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To worry about sweets from trick or treating…

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Backtoblack87 · 29/10/2024 22:38

Just had a horrible thought… when we go trick or treating, what if we are given dodgy sweets? I mean I know it isn’t likely but unless you know everyone you go to, how can you guarantee they aren’t giving your kid drugs?! Does this worry anyone else?!

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Shoppedatwoolworths · 30/10/2024 01:09

hamsterchump · 30/10/2024 01:02

Got any sources? It is harmful because it's just fear mongering and contributes to our ridiculously anxious society especially when it comes to our children. Children may be more protected than ever physically but their mental health is in the toilet.

Sources? This isn’t a thesis haha! Other people have already posted links throughout the thread. Otherwise just google? There are hundreds of articles from various news outlets.

Emsy80 · 30/10/2024 01:10

Backtoblack87 · 29/10/2024 22:38

Just had a horrible thought… when we go trick or treating, what if we are given dodgy sweets? I mean I know it isn’t likely but unless you know everyone you go to, how can you guarantee they aren’t giving your kid drugs?! Does this worry anyone else?!

For everyone saying you're paranoid, you're not. BUT it's highly unlikely your kids will knock on to that random delusional mental who's injecting crack in to haribos. I live in a fairly rough area but luckily we all know each other so we know who to go to and who to avoid. Try to work out who's got kids themselves and go to them. Or stay home and make some games up instead. Amazon do them for a couple quid and let them win their own prizes.
P.s. it's not the dealers that would do it 🙄 they aint wasting their money, it's the absolute mentals of this world.

PointsSouth · 30/10/2024 01:12

BarbaraHoward · 29/10/2024 22:52

That's not what the trick refers to. The trick is the children doing a turn for their treat.

That would be trick AND treat.

Who told you that?

oakleaffy · 30/10/2024 01:12

PodgePie · 30/10/2024 00:59

In what world do drug dealers give their stash away for free? And where on earth do you live that you have this assumption about your neighbours?

Even the cozily middle class Acid Lab ( Seymour Road Hampton Wick, Kingston Upon Thames ) wouldn’t have given it away for free!

The house still stands, but a carpet in the house famously caused policemen to trip out.

operationjulie.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/23-seymour-road-hampton-wick-london-henry-todd-brian-cuthbertson-and-andy-munro/

hamsterchump · 30/10/2024 01:12

Shoppedatwoolworths · 30/10/2024 01:09

Sources? This isn’t a thesis haha! Other people have already posted links throughout the thread. Otherwise just google? There are hundreds of articles from various news outlets.

No they haven't because no there aren't beyond sensationalist articles telling parents to "be vigilant" with no actual, material evidence. Not of actual instances beyond the one intentional poisoning by a parent (so not at all relevant) on which all the urban legends are based. Making stuff up and spreading misinformation is harmful, please please stop doing it. There are enough real things to worry about we really don't need to make up more.

yipyipyop · 30/10/2024 01:22

You've watched too much American true crime

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 30/10/2024 01:23

Shoppedatwoolworths · 29/10/2024 23:19

I cannot believe how everyone is telling OP they’re being ridiculous when this exact, or very similar, thing happens every single year…

Please show some articles that have this as a fact and not rumor.

Since the time of the dude with the Pixie Stick cyanide, rumors have abounded but the number of actual incidents, at least here in the USA are quite low. And, like the cyanide dud, some have been done by parents for various reasons.

Check their treats and toss any you think may be off or anything not wrapped. In the US, there are police depts. who will xray the candy for parents POM, though nothing has ever been found in any area by me

Shoppedatwoolworths · 30/10/2024 01:25

hamsterchump · 30/10/2024 01:12

No they haven't because no there aren't beyond sensationalist articles telling parents to "be vigilant" with no actual, material evidence. Not of actual instances beyond the one intentional poisoning by a parent (so not at all relevant) on which all the urban legends are based. Making stuff up and spreading misinformation is harmful, please please stop doing it. There are enough real things to worry about we really don't need to make up more.

I am not spreading harmful misinformation, you ignorant person.

These are just the first couple of articles of actual incidents that did happen, not sensationalist rumours to add a touch of excitement to Halloween or cause your kids mental health to deteriorate.

