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To think MN is horrible about blended families?

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kungfullama · 18/10/2024 11:56

I've seen so many posts recently that just leads to think MN sees blended families as second class somehow.

Threads where ex wives are behaving horribly and withholding contact but are being defended because 'they were left' so somehow have the right to pass their bitterness onto their kids.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents as if conflict doesn't ever occur in traditional families too.

Insinuating that new partners are just flash in the pan 'boyfriends' even when the relationship is long term or they're married.

Blended families can be complicated and the dynamics might be slightly different. But I know for a fact my dc lives are so much better with their bio parents apart and made considerably richer with the involvement of their two loving stepparents. I don't see us as being lesser than a traditional family. Not sure why others do.

OP posts:
gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 15:18

Yep, just wait.

But they won't because they want to share bills etc.

Gogogo12345 · 18/10/2024 15:19

RatitesUnite · 18/10/2024 12:41

The only blended family I have ever seen be positive for the children was a widowed woman with 3 kids marrying a childless man. No step siblings, no exes, no split homes and he was a good dad to those kids.

Edited

I think if there's no kids on one side it's a bloody great help. I had no issue when my dad married my step mum when I was 12. But she didn't come complete with another set of kids. I still get on extremely well with her, we meet up, chat often she cooks me dinner when I visit etc and my dad passed away 6 years ago.

I did still see my mum after my parents divorced. But in reality was closer to my stepmum

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:19

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:16

The thing is though is the assumption that the kids will see him as a "father figure". They might do, I'm not saying they won't. But I don't see my stepdad as a father figure, he was my mum's husband and that's the extent of it.

Totally, that's fair enough. They might, or they might not, as you say. None of us has a crystal ball. I hope they at least see him as another friendly adult on their side. We do try to work hard towards this.

reesiespieces · 18/10/2024 15:21

soupfiend · 18/10/2024 12:22

Agree OP

I hate the phrase blended family anyway

People have remarried and had step parents for hundreds of years. These days its about divorce and separation, in the old days it was through death, either way lots of children throughout history have had step parents

Yes divorce puts a different spin on it due to possibility of acrimony and the logistics of having all your parents around still (possibly) but not every single thing in a family has to be done with the child at the forefront.

Adults have relationships and sometimes life moves on, protect the children as best you can from any falling out but in essence a new family/step family can work positively.

Just like a birth family can work negatively.

Yes and the attitude towards step parents were negative enough that you get a ton of folktales with the trope of the evil stepmother.

Like others have said you aren't going to get the posts where everything is going great. MN isn't the place to go if you want balanced experiences.

SlugsWon · 18/10/2024 15:22

I met DH when DS was 7, he moved in when DS was 10. We had a child together when DS was 14. Whatever nonsense people spout on these threads, having a 2 parent household has been only a good thing for my now adult son, with all of the benefits that 2 parents bring!

ZoeCM · 18/10/2024 15:23

Ramblomatic · 18/10/2024 14:55

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents

The first rule of MumsNet Club is "You must LTB"

Partner cheated? LTB

Partner left some dirty washing in the sink? LTB

Partner walked past a member of the opposite sex on a busy high street and didn't immediately cross the street screaming "I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP!! I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP AND I LOVE HER!!!"? LTB

This isn't just MN, actually - it's spreading to younger age groups. It's called "Dump Him" culture. There are TikTok trends about abitrary challenges you should give your boyfriend - e.g. the "orange peel test" (Google it) - to see if he really cares about you. Basically, what's happening is that society is more media-driven than ever before, because we have easy access to so many TV shows, films, books, etc. Women are increasingly expecting real relationships to be as perfect as fictional ones - and when they inevitably fall short, the advice is to dump your partner. (It's the female counterpart of what's happening with men: men are increasingly expecting their girlfriends to look/act like porn stars.)

There's absolutely nothing with being happily single - it's great when it's what you really want! But the problem is, these women aren't dumping their partners because they want to be single - they're dumping them because they think he's getting in the way of meeting a near-flawless man. Completely normal relationships in which couples occasionally argue and take each other for granted are being reframed as "toxic".

