To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

[Pineconecollector]

I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

Not just fast food or junk food, ALL food industry businesses, including your friendly supermarket, is in the business of ensuring you eat too much and buy too much.

It is not in their interest for the UK population to eat to only the required amounts of food.

You can’t just take these medications on certain days of the week, it’s a single injection that lasts all week. You clearly don’t know what you are talking about.

I agree people think they are the 'easy' way out, but I haven't found this last year on them easy at all and would prefer very much not to take them so I'm stopping. If people want to stay on them, fair enough, but I find they make me tired and constipated and I'd rather have a normal appetite. You also have to make sure to eat properly, lots of protein, supplement and exercise is good for your heart and body anyway so that has to continue.

It must be annoying if you are slim to think others might become slim too, but you won't get the full health benefits of life-long slimness on these drugs temporarily and some things, like exercise, operate independently and are still needed especially as age. The advantages of working out and weight-bearing exercise and eating a balanced diet still exist even if you are on these drugs!

So it takes roughly a billion pounds to bring a drug to market.

with that it also is tested beforehand but the true test for a drug is side effects from the public. Steroids was the same.

I think if you are struggling to lose weight and need to they are good as the health benefits from not being obese outweighs the risks.

I don’t think that they should be available as readily as they are. I know someone doing it for vanity reasons only. I think it is giving children a very poor example of how to lose weight though.

What is worrying is that no one knows the long term effects of losing weight this way. I know already that it causes muscle loss which can’t be a good thing. I think support groups for people using it , that give ‘tips’ are damaging.

You are losing weight by starving yourself, and if you want an example of why not to take it look at Sharon Osbourne who now physically cant eat and put on weight.

"It must be annoying if you are slim to think others might become slim too"

But why?

Unless people start to admit that they attach a moral value to people's weight, this makes no sense. Why would you be annoyed?

I only know what my friends told me they were doing. I don't think they were lying.

As someone who is obese (BMI says so I wouldn't say I was obese, I'm definitely over weight though maybe I carry it well 🤣)

I think you've got to think about the long term risk of being over weight and compare that to the risk from the medication.

For me, my weight will largely be a bigger risk to my overall health but I haven't time or energy for those kind of side effects. I need to be fit and well for a demanding physical job.

I do over eat. I eat the wrong things. I am moderately active day to day and exercise as well. I know what I need to do to lose weight and I'd rather do that slowly than get a quick fix medication. I've tried all kinds over the years and it always goes back on because it's the habits and lifestyle that needs to change long term.

Are these the jabs that are affecting Type 1 diabetics being able to get their medication? My poor dad has to traipse around different pharmacies to get his insulin pens and is being told its because of the fat loss jabs.

No, because insulin and weight loss jabs are two different things.

Not all providers ask for a photo.

Total bollocks

Apart from they are weekly (fully pointed out to you) the supression lasts for more than a day - stop spreading rubbish

You can't - all you can do is try and give them the tools to be sensible in life. But you can't guarantee that they will be. Teens will be teens. This is just another thing for parents to worry about, alongside all the other things.

Its the pens they can't get hold of - not what's in them.

Whilst this is a fair point, everything I've read about food noise/emotional eating (struggling with it myself) has suggested there are other ways to manage it, like mindful eating, identifying triggers etc. It's obviously not easy but if the work isn't put in then what happens when you come off the injections?

What problems?

That their parents are fit and healthy and able to move around and enjoy activity with their children?
That their parents role model appropriate portion sizes and calorie intake?
That their parents role model seeking out lower calorie and non UPF foods?

Those sorts of problems?

@itwasnevermine I was referring to Howard Stern as an example of a slim person pissed off they have to work hard to remain slim and others seem now to be getting that the 'easy' way.

I don't mind everyone becoming slim! I particularly hope my friends, all mid-fifties mostly, use it to get some weight off before we all tip into old age which is considerably worsened by being obese, so they can continue to exercise, stay fitter, eat better and retain their core muscles which often go when people get too big to exercise. I don't think they should do it- I hope for their sakes they can change it, many of them have been plugging away since post-menopause trying to lose weight, I was, and I've found the temporary answer for me, at least.

@I8toys then that's on the manufacturer. Nothing to do with the weight loss injections as there's no shortage of pens amongst the weight loss jab manufacturers

Yes - and as for those pesky people having plaster casts put on their broken bones, surely they can just not move that body part a bit til it gets better

And contraception, we should ban that as well, if you dont want dc then dont have sex (spelling edit)

My take is it’s either the Howard stern school of thought, feeling superior as you are thin and feeling resentful that superiority will go.

or wanting rhe drugs and can’t afford them, so feeling bitter you will still be obese and struggling whilst others slim down.

sure. Some truely altruistic people with the whole “will you think of the children “ but I actually think that’s a smoke screen for many to hide behind. Because altruism would look at the wider picture.

Then do a little more research before you castigate those who have and then think a little more.🤷‍♀️

Hmmm. My dad was a prescription drug addict and it killed him. I've had my own struggles around addiction. I do think there's a lot of projection and assumption of bad faith on these threads, but for some of us, the thought of a 'magic pill' just rings serious alarm bells.

@Bossygal it's just insanity.

@AnonymousBleep there is no research proving that these drugs are addictive.