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The Yorkshire Ripper question?

436 replies

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:42

Just read that it cost the taxpayer 11 billion to keep him alive including his funeral?
Do you still feel the same way about him being hung for his murders?

is it acceptable to the taxpayer to pay that much, when there are so many other things that the money could have been spent on, or dosent the money matter?

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MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:43

Does that say 11 billion pounds?

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:44

And no, the money doesn't matter, if the alternative is an inhumane, medieval justice system.

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:44

yes. Amazing isnt it!

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DuckBushCityLimit · 22/10/2024 13:44

Pretty sure it was 11 million.

meganorks · 22/10/2024 13:45

You've been reading some absolute bullshit information!

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:46

Daily Mail reported it as ten million. He was in prison for 32 years so it costs what it costs. What's the alternative?

SallyForf · 22/10/2024 13:47

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:46

Daily Mail reported it as ten million. He was in prison for 32 years so it costs what it costs. What's the alternative?

Exactly.

DollopOfFun · 22/10/2024 13:49

11 billion lol 😂

Orangebadger · 22/10/2024 13:49

11 Billion??? I doubt that!

The death sentence is wrong on many levels, firstly the 2 wrongs don't make a right. And even more, how many injustices take place where people are wrongly prosecuted? At least in prison they can be released!

GalacticTowelMaster · 22/10/2024 13:50

I heard it was eleventy billion

ReadWithScepticism · 22/10/2024 13:50

That should be £11 million, not £11 billion!!!. And that is in 'today's money', Not the actual cost, apparently.

The money is part of the investment into the prison system, which we all need and benefit from. We would all benefit more if more was invested, so that prison actually stood a chance of rehabilitating people.

In Sutcliffe's case there was of course an additional cost element arising from his being mentally ill. Everyone in prison is entitled to have adequate health care.

And the funeral costs? Who would begrudge that. A tiny additional expense compared to the whole cost of his incarcerated life - and presumably a lot of the expense related to security and coralling the press. It isn't as if he himself benefitted.

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:50

'cossetted' oh dear

AffIt · 22/10/2024 13:50

Because state-sanctioned murder is wrong.

It has always been wrong and it will always be wrong and I don't care how much we have to spend to uphold that basic principle.

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:52

He tried to get his pension!

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SallyForf · 22/10/2024 13:53

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:52

He tried to get his pension!

And?

No33 · 22/10/2024 13:54

How much would the death sentence have cost?

FeelTheRush · 22/10/2024 13:54

Lol at 11 billion!!!! 😂

That math is not mathing

DollopOfFun · 22/10/2024 13:54

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:52

He tried to get his pension!

How many billions did he get for that?

x2boys · 22/10/2024 13:55

Objectivley I dont agree with the death penalty so it costs what it costs
Of course i might feel differently it was a loved one of mine who had been brutally murdered

ReadWithScepticism · 22/10/2024 13:55

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:52

He tried to get his pension!

If I was bored as fuck in prison I would find some paperwork to get my teeth into too.

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:55

The utterly botched, viciously misogynist investigation which led to him being free to murder more victims is the real public scandal, and that's the cause we need to keep attention on.

BunfightBetty · 22/10/2024 13:55

It's the price we pay for not having the death penalty, so well worth it, IMO.

Per year he was kept under lock and key it's actually not that much given the level of security required.

The question is not why have we spent this money on incarcerating Sutcliffe, the question is why we don't spend adequate funds in other worthwhile areas, such as health and education. They're not linked, though, it's not as if it would have been spent on education, for example, if he'd been executed. As a proportion of the government budget it's a drop in the ocean.

BunfightBetty · 22/10/2024 13:56

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:55

The utterly botched, viciously misogynist investigation which led to him being free to murder more victims is the real public scandal, and that's the cause we need to keep attention on.

Absolutely. It was disgraceful.

TickingAlongNicely · 22/10/2024 13:57

Andrew Malkinson. 17years to prove his innocence.

Miscarriages do happen. Death penalty can't be put right.