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To think it’s perfectly reasonable to divorce over sex?

115 replies

scranonstrangler · 18/10/2024 20:13

I see alot of threads on here about the shock of sexless marriages ending in divorce when they’re otherwise “happy”. But I just don’t understand the point in being married and not having sex.

Even if there’s some level of erectile dysfunction you can have intimacy. If your sex drive is completely permanently shot why is it a shock if someone goes elsewhere?

Having a baby didn’t change that for me and neither did bereavement.

Genuinely interested in explanations because I can’t fathom having 0 interest in sex.

OP posts:
scranonstrangler · 18/10/2024 21:28

Bellatrixpure · 18/10/2024 21:06

Bereavement is very recent and drive not back to where it was.

My loss has completely changed me in more ways than just this, I’m less patient now and feel very irritated easily. Hoping it’s not forever 😞

I’m sorry for your loss x Hope you get to a new normal that feels more like yourself x

OP posts:
Discombobble · 18/10/2024 21:33

scranonstrangler · 18/10/2024 21:26

That’s probably right then. I think I waited 8 weeks but had been thinking about it from about 3/4.

I think you’ll find that’s not everyone’s experience!

TammyJones · 18/10/2024 21:34

Icanttakethisanymore · 18/10/2024 20:23

Well I’m breastfeeding and have no drive whatsoever. Maybe he should leave me?

Breast feeding didn't put me off ..,,,

Schoolhelp23 · 18/10/2024 21:39

Bellatrixpure · 18/10/2024 21:06

Bereavement is very recent and drive not back to where it was.

My loss has completely changed me in more ways than just this, I’m less patient now and feel very irritated easily. Hoping it’s not forever 😞

2 years in for me, and same. I'm not the same person.

JenniferBooth · 18/10/2024 21:40

Smartiepants79 · 18/10/2024 21:11

A bit that many people don’t have in their vows any longer. I didn’t.
Sex may be hugely important to you.
Its isn’t so much to many other people.
There is a myriad of reasons why sex and intimacy can become difficult or less wanted. People have differing libidos etc. For the first 6 months of our babies life I can honestly say that sex was absolutely the last thing I was interested in. In fact for several months it would have been physically impossible. Should my lovely DH have left me and our tiny baby?? Cos he wasn’t getting his end away.
If my DH broke up our family because he wasn’t getting as many orgasms as he thought he should I would lose all respect.

DH and i havent had any physical touch for a long time. 28 years. That is NOTHING like the temporary cessation of sex and/or intimacy after babies. No hugs when our beautiful cat was PTS eight years ago or when my dad died on 6 October. Contrast with OM who held me all day last Thursday while i sobbed.

The mistake you have made was assuming its all about putting a penis inside a vagina. Its so much more than that. Its about the intimacy that surrounds it and a strong emotional connection. Its not all about just a physical act.

WideFootWelly · 18/10/2024 21:41

Tbh, my husband has a similar attitude towards it. And it puts a lot of pressure on me. I know it's not deliberate, but I can't give him a date it'll change or a concrete reason. But every so often he gets fed up and questions whether we'll ever have sex again, is this what our life is now etc etc.

I want to want sex, and I used to want sex. I have spoken to the GP and have started HRT (which hasn't been the miracle cure he was hoping for).

I suppose he should cheat on me, would that be OK?

Smartiepants79 · 18/10/2024 21:47

You’re right, and I agree. But I don’t get the impression that’s what the OP is talking about. She says sex specifically.
Sex is not the same and hugs and handholds and kisses. A marriage without those things is probably done.
A marriage without sex should not be, in my opinion.

scranonstrangler · 18/10/2024 21:49

EffortlesslyInelegant · 18/10/2024 20:59

So much this. OP it's really none of your bloody business. What are you doing wondering about this kind of thing? It's not your concern. Nothing to do with you. I couldn't care less if other people are at it like rabbits or living as friends. I find it so very odd that anyone would care about this. What on earth is wrong with you?

I’m allowed to think and talk about whatever this isn’t an academic journal.

I saw a thread and it got me thinking. Chill out, you didn’t even need to comment if it wound you up that much 😂

OP posts:
VivianLea · 18/10/2024 21:51

What is going on, this is literally the third trending thread on this topic tonight.

In answer to your question: people have different priorities, isn't that obvious? I can't imagine being in a relationship with someone who demands sex three times a week, but as MN shows, many people are in such a relationship. I also can't imagine being in a relationship with a man who expects me to do his laundry, it's just a completely outlandish idea to me. But I understand that these things aren't important to other people.

VivianLea · 18/10/2024 21:54

TammyJones · 18/10/2024 21:34

Breast feeding didn't put me off ..,,,

Good for you, but it did put the poster you're responding to off. So what, should her husband leave her, because Tammy Jones from MN wasn't affected by breastfeeding?

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 18/10/2024 22:02

Mebebecat · 18/10/2024 20:39

I absolutely love living with DH. And sex is such a tiny part of that. It's not even 1% of the glue that holds us together.

Does he agree though?

I agree @scranonstrangler, I couldn't live in a sexless marriage even if I'm not overly sexual at the moment. I think your "being pregnant and bereavement didn't bother me" sort of thing isn't helpful. There are many nuances to being in a relationship, and I think yours is out of the norm.

