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Friends birthday issue

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Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 16:57

It’s a first world problem but bugging me!

My friend (of 15 years plus, we see each other regularly) had a milestone birthday last year, she had said she was having a big party in the summer of this year - which didn’t materialise due to col. Fair enough. I bought her a thoughtful and beautiful gift at the time, I put a lot of care into making sure she had fresh flowers on her birthday too, as I thought she was just at home on the day as she had said, and wanted her to feel special. I had suggested I organise something for her, but she had a holiday booked with a mutual friend of ours and husbands and would focus on her big joint party in the summer.

However, I found out later she did have a party but not huge one (she told me after another friend said they were surprised to not see me there) I was very hurt and surprised by this. And embarrassed. We see each other regularly and even celebrate Easter together and other events, she has obviously been to all of our milestone birthdays.

Fast forward to my birthday this year and she forgets to send a card and a gift, but does text and offers to meet for lunch to celebrate. We always exchange gifts for birthdays and Christmas, and do something special like a lunch or an outing.

I assume at this point she wants to cool down the friendship, or she is prioritising other friends which is fine.

I told her I felt hurt about the milestone party, and she missed my bday altogether. I wanted to figure out if she was upset by something else or if there was a reason. I prefer talking honestly and directly.

She apologised quite sincerely, and she has tried to make plans to meet up over the summer, but I have been quite reluctant to see her again. We don’t message as much now, and I am wondering if I really want this person as a friend.

I am a good friend, and an honest one and I can’t quite get past the fact she did organise a party in the end, be it not a big party but certainly with mutual friends and didn’t think to invite me. I just feel it was dishonest. We spoke about her birthday for six months on and off before it happened!

Her birthday is coming up again. Do I send a card and gift as usual and carry on as normal - or do I just send a card to avoid looking petty or do I send nothing? Wwyd?

I don’t know what to do for the best, the friendship feels tainted now. Like we can’t unwind what’s happened. I don’t hold grudges so I am not sure why it still bothers me.

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itsmylife7 · 29/10/2024 17:48

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:43

Yes, I am the friend she comes to with her issues, secrets and problems. I am a good listener and will bend over backwards for my friends. Probably too much it’s becoming apparent.

I just knew you were going to be that type of friend.

Code for....I'll use you at my leisure but you're NOT top of the list for my happy times.

autienotnaughty · 29/10/2024 17:48

Match her energy. Send her a text on her birthday wishing her a lovely day.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:48

Her birthday is before Christmas, but no I don’t think I’ll be doing anything for that either. What a waste of time! 15 years of friendship 😞

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cout · 29/10/2024 17:48

Yes you are all right, I just feel sad that I am struggling to get past it and feel like it’s a me problem - as she did apologise. Why doesn’t it feel like enough?

She apologised, fine. Doesn't mean you have to forget that she showed you exactly what she thinks/thought of you.

You can always see if she wants to make more effort in the near future and decide if you want to continue being friends.

Don't chase at all though.

BabyCloud · 29/10/2024 17:48

How someone can see a friend make so much effort and then exclude them from their party is beyond me. Fall back. Don’t send any more cards. Don’t try and make any grand gestures (…or small for that matter!)

A happy birthday text at some point in the day would be as far as I went.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:50

itsmylife7 · 29/10/2024 17:48

I just knew you were going to be that type of friend.

Code for....I'll use you at my leisure but you're NOT top of the list for my happy times.

Can you explain more about that. She is a massive party person and always has been. Even now we are older. I am not a big drinker nor a person that parties until 7am. I am not part of that scene, I love going out but not to their extent. They are ‘well known’ if you get my drift.

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TheHistorian · 29/10/2024 17:50

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:36

I have just always been awful at this. If someone hurts me, weirdly I seem to try even harder!

Like it must be my failing in some way even when it clearly isn’t. I always think maybe I should have been a better friend, been more interesting or better in some other way. When someone hurts me I very rarely cut them off or distance myself. I try to save the situation…. Or try harder. It has just occurred to me that she could get away with not inviting me because she knows me well and assumed I wouldn’t mind.

She was extremely surprised when I brought it up and asked her directly when we were having dinner. And later made a comment that I was not being quite myself.

I know exactly what you mean by trying even harder when someone does something unkind. It's part of the people pleasing gene, fawning to try to get someone to like you but it doesn't work.

I had a friend who would book herself in to stay with me for her birthday weekend, I would spoil her and make a big fuss. My birthday the next month, nothing! She forgot every time. The card and gift would turn up months later. This went on for a few years. Every year the same and I kept trying, hoping it would change and feeling guilty not to spoil her because she was seeing a married man who went home for his anniversary (I know, what the hell was I thinking!). Long story short, she's no longer a friend and I'm still left with resentment at her thoughtlessness.

So my advice is to suffer the guilt, send her a card at most, and back off a bit. Resentment is a much worse feeling. I think she's taking you for granted because she knows that you're that 'nice' friend who won't kick up a fuss. Her husband sounds a thoughtless arse, it's not your job to compensate.

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Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:51

cout · 29/10/2024 17:48

Yes you are all right, I just feel sad that I am struggling to get past it and feel like it’s a me problem - as she did apologise. Why doesn’t it feel like enough?

She apologised, fine. Doesn't mean you have to forget that she showed you exactly what she thinks/thought of you.

