To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

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I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

This AIBU. The thread is titled AIBU To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move? If you're looking for the weightloss injections' fan pages, there are already scores of those.

Same as kids getting hold of alcohol illegally and damaging themselves then

Those with AN and BN do not trump those who are obese. A treatment is available for obesity and should be given to those who have this condition. Irrespective of those with restrictive eating disorders who want to abuse it.

Obesity is a far greater problem in our society than restrictive eating disorders, and an effective treatment cannot be ignored in case it triggers a smaller number of people with a different illness

This

I could do with losing a stone or two but aren't interested in these. I'd be worried about the long term.

@Willyoujustbequiet this medication absolutely has been approved for weight loss! And it's been thoroughly tested and trialled as with all other new medications.

What a ridiculous argument... before I lost 5st I'm MJ I was costing the NHS :

Blood pressure meds daily
Metformin daily
Statin daily
Knee injections 3 monthly
GP time average once month
Blood tests avg six weekly.
Thyroxine daily.

Now.
Thyroxine but half the amount.

I will pay to stay healthy for the rest of my life.

Why is taking all the above for life whilst almost certainly running the risk of additional costs of chronic heart disease and stroke ., in some way ok and acceptable but taking a drug to keep you healthy and fitter in some bizarre way unacceptable ?

Just bonkers !

I've already explained that I don't think people with AN or BN 'trump' those with obesity in terms of their needs.

I do believe these injections have a valuable.place in supporting people who experience obesity.

I just have concerns about how freely available these injections are and the impact of the discussions about them in the media and by celebs.

I care a great deal.about the difficulties.peiple.with obesity face and welcome any support and advances made that can help people with obesity. However, given my own experiences I also have concerns for people.with AN and BN and other eating difficulties who may end up.down a difficult and potentially life threatening path due to these injections and the publicity around them.

I've no doubt it has. But do you have any idea of the number of medicines approved but then withdrawn when new evidence came to light?

I'm not being a guinea pig.

@Willyoujustbequiet how many? I'd be interested to know.

No one is suggesting that you be a guinea pig, so no worries for you there. If you're going to comment on these medications it's probably a good idea to be accurate in what you're saying otherwise your criticisms are easily discounted.

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

Actually it’s extremely rare and increasingly so, due to the robust systems in place to prevent that exact eventuality. And really very difficult to get approval in the first place for any new drug, or new indication approval for an existing one. Speaking as someone who works in the clinical trial arena and with the MHRA approval process.

I fail to see what is inaccurate. I simply mentioned that medicines have been withdrawn due to new evidence coming to light. That's simply a fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs

Its quite sobering.

It doesn't seem that rare as that's quite a long list tbf.

Depends on the prescriber.

You do for most

@Willyoujustbequiet I'm referring to your prior claim that these medications aren't approved for weight loss. When they are.

What is the number of withdrawn medications in the UK per year? Perhaps just the ones recalled for safety reasons, rather than lack of effectiveness or other uncontroversial reasons.

What is it about these weight loss injections that makes you suspect they are likely to be withdrawn on safety grounds?

Because as soon as you stop and your normal appetite resumes, you'll gain all the weight back? It's not addressing the reasons for overeating and it's not teaching healthier eating/exercise etc

the programmes that offer these drugs have a lot of resources and teams of people to support you.

additionally facebook communities to help support you.

at some point more willpower is needed and that’s something that can be trained and learned over time.

It’s almost like the critics of this WANT the people taking the medication to fail.

bit thin on the kindness aren’t they?

Do you have any understanding of how tiny a percentage of the total number of medicines on the market, past and present, that list is?

Please don't misquote me because I never said that.

If you reread you will see I actually said I have no doubt they were approved.

I didn't say they would be withdrawn either. You seem on the defensive. All I said was I don't want to be a guinea pig as we don't know the long term effects. Which we don't

The criteria of this are unscientific, misinformation -spreaders who absolutely want those who take the meds to fail, to stay fat.

They don't mind that obesity causes a multitude of comorbidities, they just like that they are thinner.

They are annoyed there is a treatment for obesity and that it can now potentially be eradicated.

They should take a look at themselves, no one buys their ignorant, unscientific faux- concern

The Critics

Erm then just don't take them

That's a good solution for you, right

It may well be. It doesn't change the fact that medicines get withdrawn when new evidence comes to light. That list demonstrates some that were.

If people are willing to take that risk that is entirely up to them. I'm not.

Same for me too. It I eat around 1600 cals a day I could easily eat more but I don't.

At first I still ate rubbish but now I try and eat whole foods mostly and learning how to cook simple but nutritious meals.

And yes, it takes willpower, I still get hungry, I still crave sugary things but it's made it easier to resist.

Which is exactly what I said.

@Willyoujustbequiet you quoted another poster's post and said "this" implying you agreed with what the poster had said. Is that not what you meant? Here's what you quoted:

"ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood
The long-term effects will be interesting to observe
The fact that so many people would not have a covid jab 'because it hadn't been trialled enough', yet are happy to use a massive drug that us not yet fully approved for weight loss, is just stupid"