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9 year old served ‘birthday drinks’ at sleepover

628 replies

Calpi · 25/10/2024 10:37

My daughter recently attended a birthday sleepover. The girls are 9 years old which I thought was slightly on the young side so I was a little hesitant but agreed.

I have just seen some pictures and I really am not happy. The girls were given ‘birthday drinks’. They were only squash and obviously no alcohol was used but they were served in actual plastic flutes. The drink was bright pink with fizzy sweets in the glass but I’m not happy.

The mum in question parents very differently. Her 9 year old gets bought VERY expensive skincare products. And her daughter acts like a
full on teen - we’re talking crop tops, Stanley cups, skincare, TikTok dances, eyeshadow etc. I have been in the girl’s bedroom and she has a dressing table completely covered in drunk elephant etc. The mum is into that overconsumption stuff she sees online. Fine, parent how you want but I want my daughter to have a childhood and to not be adultified.

AIBU in thinking this was massively inappropriate? Why couldn’t they have just made milkshakes or smoothies? Or an ice cream sundae?

OP posts:
Slaintemhath · 25/10/2024 13:16

Needmorelego · 25/10/2024 10:43

Good grief.
Me and my friends made drinks like that in circa 1983 😂
(milkshakes were nesquik and smoothies hadn't been invented back then......)

Cremola foam 😂

Or a cremola foam ice cream float if it was lacking by itself 🥳🤣

kitsuneghost · 25/10/2024 13:17

Jeez. I thought someone had given her bucks fizz by your title

Maray1967 · 25/10/2024 13:18

choixduroi · 25/10/2024 13:13

I don't think it will harm your daughter BUT it would bother me a lot as well, especially if all her friends were like this. A kind of 'footballers wives', mixed with 'it's wine o'clock', 'girls are intended to be glamorous', buying into all the marketing, I don't think it's as fun and harmless as many posters think. You can't force her friends to have parties where they are doing a physical activity like climbing or outdoor games or whatever, but still no I wouldn't like it, any more than I would like it if they were giving out sweetie cigarettes, which also used to be seen as a fun way for kids to get ready for adulthood. I think you need to find the balance OP between, ok, you don't like it and it might not be good in some ways but you will have to allow a certain amount of crap, but try to ensure different influences in her life.

You’ve just taken me back to my childhood. Sweetie cigarettes- I loved them! But I’ve never smoked in my life. So I suppose I don’t think that a pretend cocktail at a birthday party will lead to a drinking problem, but I can see that if DC are doing it all the time it could be an unpleasant influence.

As a one off or occasional thing, I wouldn’t worry. Hopefully other parties will be swimming etc

Sunnybow94 · 25/10/2024 13:19

My dd is 10, she has never had so much as a sip of alcohol in her life but has had all sorts of fancy mocktails. I personally feel like it’s up to you if you want to let your dd try a few sips of alcohol, I wouldn’t do it myself but also don’t judge you for it but I honestly can’t believe you think that real alcohol is perfectly acceptable but not a cute, fizzy, age appropriate soft drink. Like a previous poster said, I’d be interested to know what your dd sipped this wine you gave her from because if it was in fact an actual wine glass then in your opinion that’s the part that would make it wrong??
Honestly, I think you come across as jealous of this other mum.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/10/2024 13:20

FFS….

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 25/10/2024 13:22

Calpi · 25/10/2024 11:16

Dd has probably had 3 sips of wine in her life - just to try in an attempt to demystify alcohol. She dislikes the taste and pulls a funny face. I see no problem with this.

The mum in my eyes is almost doing the opposite re alcohol. Making it into this massively glamorous thing.

Edited

But they weren’t pretending to drink alcohol, just having a child appropriate drink served in a fancy way. I don’t see anything inappropriate with that

MrsSunshine2b · 25/10/2024 13:22

choixduroi · 25/10/2024 13:13

I don't think it will harm your daughter BUT it would bother me a lot as well, especially if all her friends were like this. A kind of 'footballers wives', mixed with 'it's wine o'clock', 'girls are intended to be glamorous', buying into all the marketing, I don't think it's as fun and harmless as many posters think. You can't force her friends to have parties where they are doing a physical activity like climbing or outdoor games or whatever, but still no I wouldn't like it, any more than I would like it if they were giving out sweetie cigarettes, which also used to be seen as a fun way for kids to get ready for adulthood. I think you need to find the balance OP between, ok, you don't like it and it might not be good in some ways but you will have to allow a certain amount of crap, but try to ensure different influences in her life.

