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Prince Charles's alleged lovechild

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Applemayjune · 18/10/2024 22:16

Did you see the story in the news that a man in Australia has said that he is Prince Charles 's and Camilla's lovechild. Apparently security are watching him as he said that he is going to try to go and see them

This is lighthearted, so don't come at me. It's just in the news today, and was wondering what are your thoughts?

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Applemayjune · 19/10/2024 13:44

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 13:42

Absolutely 💯 😂😂

What does that even mean?

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BunnyLake · 19/10/2024 13:45

Applemayjune · 19/10/2024 13:34

But he didn't comply with Delphine's query for most of her life. He also didn't comply with the court for a long time.

He only eventually complied at the end when they hit him with huge fines.

So we can say that he didn't comply for a long time, and then he complied at a much later stage

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Yes that is correct. Didn’t comply then did when he had little choice. Still complied though whichever way you look at it, it just wasn’t voluntary.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 13:45

I think that poster is quoting Milton's Paradise Lost. Possibly the original version.

redtrain123 · 19/10/2024 13:46

Prince Albert also has two children out of wedlock, prior to marriage.

CatchOnToYersel · 19/10/2024 13:48
grow little shop of horrors GIF

Looking for my mummy and daddy.

They are sunflowers.

Have them comply at once.

BunnyLake · 19/10/2024 13:50

nOasistickets · 19/10/2024 13:21

I mean if he is - so what? He’s never going to be in line for the throne - so what does he want out of all of this? Money or something?

Good question. I read that he thinks he’s the rightful heir to the throne so it sounds like he wants that. It would be madness to want that when you have no idea what it really involves, you can’t just plonk yourself on the throne and you’re the King as if you’re in a Hollywood movie. If he just wanted to make familial connections that’s one thing but being grabby for the actual throne makes him seem like a bit of a narc.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 13:52

BunnyLake · 19/10/2024 13:50

Good question. I read that he thinks he’s the rightful heir to the throne so it sounds like he wants that. It would be madness to want that when you have no idea what it really involves, you can’t just plonk yourself on the throne and you’re the King as if you’re in a Hollywood movie. If he just wanted to make familial connections that’s one thing but being grabby for the actual throne makes him seem like a bit of a narc.

Not just that, but completely ignorant and stupid.
However, I do suspect that he is a troubled soul.

CatchOnToYersel · 19/10/2024 13:55

That has indeed been the case with some joining the RF @BunnyLake

Having a Hollywood impression of the RF is different to the reality.

I hope he drops this and looks for his own peace. I suspect he will be disappointed if he does not.

Smartiesoncake553 · 19/10/2024 14:31

The interesting thing about the Belgian saga is that Delphine was roundly mocked and scrutinised when she first made her claim.

www.tatler.com/article/love-child-of-former-king-of-belgium-princess-delphine-albert-ii-asks-for-larger-involvement-in-the-royal-family www.tatler.com/article/love-child-of-former-king-of-belgium-princess-delphine-albert-ii-asks-for-larger-involvement-in-the-royal-family]]]]

And Albert obfuscated, denied and avoided the truth for years before he was forced by the courts to take a DNA test.

A shocking example of a man’s sense of entitlement and privilege.

I don’t know anything about this Australian claimant but you wonder why anyone would voluntarily put themselves through such public ridicule unless they really thought they had a case.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 14:37

Yes, @Smartiesoncake553 , Delphine was sure of her case because of her mother's relationship with the king. It was all an open secret. Even so, it took some doing, as you say.

Uricon2 · 19/10/2024 14:49

Having read some of the digging someone has done on Reddit, SD-D sounds at best delusional and and worst a bare faced liar.

I think Charles II way of dealing with his numerous illegitimate offspring was best. Acknowledged as his and given big grand titles and land (Nell Gwynne's line are the Dukes of St Albans) Interesting list of direct descendants, including

Princes William and Harry (2 lines through Diana)
Queen Camilla
Sarah Duchess of York (3 lines)
Kit Harrington (Jon Snow)
Rose Leslie (married to "you know nothing, Jon Snow")

Basically he pretty much populated the British aristocracy for generations to come and when William is crowned will have an umpteen times gt grandson on the throne.

As someone born illegitimate before S D-D and very much not acknowledged nor the recipient of a penny, let alone a title, I quite admire Charles II's non- deadbeat- Dadness.

SpudleyLass · 19/10/2024 14:59

Applemayjune · 19/10/2024 03:25

And you think camilla is.

Didn't she hire a PR guy to try to male her look good?

Harold is just a turd that refuses to take accountability for his own actions - Camilla is just another person in a long line of people blamed for Harry's wrong doings.

Had Diana lived, I'm sure he would have found something to blame her for, too.

SpudleyLass · 19/10/2024 15:06

Smartiesoncake553 · 19/10/2024 09:34

I have noticed this nasty rhetoric about Diana being trotted out on RF threads of late and always think to myself how well the Palace PR machine is still working. And how easily members of the public fall for it.

Not one person, not even Diana herself, claims she was saintly. But there has been a lot of misogynistic things written about her and her relationships of late that just wouldn’t be written about a man.

And this nasty rhetoric about her being mad and promiscuous is as old as the hills when it comes to powerful men wanting to control women who won’t go quietly.

It seems to me that certain members of the establishment are still invested in blackening her memory for their own ends. And given who is currently king, it doesn’t surprise me. I hope when William is king, that other messages will replace these current misogynistic ones.

