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Pizza Hut Buffet

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IAKnowyou · 14/10/2024 17:46

Posting here to hopefully get some quick answers.

So I will be going to Pizza Hut for the buffet, at the weekend with my child for one of her friend's parties.
There's a few of us going, and I've had a look online and at weekends it is 15.99 per adult and 10.99 for children !
I am absolutely not going to eat 15.99 worth of pizza! And I doubt my child will eat £11 worth.
Would I be unreasonable to just pay for my child and maybe have a slice of pizza or 2?
I know they charge different per head to stop this. But how do they police this ??
It's not a huge deal, but I would definitely like to know before I go, and like to know if other people do this or not ?
Thanks !

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grumpygrape · 17/10/2024 13:54

Pay for one child. Tell them to pile their plate high and the rest of the party clears their leftovers. Seemples.

StormingNorman · 17/10/2024 14:08

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 17/10/2024 09:41

I think we all get it. OP was wrong to think she could legitimately do this.

But I’m interested to know whether those who keep going over the rules and restrictions of the deal really think sharing one small-to-average buffet portion is exactly the same as nicking stuff off the shelf. I know they’ll say it is, but I wonder if they really think that 🤷‍♀️

Yes I do think it’s the same.

honeybeetheoneandonly · 17/10/2024 16:08

OP and her DC will eat one pizza between them. That pizza needs paying for.
I find it weird to think if she pays single price it's fine but if she pays buffet price (which may be more expensive) she is a thief.

surreygirl1987 · 17/10/2024 16:20

honeybeetheoneandonly · 17/10/2024 16:08

OP and her DC will eat one pizza between them. That pizza needs paying for.
I find it weird to think if she pays single price it's fine but if she pays buffet price (which may be more expensive) she is a thief.

Okay, you can think it's weird if you want, but that's the system and that's the rules.

liveforsummer · 17/10/2024 16:46

dreamer24 · 17/10/2024 09:53

@ThornVampire
No of course he shouldn't, but we've all put buffet food on our plates thinking we will eat it and then we are too full. So in the scenario I've described, my point was, it makes no tangible difference Pizza Hut as those slices are gone anyway. I was illustrating how this is not the same as shoplifting something, where there is a clear tangible, quantifiable loss to the company (ie the value of the item stolen).

The "but Jane is taking a paying customer's place" argument makes absolutely no sense when you consider the fact that Bob could easily have occupied a table for two by himself as a solo diner - the other chair still cannot be used by another paying customer until Bob has left, unless restaurants seat random strangers at tables with solo diners? I've never seen this happen personally (because it's ludicrous). Therefore, whether Jane sits with Bob, whether she eats or not, they are in the same situation they'd have been in if Bob dined solo and ate all 17 pieces by himself.

Your point is wrong though, as eating those two wasted slices means someone is doing so instead of being a paying customer. If they weren't hoovering up leftovers, Pizza Hut would be £15.99 up

dreamer24 · 17/10/2024 16:53

Your point is wrong though, as eating those two wasted slices means someone is doing so instead of being a paying customer. If they weren't hoovering up leftovers, Pizza Hut would be £15.99 up

Not if Bob had eaten it. They'd be in the same position.

But I'm not going over it again 🤣

We can agree to disagree, that's absolutely allowed.

ComtesseDeSpair · 17/10/2024 17:17

dreamer24 · 17/10/2024 16:53

Your point is wrong though, as eating those two wasted slices means someone is doing so instead of being a paying customer. If they weren't hoovering up leftovers, Pizza Hut would be £15.99 up

Not if Bob had eaten it. They'd be in the same position.

But I'm not going over it again 🤣

We can agree to disagree, that's absolutely allowed.

It’s a reasonably daft argument. The restaurant would be in the same position on one single occasion where Bob had a slice of pizza left which would either go in the bin or in Jane’s gob, yes; but as soon as every customer worked out they could get a two for the price of one deal on the buffet by having one person pay for it and everyone else tucking into their “leftovers” free of charge, they’d very soon be in an entirely different position.

liveforsummer · 17/10/2024 17:20

But Jane wanted some pizza and if bob hadn't left any she'd have had to buy one 😅

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 17:48

The cost of the buffet is for access, not dependent upon the amount of food that one does or does not consume.

Same as a ticket at a cinema: You pay whether or not you stay for the entire film. You don't say "Oh I'm going to leave 30 minutes before the end, so my child and I can just share the same ticket." Or worse, "I don't care for this film but my kid wants to see it, so I'll just pay for her and sit next her not enjoying the film at all."

If you want to access a seat in the cinema, you pay the stated ticket price. If you want to access the all-you-can-eat buffet, whether for half a slice of pizza or five pounds of food, you pay the stated price.

If you don't like the price, you go elsewhere.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 17/10/2024 18:02

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 17:48

The cost of the buffet is for access, not dependent upon the amount of food that one does or does not consume.

Same as a ticket at a cinema: You pay whether or not you stay for the entire film. You don't say "Oh I'm going to leave 30 minutes before the end, so my child and I can just share the same ticket." Or worse, "I don't care for this film but my kid wants to see it, so I'll just pay for her and sit next her not enjoying the film at all."

If you want to access a seat in the cinema, you pay the stated ticket price. If you want to access the all-you-can-eat buffet, whether for half a slice of pizza or five pounds of food, you pay the stated price.

