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If the UK has to pay reparations, will other countries?

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Controversialname · 24/10/2024 19:07

If the UK is made to pay reparations where will that leave other nations who were or indeed still are involved in slavery?

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EasternStandard · 26/10/2024 14:00

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 13:58

Yes but the tax that you pay won't change!!

Why is that? Who is funding the immense reparations?

The gov gets spend from taxpayers

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:00

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SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:01

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:00

Taxes would not have to increase.

So where is the magic money tree?

ByMerryKoala · 26/10/2024 14:01

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No, I'm not petty but I have no patience for someone who thinks the government pays for things independent of the people who pay in to the treasury. Clearly your knowledge of the flow of money is as solid as your grasp of history.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:02

EasternStandard · 26/10/2024 14:00

Why is that? Who is funding the immense reparations?

The gov gets spend from taxpayers

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The government would just take allocate taxed money differently.

So they would take money away from one thing, and put it into reparations instead

EasternStandard · 26/10/2024 14:02

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:02

The government would just take allocate taxed money differently.

So they would take money away from one thing, and put it into reparations instead

Take away from what?

ByMerryKoala · 26/10/2024 14:02

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Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:02

ByMerryKoala · 26/10/2024 14:01

No, I'm not petty but I have no patience for someone who thinks the government pays for things independent of the people who pay in to the treasury. Clearly your knowledge of the flow of money is as solid as your grasp of history.

Anyone who insults someone like you, is a bully.

Look up the definition. Don't worry. I'm well able for you

Ginmonkeyagain · 26/10/2024 14:02

@EasternStandard Magic government money apparrently!

I mean Weimar Germany did attempt to pay their reparations with magic government money - it went well for people who like paying for a loaf of bread with a wheelbarrow full of notes.

SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:03

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:02

The government would just take allocate taxed money differently.

So they would take money away from one thing, and put it into reparations instead

As people have tried to say, there is no money left.

We have no money for it.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:03

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You're actually completely wrong in what youre saying. But instead of listening to anyone. You just act like a bully

SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:05

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:03

You're actually completely wrong in what youre saying. But instead of listening to anyone. You just act like a bully

A government budget doesn't work like a household budget.

Often, departmental spending can be locked in for a fixed time period.

So where you propose the UK takes money away from that won't have a direct impact on taxpayers?

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:05

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Reported for abuse.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:07

SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:05

A government budget doesn't work like a household budget.

Often, departmental spending can be locked in for a fixed time period.

So where you propose the UK takes money away from that won't have a direct impact on taxpayers?

When countries have to pay reparations, they take money away from one thing that they are funding with tax, and they instead put the money into reparations.

inamarina · 26/10/2024 14:08

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:07

When countries have to pay reparations, they take money away from one thing that they are funding with tax, and they instead put the money into reparations.

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What would you like the government to take the money away from to pay reparations?

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:08

SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:03

As people have tried to say, there is no money left.

We have no money for it.

What do you mean you have "no money".

There obviously is money

Halfemptyhalfling · 26/10/2024 14:08

It's a tricky one as the arabs were taking slaves from Africa for centuries and when the Europeans turned up they asked Africans to do the actual kidnapping of people. Given that the slaves grew sugar and tobacco the rest of the world is paying for it in lung cancer and obesity.

What is important is the huge debts of african countries which they incurred via a whitecentic system especially as colonialism stripped their resources. These unfair debts being written off would help level the playing field

ChampaignSupernova · 26/10/2024 14:09

kistanbul · 24/10/2024 19:54

If we can find the money, we should pay.

I don’t know why people are talking about other countries. I don’t check what the Spanish or Saudis think before I decide right from wrong. The UK should pay for its mistakes. Other nations can do whatever they think right.

Why should you and I foot the bill for something that was done in the past by people who are no longer alive? No one blames the president of Germany for Hitler and the atrocities that happened under him. Instead we use education, we mourn those who lost their lives and we make a point not to forget. The UK gives billions in aid to foreign countries and intervene in wars. The UK hasn't just been take take take.

I also think an apology is utterly meaningless when it comes from people not involved. I could apologise over and over to victim of burglary but it means nothing when I am irrelevant to the incident. The reality is the apology they should have had will never come because those who owe it are long dead.

Where to you draw the line also as to how far back in history we go to claim money?

Martymcfly24 · 26/10/2024 14:09

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:07

When countries have to pay reparations, they take money away from one thing that they are funding with tax, and they instead put the money into reparations.

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So health, education, social welfare. The UK will be looking for foreign aid from other countries if that's the case.

IKEAJesus · 26/10/2024 14:09

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 13:58

Yes but the tax that you pay won't change!!

Then what spending would you want to see cut? Bearing in mind spending cuts tend to affect the poorest people in society more than the richest.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:09

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Also reported for abuse. If you read back, I have managed not to throw personal abuse at people.

I won't take it from posters. You will be reported.

NewGreenDuck · 26/10/2024 14:09

You really don't seem to get that taking money from one service is going to be extremely detrimental to that service. It's really basic. If we want services such as the NHS then we pay for them. If we want any of the services provided by government then we pay for them. If money is taken from a service then that service will either have to massively cut back on what it provides or fold completely.
That impacts on everyone.
I can't believe you don't know that.

ByMerryKoala · 26/10/2024 14:10

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:09

Also reported for abuse. If you read back, I have managed not to throw personal abuse at people.

I won't take it from posters. You will be reported.

I will be reported? Oh, no 😮 What will become of me 😁

SpudleyLass · 26/10/2024 14:11

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 14:08

What do you mean you have "no money".

There obviously is money

I guess some people presuppose the UK is wealthier than it is.

But you don't even seem to understand how government spending and taxation works - not even the fundamentals.

There is no spare money to hand. Its all accounted for and as I said, that spending can be fixed in for a period of time, even years. Ringfenced for certain projects and can't just be moved.

What are you not understanding?

Halfemptyhalfling · 26/10/2024 14:11

NewGreenDuck · 26/10/2024 14:09

You really don't seem to get that taking money from one service is going to be extremely detrimental to that service. It's really basic. If we want services such as the NHS then we pay for them. If we want any of the services provided by government then we pay for them. If money is taken from a service then that service will either have to massively cut back on what it provides or fold completely.
That impacts on everyone.
I can't believe you don't know that.

We have NHS because we had spare resources from empire now that's gone we are struggling to afford it

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