If you don’t want to believe that the palace isn’t still pumping out rhetoric against Diana; check out Gyles Brandreth, a friend and supporter of Camilla, mentioning how “mad” Diana was on ITV This Morning last year. Just casually dropping it in to royal feature which had nothing to do with Diana at all.

And Diana’s late private secretary who worked with her for seven years, and found her to be very down to earth and far from mad, said it was evident that there was a sustained campaign of rhetoric against her.

Similar nasty comments are dropped in to these threads on the RF board in exactly the same way.

And it’s simply because everyone at the palace doesn’t want anyone remembering how Charles and Camilla behaved when Diana was engaged and married to Charles, and during both of her pregnancies, and when she had two young boys.

Any decent woman in that situation would have removed themselves from the scene entirely and gone and lived in another country, especially once the children had arrived.

No one seems to think about what would have happened had Diana not spoken out. In order to remain in the royal fold she had to appear in public and act out the lie that her marriage was happy and her children would have had to live that lie publically too. And yet somehow the RF are never wrong for expecting that of a woman in the first place?

Diana was in fact a horrendous bully.

What she did to Tiggy Legg Bourke was beyond the pale.

Disgusting woman.

CatchOnToYersel · 19/10/2024 15:16

Didn't she hire a PR guy to try to male her look good?

Ah - PR. If so - it seemed to do the trick.

Alas, not everyone manages to hire the right PR people. In fact some make quite the hash of it, if you’ll pardon the expression.

TeaMistress · 19/10/2024 15:33

This man is clearly troubled and / or mentally unwell and he seems like a nasty entitled piece of work. Someone tell this deluded man that what he wants is never going to happen.

Chartreuse45 · 19/10/2024 15:40

Didn't he also claim he had some kind of medical procedure to change the colour of his eyes? That was "Twilight Zone" territory for me!

BunnyLake · 19/10/2024 15:41

CecilyP · 19/10/2024 13:19

If it was true, and of course it wasn’t, the royal family would not have been involved at all. Camilla would have had the baby amongst her family as an unmarried mother amongst her own family. The baby would not have been to the palace at all.

Then why would Camilla hand the baby over to a couple working at the palace? They would be nothing to her, she wouldn’t even know of their existence. I’d find it hard to believe the Queen would not have had any involvement at all in the future of her grandchild.

Applemayjune · 19/10/2024 16:18

SpudleyLass · 19/10/2024 15:06

Diana was in fact a horrendous bully.

What she did to Tiggy Legg Bourke was beyond the pale.

Disgusting woman.

But look at the full story.

Martin Bashir faked documents to show that tiggy legge bourke had an abortion, and gave them to Diana

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Sethera · 19/10/2024 16:25

BunnyLake · 19/10/2024 13:50

Good question. I read that he thinks he’s the rightful heir to the throne so it sounds like he wants that. It would be madness to want that when you have no idea what it really involves, you can’t just plonk yourself on the throne and you’re the King as if you’re in a Hollywood movie. If he just wanted to make familial connections that’s one thing but being grabby for the actual throne makes him seem like a bit of a narc.

I think he wants attention and validation for a narrative he's created that is presumably comforting or satisfying to him as an adopted child who doesn't know who his birth parents were.

As has been pointed out on the thread, and as he must be aware if he's done an iota of research, an illegitimate child can never be the heir to the throne - even if there are no other options, as with Charles II - his brother took the phone when he died, as despite numerous and openly acknowledged children by his mistresses, he had no legitimate option. The fact that C&C married 37 years down the line doesn't legitimise a previously born child.

But it's all pie in the sky because it didn't happen.

OptimisticMermaid · 19/10/2024 16:26

I think there should be a dna test to say yes or no. There is a small possibility that prince Charles, as a 16 year old heir to the throne could have had an illegitimate child with Camilla who was around in his social circle and who he quite clearly fancied from an early age. For it to be hushed up and hidden fits in with the family ‘principles’. That man deserves some sort of closure.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 16:28

Applemayjune · 19/10/2024 16:18

But look at the full story.

Martin Bashir faked documents to show that tiggy legge bourke had an abortion, and gave them to Diana

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No justification.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 16:28

OptimisticMermaid · 19/10/2024 16:26

I think there should be a dna test to say yes or no. There is a small possibility that prince Charles, as a 16 year old heir to the throne could have had an illegitimate child with Camilla who was around in his social circle and who he quite clearly fancied from an early age. For it to be hushed up and hidden fits in with the family ‘principles’. That man deserves some sort of closure.

He needs to get help.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 16:30

Sethera · 19/10/2024 16:25

I think he wants attention and validation for a narrative he's created that is presumably comforting or satisfying to him as an adopted child who doesn't know who his birth parents were.

As has been pointed out on the thread, and as he must be aware if he's done an iota of research, an illegitimate child can never be the heir to the throne - even if there are no other options, as with Charles II - his brother took the phone when he died, as despite numerous and openly acknowledged children by his mistresses, he had no legitimate option. The fact that C&C married 37 years down the line doesn't legitimise a previously born child.

But it's all pie in the sky because it didn't happen.

Yes, that's the point that needs to be made. It's not how the inheritance works.

OptimisticMermaid · 19/10/2024 16:30

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 16:28

He needs to get help.

That would be the help he needs to move on. Simple test. Sorts it all out. Or the RF don’t want it sorted out because they know the truth.

MayaKovskaya · 19/10/2024 16:32

OptimisticMermaid · 19/10/2024 16:30

That would be the help he needs to move on. Simple test. Sorts it all out. Or the RF don’t want it sorted out because they know the truth.

Or they can't give in to every chancer and crackpot out there.