You can always see if she wants to make more effort in the near future and decide if you want to continue being friends.

Don't chase at all though.

To be fair to her she has chased for a date and to meet up, but I haven’t wanted to. Even though I feel mean by avoiding it.

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cout · 29/10/2024 17:52

If you'd feel uncomfortable meeting her for dinner then the friendship is probably over.

Job done. Easy.

starsbrawl · 29/10/2024 17:53

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Schoolchoicesucks · 29/10/2024 17:53

Send a card. You tried to address the issue directly and she didn't match your honest approach. I understand how you must have felt both the realisation that she clearly doesn't value or appreciate your friendship the same way you did, but also the awareness that mutual friends must see that. But that's her issue to wear. If anyone comments about you not being at the party, or not being as close with mutual friend any more, a breezy "yes, it was a bit of a surprise but ex-friend didn't invite me/seems to have gone a bit cool on me, but no hard feelings".

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:55

TheHistorian · 29/10/2024 17:50

I know exactly what you mean by trying even harder when someone does something unkind. It's part of the people pleasing gene, fawning to try to get someone to like you but it doesn't work.

I had a friend who would book herself in to stay with me for her birthday weekend, I would spoil her and make a big fuss. My birthday the next month, nothing! She forgot every time. The card and gift would turn up months later. This went on for a few years. Every year the same and I kept trying, hoping it would change and feeling guilty not to spoil her because she was seeing a married man who went home for his anniversary (I know, what the hell was I thinking!). Long story short, she's no longer a friend and I'm still left with resentment at her thoughtlessness.

So my advice is to suffer the guilt, send her a card at most, and back off a bit. Resentment is a much worse feeling. I think she's taking you for granted because she knows that you're that 'nice' friend who won't kick up a fuss. Her husband sounds a thoughtless arse, it's not your job to compensate.

Oh that is awful, you must have felt so used. I am glad you are shot of her now. But yes it does leave a sense of being taken advantage of in some way, even if we were complicit and willing.

I am relieved I am not the only person that tries harder when snubbed or hurt. Like if I try harder she will like me, and things will be okay. When in fact the reverse is true, I am sure it just looks desperate in hindsight 😑

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viques · 29/10/2024 17:58

I would send a text, maybe a day late….

Bananamanlovesyou · 29/10/2024 17:58

I think it’s your flowers as the centrepiece for a party she didn’t invite you to that really does it for me!

category12 · 29/10/2024 17:58

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:50

Can you explain more about that. She is a massive party person and always has been. Even now we are older. I am not a big drinker nor a person that parties until 7am. I am not part of that scene, I love going out but not to their extent. They are ‘well known’ if you get my drift.

Do you think maybe that's why she didn't invite you?

Maybe she feels a bit judged by you on that, even if you don't?

itsmylife7 · 29/10/2024 17:58

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 17:50

Can you explain more about that. She is a massive party person and always has been. Even now we are older. I am not a big drinker nor a person that parties until 7am. I am not part of that scene, I love going out but not to their extent. They are ‘well known’ if you get my drift.

You're the one that helps her sort her issues,problems etc.

You're just not that important to her when she's partying.

Oh, and your birthday isn't important to her either,but you make her feel special on her birthday.

The fact you spoke up for yourself and she questioned you !

TheHistorian · 29/10/2024 18:00

@Savingthehedgehogs I don't think it looks desperate tbh because they probably don't even think about it. It's offered to them, they take it but they're focused at all times on what they need. I suspect your friend's lack of reaction to your upset is because she genuinely can't see a problem. She's used to you giving to her.

WhatNoRaisins · 29/10/2024 18:01

I think for some people apologies are just empty words. She's really treated you like crap here and I'm sure others can see it.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 18:01

Schoolchoicesucks · 29/10/2024 17:53

Send a card. You tried to address the issue directly and she didn't match your honest approach. I understand how you must have felt both the realisation that she clearly doesn't value or appreciate your friendship the same way you did, but also the awareness that mutual friends must see that. But that's her issue to wear. If anyone comments about you not being at the party, or not being as close with mutual friend any more, a breezy "yes, it was a bit of a surprise but ex-friend didn't invite me/seems to have gone a bit cool on me, but no hard feelings".

That’s exactly it. Not only does she CLEARLY not value or appreciate our friendship but the public way in which I found out was pretty dreadful! I felt the other friends had in fact decided to give me the heads up, it didn’t feel accidental. They wanted me to know.
They even asked her who bought the stunning flowers on the table ( they were especially striking) It takes some brass neck to say it was someone that wasn’t even invited!! I felt like an idiot at that moment…

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Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 18:02

viques · 29/10/2024 17:58

I would send a text, maybe a day late….

😂😂

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Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 18:02

Bananamanlovesyou · 29/10/2024 17:58

I think it’s your flowers as the centrepiece for a party she didn’t invite you to that really does it for me!

I know it’s bloody cheeky ( And embarrassing for me)

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BabyCloud · 29/10/2024 18:03

How old are they?

Gingerbee · 29/10/2024 18:03

Send a card with a nice message. You could suggest meeting up for lunch or a drink and leave the ball in her court.

LittleMonks11 · 29/10/2024 18:04

Cut her off right now. She sounds awful and it's affecting your MH.

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