed, from afar? What good are they?

Those pictures can be taken at the supermarket, park etc. by all the pedophiles that don't live on the same street.

If hshe isn't letting him come over for tea or baby sitting her kids he's noore of a risk than any other paedophile anywhere else, and there are plenty of them so she should be guarding her kids anyway. I don't see how he is any more of a risk than all the other sex offenders on society just because she knows where he lives.

Lavender14 · 30/10/2024 23:17

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:15

Photos of children, fully clothed, from afar? What good are they?

Those pictures can be taken at the supermarket, park etc. by all the pedophiles that don't live on the same street.

If hshe isn't letting him come over for tea or baby sitting her kids he's noore of a risk than any other paedophile anywhere else, and there are plenty of them so she should be guarding her kids anyway. I don't see how he is any more of a risk than all the other sex offenders on society just because she knows where he lives.

It is awful to say but some paedophiles will take perfectly innocent photos of children and edit them into iioc and distribute as such. So no you do not want someone with that history photographing your child. Same as why people should be cautious putting their child's image on a fb profile pic/ public sm.

Darkblueandgreen · 30/10/2024 23:18

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:15

Photos of children, fully clothed, from afar? What good are they?

Those pictures can be taken at the supermarket, park etc. by all the pedophiles that don't live on the same street.

If hshe isn't letting him come over for tea or baby sitting her kids he's noore of a risk than any other paedophile anywhere else, and there are plenty of them so she should be guarding her kids anyway. I don't see how he is any more of a risk than all the other sex offenders on society just because she knows where he lives.

Again I’m not trying to be flippant but so many parents plaster their children all over social media and those photos can be used in disgusting ways so I would assume a lot, or even most, pedophiles wouldn’t bother taking photos of neighbours/in cafes as it’s much easier to be caught doing that than downloading photos from instagram.

WomenInConstruction · 30/10/2024 23:20

Abitlosttoday · 30/10/2024 22:44

Might get that printed on a t-shirt. So he knows I know. 😂

🤣🤣

WinterMorn · 30/10/2024 23:21

Mrsmch123 · 30/10/2024 23:14

If it was my child and my street I would post to the local Facebook group anonymously and let the area deal with it.
Where I live he wouldn't be around for long.

Then I would hope that anyone involved in the intimidation and injury that you are suggesting got charged and convicted.

DyslexicPoster · 30/10/2024 23:22

I know by association a convicted paedo who has multiple assault charges against him. He is a direct serious sexual abuser of todflers to teens who is a opertunist. If he had 30 seconds alone with my daughter he would rape her. So what I'd do if I lived near him is tell my kids to avoid him, I'm tell them he is is dangerous and if he so much looked at him to scream loudly. So they would'nt be easy pickings for him. I'm sure others might be more understanding or forgiving but I know what was disclosed at court. Its too graphic for any paper to publish. He must have done gateway crimes first. You don't just wake up one day and rape your neighbours three year old. Because he did. Rape his neighbours three year old. She wasn't the first or last, just the first time he was caught. Nice family man with two little girls of his own

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:23

Lavender14 · 30/10/2024 23:17

It is awful to say but some paedophiles will take perfectly innocent photos of children and edit them into iioc and distribute as such. So no you do not want someone with that history photographing your child. Same as why people should be cautious putting their child's image on a fb profile pic/ public sm.

And they can take those photos at parks, on any street the child is walking down etc.

Either children need to be hidden from paedophiles everywhere, because they are everywhere, or it doesn't matter that a paedophile lives nearby because he has no more access to the children than a paedophile at the park or the supermarket, and they absolutely are at the park and the supermarket.

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:24

Darkblueandgreen · 30/10/2024 23:18

Again I’m not trying to be flippant but so many parents plaster their children all over social media and those photos can be used in disgusting ways so I would assume a lot, or even most, pedophiles wouldn’t bother taking photos of neighbours/in cafes as it’s much easier to be caught doing that than downloading photos from instagram.

Exactly. It really shocks me how many parents plaster pictures of their kids all over social media. They have no idea who is doing what with photos of their kids.

