To think all these weight loss jabs are a bad move?

[Pineconecollector]

I’ve seen so many people recently saying they’re on Mounjaro - someone wrote on Facebook that they were struggling to eat anything at all, hadn't eaten for over 48 hours. Just zero desire to eat anything. Surely that can’t be healthy?

I also know of someone who has lied to an only e pharmacy to get the jab, because her BMI would be considered too low to be prescribed it. She’s wanting to get down to a size 6.

Wow.

we can be fat and do some about it

sadly your post has shown how ugly you are, and there’s no treatment for that

Don't waste your energy on this hopeless poster, who is trying to rule people up.

Clearly the most unscientific person about, plus nasty to boot.

Being slim is perhaps all they've got, and they're cross that we'll all be slim soon or already are

At least some posters are being honest about their utter disdain for us fatties, rather than covering it up by pretending to be ‘sad and terrified’ or whatever it was, about our future because of the jabs.

It’s pretty clear that most of the objections are from people who are pissed off that there’s now an ‘easy’ way for people to lose weight. It’s all about the way that fat people are considered to be lazy and greedy and that we don’t deserve to lose weight without immense suffering and feelings of deprivation.

How wrong for us to lose weight without hunger!
How terrible that we’re not salivating at the dessert menu but saying ‘no thank you’ with smug self-righteousness!
How unfair that we’re able to get to a healthy weight when they have spent years depriving themselves only to end up looking the same!

That’s what this thread boils down to. You can dress it up in faux concerns about health and thin people buying it on the black market blah blah blah but really it’s all wrapped up in judgement about fat people.

The point is that there is no health benefit to going from a healthy weight to the lower end of healthy or even underweight. There are possible side effects from taking any medication, so when there's no medical benefit or even a medical risk (becoming underweight) then the risks aren't balanced out by any possible health improvement.

Additionally, these medications have not been tested on people in this circumstance, so there may be additional risks for people who are already a healthy weight starting to take this medication.

I don't think every single person who is concerned about side effects is a slimmo trying to make life unpleasant for those who wish to lose weight.

I am concerned about them and I'm 2 stone overweight. My interest is what happens when you stop, as I don't want to take the drugs for a year then slowly put all the weight back on, neither do I want to be on an expensive private drug forever. I've seen colleagues take it and it's hard! So not an easy way out by any means.

Is obesity the biggest cause of all cancers, or the second biggest cause? Can't remember and CBA to look it up right now

Either way, taking this and treating obesity drastically reduces your odds of many cancers.

You keep worrying about the lab rats' thyroids, though

I started mj just over a month ago and for the first time ever my weight is actually moving! I have pcos and I suspect some insulin resistance and I think this medication is helping to stabilise that. I’ve never had a big appetite but have had the worst sweet tooth and that sugar craving has gone overnight! For me I think this drug is a game changer! Having been a size 20 for a few years after a massive weight gain from amytriptaline nothing has helped to shift the weight. My body seems to just need far fewer calories than average. I have physical disabilities so this probably plays a part too.
I do worry about the long term risks but with a bmi of 39 my risks of not doing anything were higher!

@Searchingforthelight @SwingTheMonkey very true. I'm just surprised some people have it in them to be so nasty

There appears to be a lot of possible side effects with these drugs, so I wouldn’t take them.

You dont have to stop. Theres a maintenance dose which is fortnightly instead of weekly. Or you can titrate back down to a lower dose and continue weekly. Its not a one pathway medication, you find the dose that works for you remain on it until you need to increase as necessary. Or reduce. Or maintain. Some people do stop, but it forces you to change habits and some have been successful coming off it and continuing these habits. Its not a cure for the hormonal imbalance, its a treatment, that you have to take for life if that is something that impacts your weight massively. The choice is with the user. I will pay for it for as long as i need to. I would hope in time the NHS sees the benefit of these medications and makes it more widely available. But its something i will budget into my life for now for as long as i can privately.

Having had thyroid cancer, I’ll worry about that rather than the rat

I think the main side effect of the weight loss jabs is that some people will lose their sense of superiority.

Every drug has potential side effects. Not everyone experiences them. I had some weirdly second week, not first, for a day, nothing since. Similar for a lot of people i have spoken to.

This still doesn't mean you can't get other cancers, and the odds of doing so are far higher for the obese

Overall the benefits by far weigh out the risks

The NHS should 'follow the science' ( you'd think, right!) so it should be available on NHS soon. Now that will be money well spent

That level of hate and vitriol can’t be doing their health any good…

Look at me - I’m expressing faux concern for someone else’s health!

don't like the sound of it...quick fixes sometimes bite you in the bum!

There might be something in that - like women who 'sail' through menopause being sniffy about HRT.

@Thommasina or those who look down on women for taking the "easy way out" in childbirth

We are our own worst enemy!

Very much so!

Why are you so worried?

What does it matter to you whether the jabs enable someone to live a happier healthier life or whether they are ultimately disappointed or disillusioned?

The drugs have gone through trials and passed safety checks. Information about side effects is freely available. They are only prescribed to adults who can weigh up the risks and benefits and make a decision for themselves subject to meeting prescribing criteria.

They are being provided privately with the cost being met by the patient.

They are expected to save the tax payer millions.

What are your specific worries?

They aren't available legally to those who aren't clinically obese.

Many people die as a result of taking paracetamol. That is a drug that is demonstrably unsafe, perhaps we should remove it from sale.

And penicillin, I know someone who ended up gravely ill as a result of taking that. Let's ban it because it isn't absolutely safe.

Alternatively we could accept that many drugs have risks, especially if used improperly, but often the potential good outweighs the risk.