It's actually completely OK for girls to enjoy stereotypically "girly" things and have an evening pretending to be glamorous AND also like stereotypically "boyish" things like outdoor games.

And it's OK for girls to ONLY enjoy stereotypically "girly" things, in the same way that it's OK for boys to only enjoy stereotypically boyish things. We don't criticise boys for not doing lots of feminine-associated things and try to persuade them to have their nails done and wear make-up instead of football and Fortnite.

Femininity is NOT inferior to masculinity, liking feminine things is not shallow or superficial, and whilst I wouldn't be allowing skincare anymore than I'd be allowing Stanley cups for either gender or any of the overpriced branded merchandise aimed at boys, what DD does at her friends' houses and if she sees a different lifestyle and different values does not concern me.

I am secure enough in my own parenting that I don't feel threatened by parents doing anything differently.

For reference, SD15 is non-binary and has NEVER liked anything "girly", DD is 4 and is in her Princess Era. Both are fine.

GreatGardenstuff · 25/10/2024 13:22

Give over, it’s a birthday party!

whatsthatwordagainfeet · 25/10/2024 13:23

fiveflyingfish · 25/10/2024 12:59

Imagine sneering at a parent who happily organises a sleepover for a bunch of 9-year olds.

She probably didn’t get much sleep herself that night, and not to mention a lot of cleaning up after.

But instead of being thankful, you decide to critizise her parenting on a public forum. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself.

This

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 25/10/2024 13:24

My DMum was like this around 10 at sleep over - as I came back with makeup and nail polish on. Odd thing was she bought me similar herself year before.

I suspect it must have been context - worry about messaging or something - but all it did was make me feel bad and tarnish a good rare experience. I still rarely ware make up now - so was hardly a life changing event.

Honestly OP shrug it off and it will soon be forgotten.

coconutpie · 25/10/2024 13:24

Calpi · 25/10/2024 11:16

Dd has probably had 3 sips of wine in her life - just to try in an attempt to demystify alcohol. She dislikes the taste and pulls a funny face. I see no problem with this.

The mum in my eyes is almost doing the opposite re alcohol. Making it into this massively glamorous thing.

Edited

An attempt to demystify alcohol for a 9 year old? A 9 year old child? I am actually appalled that you think that is acceptable, yet you are giving out about another parent who gave the children a soft drink in a flute glass. At least the other parent has the cop on not to give a child alcohol. You have lost any sort of moral high ground here. You mention skin care products and growing up too fast yet YOU are the one allowing your child sips of wine FFS.

OneTC · 25/10/2024 13:25

We all start with one single sip.

Indeed, it's quite hard to become an alcoholic without ever drinking alcohol

Screamingabdabz · 25/10/2024 13:25

Spoiler. Your child will be a teenager soon and attitudes like this don’t help your kid through the social hunger games which is secondary school.

Cattyisbatty · 25/10/2024 13:26

Calpi · 25/10/2024 10:46

My 9 year old has sips of wine from me. I’m not massively uptight. But I was just uncomfortable with the concept of the mocktails being referred to as birthday drinks and being served to look like alcohol. It’s all too grown up in my opinion.

You give your kid sips of wine aged 9 but think having a soft drink mocktail at the same age is encouraging her to drink. You’ve got your priorities mixed up here.

whatsthatwordagainfeet · 25/10/2024 13:26

One of my nieces age 10 enjoys doing a skincare routine and also got a Stanley cup for her birthday (was the main present she really wanted so SIL bought it for her) I don’t see the issue really oh noo pre-teen likes drinking lots of water and washing her face what terrible habits that will lead to a downward spiral 😱

ThePoshUns · 25/10/2024 13:26

Oh for goodness sake.
I'm sure the girls loved and it would have made them feel quite grown up.
Get over yourself.

lurkingfromhome · 25/10/2024 13:27

So, real alcohol = fine.
Soft drinks in a fancy glass = not fine.

Interesting take.