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:28

DyslexicPoster · 30/10/2024 23:22

I know by association a convicted paedo who has multiple assault charges against him. He is a direct serious sexual abuser of todflers to teens who is a opertunist. If he had 30 seconds alone with my daughter he would rape her. So what I'd do if I lived near him is tell my kids to avoid him, I'm tell them he is is dangerous and if he so much looked at him to scream loudly. So they would'nt be easy pickings for him. I'm sure others might be more understanding or forgiving but I know what was disclosed at court. Its too graphic for any paper to publish. He must have done gateway crimes first. You don't just wake up one day and rape your neighbours three year old. Because he did. Rape his neighbours three year old. She wasn't the first or last, just the first time he was caught. Nice family man with two little girls of his own

Surely the moral of the story is never leave your three year old with your neighbour, regardless of who they are or how nice you think they are?

The majority of people who sexually abuse children having their parents trust to get access to the children or are related to them, so don't give people access to your kids! You don't know
what anyone is capable convicted or not.

NoisyDenimShaker · 30/10/2024 23:28

At least you know, so that you can reject any overtures of friendliness from him and just generally keep out of his way, like not exchanging pleasantries when you pass. I don't think there's much else you can do. I can see how it's unnerving, given the age of your kids.

Mama2many73 · 30/10/2024 23:31

Ofcourse i wouldn't be happy but as PP have said what is your option, moving house?
I can remember watching the Shannon Matthews documentary and in a 25 mile radius of her home there were more than 1500 sex offenders and thinking they could be next door and uou might never ever know.
You know and are therefore forewarned.

alcohole · 30/10/2024 23:34

I’m not sure what you can do really aside becoming hyper vigilant with your kids. So don’t have them walking around outside unattended. It’s likely he wouldn’t approach your children if they’re accompanied so your biggest risk is when your children become more independent as they get older. Maybe don’t have them walk eg to school, try to drive in the first instance. I appreciate though that this will get more difficult the older they get and they’ll likely want some independence - so it’s a risk. It may be hard to find the balance of protecting them vs restricting them.

You’ll have to immediately have an age appropriate chat with them about stranger danger and what to do if they’re scared or if someone approaches them.

In the near future, maybe get some cameras set up outside your house to monitor anything untoward like him staring into your windows. In a best case scenario, have your kids in garden-facing bedrooms if possible? Sometimes kids don’t think about windows when they’re getting dressed etc. But again, you can’t completely change your life to accommodate him. Ultimately if you have concerns then contact the authorities. There’s only so much you can do alone, and you don’t want to live in fear 24/7.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 30/10/2024 23:34

MoleAndBadger · 30/10/2024 21:43

I genuinely don't understand the strength of your reaction. He's not a threat to your children and presumably won't have access to them.

There are so many people who have criminal records and many more who are committing illegal acts but simply haven't been caught / you don't know about.

I'm more concerned with neighbours/teachers/family members/police/doctors etc. We tend to trust certain professionals without asking enough questions. I'd rather spend time considering how we raise kids to be aware and alert to danger without putting the fear of god into them and labelling every stranger as dodgy!

There are so many people who have criminal records and many more who are committing illegal acts but simply haven't been caught / you don't know about.

That is irrelevant. He’s not some random shoplifter or TV-licence dodger. This specific man, living next door to OP and her children, has paid to have children sexually abused for his amusement. He is very unlikely to have changed his character, and the trivial penalty, a suspended sentence, is no deterrent. He is a threat.

Mrsmch123 · 30/10/2024 23:34

WinterMorn · 30/10/2024 23:21

Then I would hope that anyone involved in the intimidation and injury that you are suggesting got charged and convicted.

No need to cause injury. Just a gathering of people....police come....he gets moved.....the end

congolongalee · 30/10/2024 23:34

I've had this exact problem and it's awful - I think we will definitely move within the next few years as we have a young child and it's just not something you want to have to think about!

