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Neighbour is a convicted paedophile

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Abitlosttoday · 30/10/2024 21:17

I have just found out that our close (proximity-wise) neighbour has been given a suspended sentence for looking at peadophilia online. His address, in the news report of court proceedings, is not our street but an address in a different town. However, it is him (there's a clear photo) and he has been living on our street with his partner for at least a year. I saw him a few days ago when he pulled his two dogs out of the way so I could pass with my kids. They're 4 and 7. (The kids, not the dogs!) I don't know what to think. It's a small street. I can see into his living room from mine. It's a small town too. His partner is my SIL's sister's boss. I don't know their names though - that's the level of familiarity. Just because my head is battered with half-term and I am exhausted, aibu to ask what your thoughts would be about this situation. All his crimes were online but some of the images were the worst sort.
We only know because another neighbour has a distant work connection to the guy. He may believe he has some anonymity here. I cried when I heard. I'm angry too. My head hurts, but that may also be because of this endless school break!

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Another2Cats · 31/10/2024 13:55

Unbelooth · 30/10/2024 22:10

are risk managed on a need to know basis

What on earth are you talking about? Convictions are in the public sphere. Many of these convicted men (yes it's nearly always men) are banned from living near schools, or accessing places such as pubs, restaurants, and their own extended family homes, where there may be children present, without informing the police. Is that "driving them underground"?

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"Many of these convicted men (yes it's nearly always men) are banned from living near schools, or accessing places such as pubs, restaurants"

I think you'll find that this isn't correct.

"...and their own extended family homes, where there may be children present, without informing the police."

That's generally only if they stay in that home for at least 12 hours in one go.

Neighboursfromhell · 31/10/2024 13:56

Carry on and don't think about it too much. You'd be horrified if you realised how many there are and how prevalent they are all over the place.

Ozanj · 31/10/2024 14:05

If you can see into his living room then he can probably see into yours. I’d you restrict your dc’s activities at the front of the house. Discourage your kids from being friendly. You can tell the police of your concerns as he’s so close he can see into your house - they can give you some practical advice.

Unbelooth · 31/10/2024 14:07

Another2Cats · 31/10/2024 13:55

"Many of these convicted men (yes it's nearly always men) are banned from living near schools, or accessing places such as pubs, restaurants"

I think you'll find that this isn't correct.

"...and their own extended family homes, where there may be children present, without informing the police."

That's generally only if they stay in that home for at least 12 hours in one go.

I mis-typed. They have to inform the place they are going that they are convicted, and give that place the opportunity to speak to the police about it.

Abitlosttoday · 31/10/2024 14:11

Getitwright · 31/10/2024 13:47

The OP states…….

“We only know because another neighbour has a distant work connection to the guy.”

”His partner is my SIL's sister's boss.”

This has prompted a search for addresses, possibly names, photos. This is how vigilantism starts. Little trickles of information, not fully substantiated, shared amongst other groups, tiny further snippets of information might get added, it grows a tail here, a set of horns there. As others have said, if there are worries, there are proper channels to go through. It only takes one macho fool, one over enthusiastic social media user to cause a great deal of harm, when checking things out via the proper channels would be far better. Folks have a right to be wary, particularly if children might be involved. But strong facts will protect everyone better.

I have the link to the court report in the regional paper, published this month, which features his photo. I am not a vigilante or an idiot. I don't read the paper habitually. I only saw it because our other neighbour brought it to our attention.

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user1471516498 · 31/10/2024 14:19

Ok, practical tips here. Blinds in your front window if possible, or if not you either ban the children from the front room or always keep the curtains closed. Children are not allowed out unaccompanied at all, ever. Also,no going to other houses in the area without you, in case he is there.

Another2Cats · 31/10/2024 14:23

Unbelooth · 31/10/2024 14:07

I mis-typed. They have to inform the place they are going that they are convicted, and give that place the opportunity to speak to the police about it.

I still think that you will find that is not the case. I really do not believe that any SHPO would include terms like "Must inform Tescos of his conviction before being allowed to shop there" or "Must inform local council that he intends to walk in the park or use a public library".

It may possibly be the case with a very few offenders who cannot be managed otherwise but, in general, terms like this are not put in SHPOs.

Unbelooth · 31/10/2024 14:25

Another2Cats · 31/10/2024 14:23

I still think that you will find that is not the case. I really do not believe that any SHPO would include terms like "Must inform Tescos of his conviction before being allowed to shop there" or "Must inform local council that he intends to walk in the park or use a public library".

It may possibly be the case with a very few offenders who cannot be managed otherwise but, in general, terms like this are not put in SHPOs.

Literally my next-door neighbour's son. Who has now appealed and had the order lifted.

So now he can go to university.

