To worry that once the sun explodes there will be

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no intelligent life in the universe. Just vast space. It makes me sad: the slow evolution of man over billions of years; the art; the culture; to go from living in caves to flying to the moon in a blink of an eye.

OneLoftyFish · Today 20:37

What's the opposite of Stephen Hawking?

Joey Essex.

How rude you are. No need for personal attacks.

The planet does not need humans and will evolve and adapt without us. Everything that humans have evolved to do has benefitted humans and humans alone, to the detriment of all other life on earth. Too much, too fast, too focussed on our needs/greed. Nature, however volatile it is, does not indiscriminately, consciously destroy to fulfill a perceived and wholly unnecessary need. As and when we inevitable inhabit other planets, expect more of the same.

I wouldn’t be worried about the state of the planet in billions of years, people need to be worried about it right now!

There's actually a great sci fi short story about this:

The sun would be doing us a favour.

I think the universe is teeming with life.

I think it's inevitable humanity will follow the urge that took our ancestors out of the oceans, out of burrows and trees, into the sky.

In my lifetime humans have then stepped on the moon and sent craft to Mars, the other planets and out of the solar system.

This is the springboard out there.

There are other suns.

That Christopher Walker supposed "joke" is even worse.

I really enjoyed that short story; there's an audio book version on YouTube.

Haven't we fucked up this planet enough, without going off and doing it to other planets too?

Our evolution is stalled and the impact humans have is catastrophic to most of the other species we share the planet with. We're not even that good to each other.

No more cancer, child abuse, animal abuse, wars, rapes, natural disasters etc. I think it'll be wonderful. It's not misanthropic to say that it's actually empathetic to not want humans to suffer.

It's a safe bet that life exists elsewhere in our universe, probably our galaxy. Plus - everything points to there being more than one universe

Either way, it won't be the sun that kills humans, we won't survive to see outposts beyond our planet but life on earth will definitely outlast humans.

Many hundreds of thousands of years before, IF there's capable life in earth then, we'd need to relocate as the earth will become unfavourable way before the sun becomes a white dwarf,
I do wonder sometimes, whether this opened before, and from whence we came perhaps

Thank you for the link to the Asimov - I somehow managed to miss that one when I was reading him decades ago! Might have to start re-reading, they're on the bookcases somewhere...

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I always find it weird how people seem to have existential crises about the human race dying out but be fine about their own death. Point out they'll be non-existent for all eternity and forget all the art and culture of earth when they die and they just go "meh". Talk about the human race dying out in thousands of years and they panic. No one will be here to care about anything when that happens so why would it matter?

Its a good idea to be fine about your own death because its going to happen anyway.
I do think its possible to care about human beings in the here and now, and to care about human beings in the far distance future/the long term survival of humans as a species. What is very odd is people who apparently care about human beings in the far distant future but not about what happens in the here and now. Its a very unhealthy type of utilitarian thinking on steroids that doesn't make sense because if human beings don't matter now on an individual level its impossible for them to matter collectively at some point in the future.
(You know who I mean - the kind of people who say "yes generic tech-bro billionaire seems like a bad person, but he is the only one who is concerned with mankind's future" and wang on about the sadness of the stars with no-one to look at them. Its so unbelievably arrogant.)

Back on topic, my son was listening to Joe Rogan and apparently at some unpredictable moment the earths magnetic axis is going to flip and everything will get messed up and we will all die. So that's one more thing to add to the list of things to worry about.

Evolution won’t just stop.
Whatever beings are living on the earth at that time will be as different from us as we are to a single cell amoeba.

We don' need to wait 4/billion years for the sun to die, the intelligence of the world is already dropping thanks to social mediia, the internet, wfh and gentle parenting.
The paucity of intelligence is happening and affecting us already

Is that you Brian??
We play profound bingo when he's on the TV. Prizes for correctly predicting how many times he says profound in each 10 min slot, or total over a series...

@cakeorwine Hitchhiker by any chance?!!!

No 😂 @ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood although Brian sounds nice 😂

Brian Cox -the scientist cheeky chappie, not the actor bloke! His favourite word is profound!!
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I actually can't think of anything less worth worrying about than what might happen in billions of years time.

What an absolute waste of time.

I wish I had the time to worry about this