We bought a new house, neighbours seemed fine then find out from another school parent that their son was in prison for raping a teenager. He didn't live there at the time but we started seeing him about more often and now it's clear he lives there. We were (and still are) absolutely gutted as it was a big move for us to a much nicer area allegedly!

We did put in a Sarah's law but the police couldn't really tell us anything we didn't already know (was in the news and was caught by a vigilante group) although the police officer did give us her number to report anything if we had concerns. I completely get where you're coming from but we've accepted that for now that there isn't really anything we can do. we just have to deal with it but it has definitely hastened our plans to move. If you have genuine concerns then definitely get in touch with the police - he will have to keep them updated with any changes in address etc.

Pussycat22 · 30/10/2024 23:34

Darkblueandgreen , vile. They're not wired up properly.

Darkblueandgreen · 30/10/2024 23:35

Mama2many73 · 30/10/2024 23:31

Ofcourse i wouldn't be happy but as PP have said what is your option, moving house?
I can remember watching the Shannon Matthews documentary and in a 25 mile radius of her home there were more than 1500 sex offenders and thinking they could be next door and uou might never ever know.
You know and are therefore forewarned.

And that’s just the ones the police know about! Honestly, I know it’s a shock to the op, but she’s in a great position knowing where one pedophile lives so she can keep her children away from him because most of us have no idea where they are and what connection they have with children we have or love or know.

Greyrocked · 30/10/2024 23:37

I would probably ring probation just to check that they know where he is living so that any bail conditions regarding children are being met. No idea if there any likely to be any but just so I felt I’d done my part. I would also tell my children (and any family who might care for my kids occasionally) that he was someone they should not trust because he was a criminal.

BalletCat · 30/10/2024 23:38

Mrsmch123 · 30/10/2024 23:34

No need to cause injury. Just a gathering of people....police come....he gets moved.....the end

What are you on about? That's still intimidationa Nd the police can't make him move just because you had a gathering 🙄

WinterMorn · 30/10/2024 23:40

Mrsmch123 · 30/10/2024 23:34

No need to cause injury. Just a gathering of people....police come....he gets moved.....the end

Yes, because there is no possibility of it getting out of hand is there…….?

WinterMorn · 30/10/2024 23:41

Greyrocked · 30/10/2024 23:37

I would probably ring probation just to check that they know where he is living so that any bail conditions regarding children are being met. No idea if there any likely to be any but just so I felt I’d done my part. I would also tell my children (and any family who might care for my kids occasionally) that he was someone they should not trust because he was a criminal.

If he is on probation he won’t have bail conditions, unless he is being investigated for a different offence. Bail is pre-conviction.

NoisyDenimShaker · 30/10/2024 23:43

DyslexicPoster · 30/10/2024 23:22

I know by association a convicted paedo who has multiple assault charges against him. He is a direct serious sexual abuser of todflers to teens who is a opertunist. If he had 30 seconds alone with my daughter he would rape her. So what I'd do if I lived near him is tell my kids to avoid him, I'm tell them he is is dangerous and if he so much looked at him to scream loudly. So they would'nt be easy pickings for him. I'm sure others might be more understanding or forgiving but I know what was disclosed at court. Its too graphic for any paper to publish. He must have done gateway crimes first. You don't just wake up one day and rape your neighbours three year old. Because he did. Rape his neighbours three year old. She wasn't the first or last, just the first time he was caught. Nice family man with two little girls of his own

With that kind of conviction, how is he allowed to live with his kids? If a mother had a serious child-abuse conviction to her name, her child would be taken into care immediately after birth.. Isn't there some kind of law against someone with such serious convictions against children living with children, including their own?

PassingStranger · 30/10/2024 23:43

Abitlosttoday · 30/10/2024 21:26

I don't think I can do anything. I am wondering what other people would think and feel about this as I have been rather blindsided by it. I'm living 50 yards from a convicted peadophile with two small children. I'm not a gossip, which is why I am on an anonymous forum and not the town Facebook page. It's him, he has a face, it's in the paper.

Do you think your the only one.
Try having one you were related to by marriage being one and navigating that.
Ex FIL was a pedo, dirty bastard.