Namechange83649 · 18/10/2024 15:25

SometimesCalmPerson · 18/10/2024 12:03

My mum would have said that my life was better with the addition of a step parent and step siblings too, but she was wrong.

Blended families are very rarely in the best interests of children, they can cause a lot of difficulty and heartache and they often exist because parents put their need for a live in relationship ahead of their children’s needs.

I know some blended families are genuinely happy and successful but it is rare. Usually the parents project the idea that everyone is happy because it suits them to believe that, but in reality the children would rather just live with their biological family.

First post nails it.

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:26

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:19

Totally, that's fair enough. They might, or they might not, as you say. None of us has a crystal ball. I hope they at least see him as another friendly adult on their side. We do try to work hard towards this.

It's a very difficult balance to strike. Ages of kids probably come into it as well. My mum remarried when I was 14 so at that age I definitely didn't want a "new dad". He didn't want me around either to be fair so my view is skewed and I fucked off to live with my boyfriend when I was 17. To me it seems like far more work than it's worth hovering between trying not to overstep boundaries because after all "you're not my mum/dad" and actually gaining that respect.

MrsMitford3 · 18/10/2024 15:26

Just to say sometimes it is a happy family-my parents divorced when I was around 10 (a looong time ago) and I can honestly say I adored my step mother and step siblings.
It was primarily because of my step mother which I sort of knew at the time but in hindsight am so grateful for her.

My devilishly handsome and charming father had several more wives spanning decades but am still in touch with her and love her very much.

So sometimes it can work-for a while at least...

kungfullama · 18/10/2024 15:27

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:06

It's very interesting that most of us who were the kids in the blended family situation are saying it's pretty shit, and most of the ones defending it are the adults who have put their kids in that situation. Says it all!

Actually posted up thread about my stepfather and what an asset to my life he was.

OP posts:
BubziOwl · 18/10/2024 15:27

Ozgirl75 · 18/10/2024 12:07

I know a few blended families and the mums always say how happy they are and how well the kids get on, but I hear very different stories from the kids via my son.

I agree with this. However, I did have a friend in school who had a very happy blended family, so it certainly can be done. I loved being at her house, they had a very happy home. Looking back now as an adult myself, I can see all the adults involved were putting in a huge amount of effort and it paid off.

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:28

kungfullama · 18/10/2024 15:27

Actually posted up thread about my stepfather and what an asset to my life he was.

Which is why I said "most" not "all".

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/10/2024 15:29

Blended families are not inferior but they can even more difficult to navigate than nuclear families because they are more complicated.
They quite often start with the children feeling confused and hurt that one of their parents has moved out of the family home, and more of the same when another adult moves in, and even more if they come with kids of their own who take up what has been the original children's space, time and attention. And vice versa for the children who are moving in, leaving their own family nest.
This is a lot to get over. Some blended families end up happy and successful but it's hard for the children, who have not chosen these big changes at all, and very likely wish their parents were still together and both still living with them.
That is not to say that parents shouldn't go ahead - they may see it as the best option for themselves and their children. But that doesn't make it easy.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:29

betterangels · 18/10/2024 15:17

Sapphire387 Sorry for your loss. But no one is saying you shouldn't have a relationship. Having a relationship and not moving unrelated men into your children's home... that's possible.

Of course it is possible. It's just not what we chose to do.

To be honest, I think we had a hard lot with my first husband passing away, it was a long way from ideal. My husband was also widowed and I have a stepdaughter. So we are blended but in a single household with no custody issues etc. It is 'neater' at least, I guess.

This is how we choose to do things for ourselves and our kids. Maybe we are wrong- but I'm not basing that on what people on mumsnet say. As I said in a previous post, it's not like I can run two parallel lives and say it would definitely have been better to stay living separately. Nobody has a crystal ball. We just try our best. We also have a baby daughter and all our kids dote on her. I refuse to believe it was the wrong thing to do. But perhaps I have my head in the sand, as a previous poster has suggested.