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 25/10/2024 13:28

MrsSunshine2b · 25/10/2024 13:22

It's actually completely OK for girls to enjoy stereotypically "girly" things and have an evening pretending to be glamorous AND also like stereotypically "boyish" things like outdoor games.

And it's OK for girls to ONLY enjoy stereotypically "girly" things, in the same way that it's OK for boys to only enjoy stereotypically boyish things. We don't criticise boys for not doing lots of feminine-associated things and try to persuade them to have their nails done and wear make-up instead of football and Fortnite.

Femininity is NOT inferior to masculinity, liking feminine things is not shallow or superficial, and whilst I wouldn't be allowing skincare anymore than I'd be allowing Stanley cups for either gender or any of the overpriced branded merchandise aimed at boys, what DD does at her friends' houses and if she sees a different lifestyle and different values does not concern me.

I am secure enough in my own parenting that I don't feel threatened by parents doing anything differently.

For reference, SD15 is non-binary and has NEVER liked anything "girly", DD is 4 and is in her Princess Era. Both are fine.

Yes to all of this.

OP, IIWY I'd share your disapproval of the way this girl is being brought up in general - I also have a 9yo dd and she has a friend who's a bit similar, albeit nowhere near as extreme, but her interests are a little grown-up for my liking - but some fun drinks, come on.

Tupster · 25/10/2024 13:28

This is quite a hilarious thread. I genuinely cannot even understand why there's any connection with alcohol. I'm seeing mention of pretty drinks in pretty glasses - I can't see how that implies exposing kids to alcohol any more than the special milkshakes or smoothies that the OP suggests. Personally, I'd far prefer kids to have the squash over the sugar laden shake/smoothie options.
If the OP automatically associates anything special or glamorous with alcohol, then that's way more an OP issue than the other mother.

ThePoshUns · 25/10/2024 13:29

DinaofCloud9 · 25/10/2024 10:51

You give your 9 year old sips of wine but disagree with giving squash in a fancy glass?

Haha this has to be a wind up.

Yes this. If I was the other mother I'd be worried about my daughter staying at your house and potentially being given actual alcohol. 🙄

poetryandwine · 25/10/2024 13:29

I agree with PPs that the context of the birthday girl’s somewhat adult, and expensive possessions as well as dislike for her DM is clouding your judgment here, OP. Especially after your drip feed about giving DD wine.

When we serve champagne, we give young DC guests sparkling fruit juice or Shirley Temples in real crystal flutes. It makes them feel part of the celebration! No one has complained, quite the opposite. (They also behave well whilst drinking from crystal, interestingly)

FasterMichelin · 25/10/2024 13:29

Calpi · 25/10/2024 10:46

My 9 year old has sips of wine from me. I’m not massively uptight. But I was just uncomfortable with the concept of the mocktails being referred to as birthday drinks and being served to look like alcohol. It’s all too grown up in my opinion.

WTF?!

Why are you allowing your 9 year old to sip wine? That's much more inappropriate than serving squash in a cocktail glass.

You're either unhinged or a bit thick. Sorry.

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 25/10/2024 13:30

Wait, what, you give your 9yo sips of wine (!), but you're objecting to non-alcoholic mocktails???

Could a little bit of class snobbery be playing into this, by any chance?

cwcanfo · 25/10/2024 13:30

Ridiculous that you are making a fuss about the non-alcoholic drinks in flutes but you let her sip wine at home.
I don't have a problem with the soft drinks and sweets to make a fun drink for them at the birthday party.
It's no different to when you go to weddings and other events and there's champagne in champagne flutes and juice in flutes for the children or the non-drinkers. Do you object to that as well?

User100000000000 · 25/10/2024 13:31

Calpi · 25/10/2024 10:46

My 9 year old has sips of wine from me. I’m not massively uptight. But I was just uncomfortable with the concept of the mocktails being referred to as birthday drinks and being served to look like alcohol. It’s all too grown up in my opinion.

I know what you're saying OP. The drinks wouldn't bother me in the slightest (perhaps as my 9yr old DD refuses to drink anything besides water, won’t even drink milk. Has only had water since she was 2 as hates any drink with taste). However the rest would bother me! A 9yr old shouldn't be on bloody TikTok or interested in skincare (besides the very basics, obviously).
This type of parent who is desperately trying to grow their daughter up as fast as possible - damaging. Very damaging.

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