Nobody is telling you to be anxious as thankfully there are more good than bad people in the world, but don’t be so naive or ignorant to insist things like this never happen, and at least check what your kids are going to eat.

US: razor found in candy: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/multiple-razor-blades-found-hidden-childrens-halloween-candy/story?id=92584731

UK: man accidentally gives kids cocaine instead of pick and mix: https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/19/police-children-cocaine-mistake

Melbourne: 3 year old girl’s Halloween pick and pix “accidentally” had prescription medication in: https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/bacchus-marsh-child-hospitalised-after-ingesting-unexpected-object-while-out-trick-or-treating/news-story/f30013300a87cb5ec46641d2fb6dee5c?amp

Tyneside 2018: 2 and 5 year old girls given a bag of ecstasy: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/halloween-sweets-ecstasy-mdma-pills-drugs-trick-treat-police-tyneside-northumbria-a8612291.html

Multiple razor blades found hidden in children’s Halloween candy as authorities search for suspect

Multiple razor blades have been found hidden in children’s Halloween candy and authorities have narrowed down their hunt for a suspect to a small neighborhood.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/multiple-razor-blades-found-hidden-childrens-halloween-candy/story?id=92584731

FancyBeaker · 30/10/2024 01:29

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Teanbiscuits33 · 30/10/2024 01:33

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🤣🤣🤣

Shoppedatwoolworths · 30/10/2024 01:35

@Pureasthedrivensnowww this is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on mumsnet! I hope it’s true 😂😂😂

Notaurewhy · 30/10/2024 01:39

Kibble29 · 29/10/2024 23:33

Or before they start telling that joke about crossing a vampire with a snowman and getting frostbite. Away with you!

It's an oldie but a goodie, I am going to revive that!

Notaurewhy · 30/10/2024 01:40

Teanbiscuits33 · 30/10/2024 01:33

🤣🤣🤣

Brilliant 🤣🤣

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 30/10/2024 01:44

PointsSouth · 30/10/2024 01:12

That would be trick AND treat.

Who told you that?

From The Irish News:

"A practice called 'guising' was in full swing in Scotland and Ireland. Short for 'disguising', children would go out from door to door dressed in costume and rather than pledging to pray, they would tell a joke, sing a song or perform another sort of "trick" in exchange for food or money."

The trick is from the child, the treat is what they receive (this transaction is the origin of where the phrase now commonly used comes from)

Should add, I went around the houses at Halloween in the 1980s before the phrase "trick or treat" started to be used here in Ireland. We used various interjections at the door. Per the same Irish News source in 2014:

"The expression trick or treat has only been used at front doors for the last 10 to 15 years. Before that "Help the Halloween Party" seems to have been the most popular phrase to holler."

Starseeking · 30/10/2024 01:46

Only accept sweets in sealed bags and nothing homemade and you'll be fine.

I wouldn't give this a further thought.

PodgePie · 30/10/2024 01:54

oakleaffy · 30/10/2024 01:12

Even the cozily middle class Acid Lab ( Seymour Road Hampton Wick, Kingston Upon Thames ) wouldn’t have given it away for free!

The house still stands, but a carpet in the house famously caused policemen to trip out.

operationjulie.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/23-seymour-road-hampton-wick-london-henry-todd-brian-cuthbertson-and-andy-munro/

So we should all be terrified about trick or treating based on a case from 1977?

oakleaffy · 30/10/2024 01:55

Teanbiscuits33 · 30/10/2024 01:33

🤣🤣🤣

I joke that mini Cheddars and Twiglets have heroin in them
Can’t stop eating the salty blighters once a packet is opened.

knitnerd90 · 30/10/2024 01:55

Millions of children do it in the USA & Canada every year. 90% of the stories turn out to be urban legends and false rumours.

The cannabis edibles in packaging that mimics brand name sweets are real and children have mistakenly eaten them in the USA (they're legally sold in some states). There's a pretty active debate about them and some companies are cracking down on the trademark violations. But I can't imagine people would give them away on purpose. They're expensive.