God, this place is depressing sometimes, always attributing bad motives or selfishness to everyone.

ThisGreySeal · 18/10/2024 15:29

Having been part of a blended family as a child, I vowed never to be in one again. We'd been brought up very differently to my DM's (widowed) 2DH older DCs, and they outnumbered us, bullied us and were deeply unpleasant. It was full-time and full-on. There was obvious favouritism towards them from their DF, who 'helpfully' took over DM finances and controlled everything. We were barely tolerated and left as soon as possible, never returned. It completely fractured our relationship with DM, which never fully recovered.
I avoided dating anyone with children, and more than once, after I started seeing someone and found out they had DC, I walked away. If nothing else, it gave DB and me very clear relationship boundaries. Having grown up in a blended family, I vowed never to be part of one again. My siblings and I were raised quite differently from my mother's (widowed) older children's father’s kids. They outnumbered us, bullied us, and were often unpleasant. It was an overwhelming situation with constant conflict. There was evident favouritism from their father, who took control of my mother’s finances and managed everything. We felt barely tolerated and left as soon as possible, never returning. This experience severely fractured our relationship with our mother, which never fully healed.
As a result, I made a conscious effort to avoid dating anyone with children. More than once, when I discovered that someone I was dating had kids, I chose to walk away. This approach helped my DS and me establish clear relationship boundaries. We are both now parents and happily married (decades) to our first and only partners.

nosmartphone · 18/10/2024 15:30

As someone who works with children, yet to find one child who is happy with their new stepdad/stepmum/stepsiblings relationship. Not one. Even the ones who say they're happy to their Mum's face. Behind your back, that's not the case.

let's be honest here, if you were putting your children first you would stay single until they've grown up and moved out. But for a whole host of reasons (could be financial, could be merely lonliness/sexual desire) they've put their love life first and the children second.

I'm actually currently wincing watching a woman I know who has moved in a man I happen to know (completely coincidental I might add that they know each other now apparently!) . 4 kids I know all now forced together. They don't know I know each family so I'm hearing both sides moaning about the other. Stupid thing was, the woman had a perfectly nice husband (nice but dull granted) and the man had a lovely wife. Both thought the grass was greener. Might be for them. Dertainly isn't for the kids.Both sets of kids just want their own parents back together but they've both having far too much new sex to even notice!

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:32

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:26

It's a very difficult balance to strike. Ages of kids probably come into it as well. My mum remarried when I was 14 so at that age I definitely didn't want a "new dad". He didn't want me around either to be fair so my view is skewed and I fucked off to live with my boyfriend when I was 17. To me it seems like far more work than it's worth hovering between trying not to overstep boundaries because after all "you're not my mum/dad" and actually gaining that respect.

I'm sorry it didn't work out well in your teens in terms of 'new dad' or rather not 'new dad'. Definitely such a difficult balance, as you say.

Ours were younger, we've been married a few years now and our eldest is still only 13. I think that has maybe made it a little easier. But no, it's not always easy.

MyFairMintCat · 18/10/2024 15:35

ZoeCM · 18/10/2024 15:23

This isn't just MN, actually - it's spreading to younger age groups. It's called "Dump Him" culture. There are TikTok trends about abitrary challenges you should give your boyfriend - e.g. the "orange peel test" (Google it) - to see if he really cares about you. Basically, what's happening is that society is more media-driven than ever before, because we have easy access to so many TV shows, films, books, etc. Women are increasingly expecting real relationships to be as perfect as fictional ones - and when they inevitably fall short, the advice is to dump your partner. (It's the female counterpart of what's happening with men: men are increasingly expecting their girlfriends to look/act like porn stars.)

There's absolutely nothing with being happily single - it's great when it's what you really want! But the problem is, these women aren't dumping their partners because they want to be single - they're dumping them because they think he's getting in the way of meeting a near-flawless man. Completely normal relationships in which couples occasionally argue and take each other for granted are being reframed as "toxic".