TeamPlaying · 18/10/2024 22:06

You think I’m weird for not really caring about sex, I think you’re weird for caring about it so much.

People are different! Yes of course if partners become incompatible for whatever reason they may be happiest separating.

Missemiss83 · 18/10/2024 22:07

Icanttakethisanymore · 18/10/2024 20:23

Well I’m breastfeeding and have no drive whatsoever. Maybe he should leave me?

Same same :(

EnfysHeulenEira · 18/10/2024 22:11

Icanttakethisanymore · 18/10/2024 20:23

Well I’m breastfeeding and have no drive whatsoever. Maybe he should leave me?

Maybe he should? It depends doesn't it? Breast feeding a 4 year old and co sleeping? Perfectly ok for your DH to go yeah nah this isn't working.

Ebf an 8 week old? Unreasonable.

And I say that with a ebf 2 week old

BunnyLake · 18/10/2024 22:15

Didimum · 18/10/2024 20:54

I mean, I think you should stop thinking so much about other people’s sex lives or lack thereof, OP. Why on earth do you care?

Yes I was going to ask the same. Who cares what other couples are or are not doing with their sex lives. I’ve never given other people’s sex life, or lack of, a thought. I mean you sound irritated by it OP.

Didimum · 18/10/2024 22:22

scranonstrangler · 18/10/2024 21:49

I’m allowed to think and talk about whatever this isn’t an academic journal.

I saw a thread and it got me thinking. Chill out, you didn’t even need to comment if it wound you up that much 😂

You’re allowed to do what you want, but starting a thread about it, whereby you ‘don’t understand the point’, ‘can’t fathom’ and are ‘keen to understand’ is just downright weird. No one should have that level of invested thought in other people’s sex lives.

And I say this as someone who has a very active sex life. I feel sorry for people you post on here who feel ignored and neglected in whatever their needs are in a marriage, but it stops there. If they are able to happily resolve it in either direction, then great.

MellersSmellers · 18/10/2024 22:25

Wait till you and your partner are 60+
A 40 Yr marriage is certainy about more than sex.

JenniferBooth · 18/10/2024 22:26

MellersSmellers · 18/10/2024 22:25

Wait till you and your partner are 60+
A 40 Yr marriage is certainy about more than sex.

OM is 68

PickAChew · 18/10/2024 22:28

JenniferBooth · 18/10/2024 20:53

Why get married if you dont believe in the with my body i thee worship bit

Because not everyone takes that vow. It doesn't even feature in a civil marriage ceremony.

NZDreaming · 18/10/2024 22:29

@scranonstrangler there is a big difference between sex and intimacy. Perfectly illustrated by @gestroopd whose toxic relationship included some sex but absolutely no intimacy.

I have a friend who due to medical need had a full hysterectomy before turning 30. After that she didn’t have sec with her husband for over 2 years and I don’t think it will ever be what it was pre surgery. They are still very much in love, connected and I don’t think if the sex stopped again that it would be the end of their relationship.

I know someone else whose husband nearly died due to an entirely random health issue a few years ago. He is generally recovered but so far they have not had sex since he was in hospital. She considers that they have intimacy in other ways, she would like to have sex again at some point but if he never wanted to again she wouldn’t leave. They are still in love and show each other affection, they are happy and she tells me she’s got a very good vibrator!

Sex isn’t the main crux of marriage for most people, what they actually need is physical connection, emotional understanding and clear affection. Obviously a mutually accepted level of sexual contact with s the ideal but often one person will be more keen than the other based on a whole host of factors. Sex drive varies for so many reasons and as much as I enjoy sex I wouldn’t leave my husband if we never had sec again. I’d be sad about it and try to work out if there was anything to be done to change the circumstances but I made vows for life and no one is owed sex in marriage.

Needmorelego · 18/10/2024 22:29

You can be asexual but still enjoy romance and want the stability/security of being married.

suki1964 · 18/10/2024 22:33

What was left of my sex drive going through menopause , was killed completely through taking medication

Would I mind my DH looking for sex outside the marriage, not really, not if that was all it was. If he had an affair? Hmmmmmmmmm

PickAChew · 18/10/2024 22:33

And unless I'm misunderstanding the reference to OM, why be so het up on one marriage vow but not the one about forsaking all others? A bit pick and choose, no?

LoveTheRainAndSun · 18/10/2024 22:34

JenniferBooth · 18/10/2024 20:53

Why get married if you dont believe in the with my body i thee worship bit

That was never in my vows but I think it is an expectation when you get married that there will be sex. Of course, when I was 18 and getting married, I had no idea of all the ups and downs of life, medically, emotionally and practically, that can affect the sex life. I think it's reasonable to accept and ride out that there will be ups and downs with sex, like with everything else. If someone decides unilaterally to just shut up shop without any discussion or good reason, then the other side can consider if they want to stay in the marriage. Sex isn't something I'd leave my DH over at this point though.

JenniferBooth · 18/10/2024 22:34

PickAChew · 18/10/2024 22:33

And unless I'm misunderstanding the reference to OM, why be so het up on one marriage vow but not the one about forsaking all others? A bit pick and choose, no?

Yes but its also pick and choose when its the reverse.

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