CrowleyKitten · 30/10/2024 02:01

they've been spreading this rumour for about forever.
the only cases of children being given contaminated sweets at halloween were traced back to family members (think there was a case in America where a little girl died. forget the details, but it was sherbet sticks, and it was either the uncle or the dad that did it)
as for things like Cannabis edibles.

WHY?

it's not my thing, but
A. they're expensive. if people have them, they're not sharing.
B. what would giving them out acheive? nobody is going to think, oh, the sweets I got from THAT house made me have interesting feelings, so I'm heading round there with my pocket money for more.

CrowleyKitten · 30/10/2024 02:02

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is your child named Superhans?

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 02:10

Giving free drugs to kids in this economy? Hahaha

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 30/10/2024 02:13

Bibi12 · 29/10/2024 23:59

Let me explain again. Halloween etiquette means children should only knock on doors that they are invited to - decorations and lit pumpkins outside.
If someone knocks on random stranger's doors they are breaking the rules and that can be very unpleasant. However most children know and respect the rules so they don't go "begging ", they participate in mutal fun with their willing neighbours.

The decorations thing is not compulsory (unless that's a new thing).

The lights being on at the door is the more general sign for kids that they are welcome. Lights out means no-one is handing out anything.

In the century plus that this has been a Scottish/Irish custom it was the kids carrying the lanterns (initially made out of turnip, more recently pumpkin) to the door of homeowners.

This describing guisers in Scotland from 1895:

"I had mind it was Halloween . . . the wee callans (boys) were at it already, rinning aboot wi’ their fause-faces (false faces) on and their bits o’ turnip lanthrons (lanterns) in their haun (hand)."

CrowleyKitten · 30/10/2024 02:14

Shodan · 29/10/2024 23:09

It's not for nothing.

The littles get all dressed up in costumes and they're very cute.

I look on a little bag of Haribo or a treat size chocolate as fair payment for giving me a little bit of joy on a dark winter's evening.

it's the one day of the year when I find children from outside of my family cute. I love giving them lots of treats and a bit of a fun scare too.
years back, when the village we lived in really went for it, I'd even send the parents away with cups of my spicy pumpkin soup, especially in bad weather. and made up goodie bags for the smalls. and got dog treats in for the dogs. everyone got treats.

CrowleyKitten · 30/10/2024 02:19

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 29/10/2024 23:24

Does it? I don’t recall it being on the news.

I think there's only been one case I've ever heard of from a legitimate source, and that was, my memory is sketchy , traced back to either the father or the uncle. it was the sherbet sticks. never heard of another incident, and that one was a LONG time ago.

CrowleyKitten · 30/10/2024 02:24

Hyperbowl · 29/10/2024 23:25

Halloween is a celebrated day throughout the world with roots in religion and culture that date back hundreds of years. Of which people can choose to partake in or not.

For years round here the message that is given on social media and by word of mouth is that you go to people’s houses who are clearly participating ie decorated or has signs to say trick or treaters welcome. Plenty of people also have signs to say they’re not welcome but I have yet to see children knock on doors of people that aren’t clearly taking part. Most children are respectful of other people’s peace and privacy and those that wouldn’t be generally are those who wouldn’t be any other night of the week either. I live in a very rural place so if we can convey this message to our children then there’s no reason anyone else can’t.

Not remotely the same as them begging as the act of begging usually means being hassled randomly for gains and are unwelcome. People teach their children not to knock on doors of people who aren’t participating and instead go to ones that are. It’s not difficult. If you don’t like it then don’t participate but don’t be a misery for those who do or try and shame children for having fun by joining in a tradition that is literally centuries old. Hardly bizarre.

if we go elsewhere, we don't have decorations out (we usually go to my mums for the evening) but we always get sweets in, and considering all year round I have my Neighbourhood Witch sticker in the front window, and when they do catch us before we leave, we're both in full costume, we DO get them. so we get sweets in for the ones that get us before we go. and I have loads of Halloween signs in my hallway that live there all year round, so I think they know that we are definitely trick or treater friendly.

but, for the most part, they only tend to go to decorated houses. the locals just know, we're in the Halloween spirit all year round, and if they show up before we leave to celebrate with family, there WILL be a friendly reception and treats