Oh come on, young people have always been a bit silly and self-absorbed. At some point they all grow up and realise what love and life are all about.

Especially after having experienced some real challenges.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/10/2024 15:36

I’m sure there are happy blended families out there, but the fact that kids don’t complain does not mean they’re happy.

I agree. No doubt some children are happy in a blended family, but some really are not, and their parents don't always want to hear that because it is very painful. Most parents love their children and want them to be happy, so the thought of making them unhappy is excruciating.

Fevertreelover · 18/10/2024 15:37

kungfullama · 18/10/2024 13:11

Would love to see the source of your 90% statistic.

I suppose ours is simpler in that neither my dh or my ex's wife brought children into the relationship although there are now younger half siblings on both sides. But no step siblings. And everyone has their own (decent sized) bedroom.

I wouldn't class it as blended if only there are only children from one partner. That's just a new relationship to me.

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 15:39

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:39

How old are the children?

They won't have fully formed opinions on the situation until they look back with adult eyes. It can take them having children of their own to really see it too.

They vary. 20s, teenagers and 6 year olds.

DaemonMoon · 18/10/2024 15:39

I have step everything. No issues.

My thoughts however, for those who are negative are, dont they realise for 'blended' families to exist, the 'original' family was shit too. Not going to bother caveating with x y z.

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 15:42

OhTediosity · 18/10/2024 14:42

I've now known enough families of all descriptions to understand that, really, the only people to judge whether a family is genuinely happy are the people within it - and even then, perspectives will vary. I don't think I could confidently make a judgement that almost any of the families I know, whether nuclear or blended, are truly happy. Whether or not they are functional, perhaps, but not whether they are happy. Interesting that so many pp seem confident in assessing this.

Okay then. They seem functional. I can only comment on my experience with them, one being my brother.

Anxioustealady · 18/10/2024 15:44

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 14:02

I'm with you, OP. There are lots of women here confidently proclaiming that blended families are mostly shit. There's also a tone that you're somehow selfish if you have the audacity to seek another relationship while you have kids.

Personally I think there are some women being bitter and insecure - insecure that their husband might one day leave them and want someone else, or their children might one day be close to another woman. Or some women in unhappy marriages but stay in their misery because you know, at least they're not selfish enough to leave and pursue happiness. So they have to proclaim that blended families are the worst possible thing. It gives them someone to look down on, and a sense that that would never happen to them because they are just so sensible and unselfish.

There's a heavy dose of 'well if I was in that position, I wouldn't', when in reality, people often don't know unless they are in that position.

In reality, plenty of 'nuclear' families don't work, and plenty of blended ones do. And vice versa. There's no blanket rule, all people and all families are different. All I hear on here is 'well I knew someone who didn't like growing up in a blended family'. Fair enough. My husband didn't like growing up in a nuclear family where his mum should probably have divorced his alcoholic father, but didn't. We all have our experiences.

Of course, people tend to post on mumsnet when things are going wrong, so by that rule, all blended families are shit, but so are all men, and so are all first marriages.

Edited

A lot of people commenting here are former step CHILDREN who remember how shit their childhoods were and how it impacted them, but please continue to ignore that fact as ever, and pretend children love having random strangers living with them suddenly. That's definitely more convenient for you

EarthSight · 18/10/2024 15:44

SometimesCalmPerson · 18/10/2024 12:03

My mum would have said that my life was better with the addition of a step parent and step siblings too, but she was wrong.

Blended families are very rarely in the best interests of children, they can cause a lot of difficulty and heartache and they often exist because parents put their need for a live in relationship ahead of their children’s needs.

I know some blended families are genuinely happy and successful but it is rare. Usually the parents project the idea that everyone is happy because it suits them to believe that, but in reality the children would rather just live with their biological family.

This - the potential for unhappiness for the children is high.

Either they are forced to live with a step-parent and / or children they never asked to live with, or feel emotionally obliged to do this having witnessed how said their parent is.