Another2Cats · 31/10/2024 14:29

Unbelooth · 31/10/2024 14:25

Literally my next-door neighbour's son. Who has now appealed and had the order lifted.

So now he can go to university.

"Who has now appealed and had the order lifted."

That makes a lot more sense. Sometimes, weird things do get added on to SHPOs. If the defending barrister doesn't pick it up at the time then the police can sometimes push to get all sorts of things added.

The fact that the appeal was successful shows that those terms should never have been included in the first place.

BalletCat · 31/10/2024 14:52

user1471516498 · 31/10/2024 14:19

Ok, practical tips here. Blinds in your front window if possible, or if not you either ban the children from the front room or always keep the curtains closed. Children are not allowed out unaccompanied at all, ever. Also,no going to other houses in the area without you, in case he is there.

Utterly ridiculous. Ban the children from the front room!? Keep the curtains shut at all times!? Who doesn't let their children in the half the rooms if their house because they are at the front!?

She already said he can't see into their front room because they look down into his front room as they are on a hill. Read the full thread or at least read all of the OPs posts, theres no need for such hysteria.

Don't let him babysit your children, don't go to his house, don't let him in your house. Once you've enacted those three things, he is then no more of a risk than any other paedophile living in any other house, any where in the toewn, of which there are plenty so keep your children safe and protected all the time anyway.

WiddlinDiddlin · 31/10/2024 15:11

Quite @BalletCat ... I mean why not go the whole hog and just lock the children in a small secure trunk. That way the paedo will never clap eyes on them.

I mean they'll have an absolutely shite childhood but who cares as long as the filthy paedo doesn't get a glance at them.

Gimmeabreak2025 · 31/10/2024 15:15

Abitlosttoday · 30/10/2024 21:26

I don't think I can do anything. I am wondering what other people would think and feel about this as I have been rather blindsided by it. I'm living 50 yards from a convicted peadophile with two small children. I'm not a gossip, which is why I am on an anonymous forum and not the town Facebook page. It's him, he has a face, it's in the paper.

Make sure your kids know who he is and know to keep well away.

Watbtisoi · 31/10/2024 15:28

Out him on the local FB page. He'll not be there long.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 31/10/2024 15:42

Are all your neighbors behaving as hysterically as you?

HonestPayforHonestWork · 31/10/2024 15:56

This thread is disturbing. Why so defensive over paedophiles? Statistically there’s one on every street, and many have partners. Makes you wonder. Seems more apt to not be interested in the thread at all given how ‘hysterical’ it is to be worried about a paedophile neighbour convicted of pleasuring himself to images of the worst category. I think that’s something to be worried about, but no let’s all rush to defend him and vilify the OP.

Abitlosttoday · 31/10/2024 16:04

AgainandagainandagainSS · 31/10/2024 15:42

Are all your neighbors behaving as hysterically as you?

Neighbours, with a 'u', love. Your poor spelling is certainly giving me the vapours.

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Kibble29 · 31/10/2024 17:13

Abitlosttoday · 31/10/2024 16:04

Neighbours, with a 'u', love. Your poor spelling is certainly giving me the vapours.

They’re maybe American; that’s how they spell “neighbours”.

Kibble29 · 31/10/2024 17:13

Watbtisoi · 31/10/2024 15:28

Out him on the local FB page. He'll not be there long.

You’ll get a lot of shit for posting that, but not from me.

Getitwright · 31/10/2024 17:15

I don’t think I accused you of being a vigilante or an idiot, just stated that not having the proper facts, posting on social media can quickly escalate if the wrong kind of people get incorrect information.

I have no sympathy whatsoever ever with anyone convicted of looking at pornographic images or worse.

Boomer55 · 31/10/2024 17:19

Just get on with your life. Don't get involved in gossip, speculation etc, A lot of roads contain male and female sexual offenders. I used to work in that field, so I know this.

Just keep your own kids safe.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 31/10/2024 17:45

Kibble29 · 31/10/2024 17:13

They’re maybe American; that’s how they spell “neighbours”.

Yeah quite. Anything to distract attention from the question ehh?

mommatoone · 31/10/2024 17:55

Watbtisoi · 31/10/2024 15:28

Out him on the local FB page. He'll not be there long.

What a great idea, then you will have a convicted sex offender on the run cos no one knows where he is! Ridiculous. OP- you now know about this guy and his conviction. This provides you with the opportunity to safeguard your children even more than you would in general. If he is on the Sex offenders register , that means the police will know where he is etc.

converseandjeans · 31/10/2024 17:58

@Getitwright

But strong facts will protect everyone better.

I don't think newspapers would be able to publish gossip about someone like this. So presumably the facts are strong. Why are you defending someone who has been found guilty?

JMSA · 31/10/2024 18:11

OP, I sympathise. But at least you're aware and don't need to have anything to do with the perverted bastard him.
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