If you don't like the price, you go elsewhere.

People keep coming up with these analogies that don’t work. You can’t share a film in the same way as you share a pizza, obviously.

You’re right that OP can’t share the pizza in the way she wanted. You’re right she was planning to do something against the rules.

But as another poster said, it’s quite absurd to accuse OP of stealing when she could pay for a pizza to share, for a cheaper price, and get the same amount of food. Yes, it’s against the rules, but it’s definitely not the same as nicking stuff out of the restaurant kitchen. Those who keep blindly insisting it is don’t seem to be capable of any sort of nuance.

CrowleyKitten · 17/10/2024 18:13

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/10/2024 20:25

Of course it is.

All you can eat means you pay if you eat 1 slice or 10 slices. It doesn’t say those with small appetites are excluded from paying in the small print.

right. I have a small appetite. I am unlikely to get my moneys worth from a buffet, so rarely have one. that said, if I'm out with my husband and my friend, who both eat SO much they definitely get their moneys worth, I'll justify it, as I know they're making up for what I can't eat, and we have a nice time. I do enjoy a buffet, because I like a little bit of lots of things, rather than lots of one or two. but I know that quantity wise, I'm definitely not eating the cost worth. and also, my husband will probably finish off anything off my plate too, which is fine, if we've both paid for the buffet.
at our local Chinese, they will charge a small fee if you leave much uneaten, and you definitely can't take it home (otherwise everyone would reload with another meals worth to take away for the next day) and that seems perfectly justified to me.

CrowleyKitten · 17/10/2024 18:18

IcedPurple · 14/10/2024 20:33

It's wrong because she hasn't paid for the food she's eating.

Pizza Hut is a business. If you want to eat their food, you pay. Her daughter is getting the child's rate because it's assumed she'll eat less, not because an adult is too mean to pay for her own food and wants to sneak in a few slices on the sly.

and then they complain it costs as much as it does....

dreamer24 · 17/10/2024 18:29

@ComtesseDeSpair

It’s a reasonably daft argument.

Again, happy to agree to disagree 😅

It's obviously not daft to me - to me it's logical and explains clearly why shoplifting is not even in the same league and a silly comparison.

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 19:08

It doesn't have to be exactly the same act as shoplifting to be equally criminal and wrong.

Someone trying to feed two people for the price of one buffet is stealing, period.

Sad how many people justify thieving and cheating.

CrowleyKitten · 17/10/2024 19:26

dreamer24 · 14/10/2024 21:03

Pizza hut is absolutely rank

I respectfully disagree. It's literally all I've been able to think about for the past hour or so thanks to this thread 😭

I mean, it's not GREAT, but this thread has made me rather fancy it. there's better pizzas all over the place, but I used to LOVE their salad bar. even if my salad was mostly layers of potato salad with those bacon breadcrumbs and croutons, back in the day. I could be tempted.

dreamer24 · 17/10/2024 19:46

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 19:08

It doesn't have to be exactly the same act as shoplifting to be equally criminal and wrong.

Someone trying to feed two people for the price of one buffet is stealing, period.

Sad how many people justify thieving and cheating.

🤦🏼‍♀️

Look, I didn't comment on the moral aspect of it, did I. I simply said, it's not the same in terms of tangible, quantifiable LOSS. And it's not, I stand by that.

I'm not going over it again, I'm bored 😂

CrowleyKitten · 17/10/2024 20:18

zeitweilig · 14/10/2024 21:28

A takeaway which you pay for maybe, not a freebie based on someone else paying.

I mean, I'm going back to late 80s, early 90s here. if you were having a takeaway, you could get different sized salad bar containers, which you had to be able to get the lid on, a bit like the Morrisons salad bar now. maybe they have a takeaway version of the buffet, where they DO have a set amount of container volume you can fill.

Sepoctnov · 17/10/2024 21:36

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 17/10/2024 18:02

People keep coming up with these analogies that don’t work. You can’t share a film in the same way as you share a pizza, obviously.

You’re right that OP can’t share the pizza in the way she wanted. You’re right she was planning to do something against the rules.

But as another poster said, it’s quite absurd to accuse OP of stealing when she could pay for a pizza to share, for a cheaper price, and get the same amount of food. Yes, it’s against the rules, but it’s definitely not the same as nicking stuff out of the restaurant kitchen. Those who keep blindly insisting it is don’t seem to be capable of any sort of nuance.

No that cinema analogy works fine. What is absurd is your argument. There's no nuance needed here. The buffet price is in black and white charged Per Person. What is so difficult to understand about this?

But you go ahead and write to Pizza Hut what you've written here. I'm sure you'll make them see sense.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 17/10/2024 22:54

Sepoctnov · 17/10/2024 21:36

No that cinema analogy works fine. What is absurd is your argument. There's no nuance needed here. The buffet price is in black and white charged Per Person. What is so difficult to understand about this?

But you go ahead and write to Pizza Hut what you've written here. I'm sure you'll make them see sense.

Well, no, the cinema analogy doesn’t work. If you share a film, as it were, you both get a whole film, whether or not you liked it. Not the case with a pizza.

Theres no grey area with a movie seat; you take up one space and you pay for it. If a non-paying person is taking up a seat, that could mean a loss to the cinema.

In a restaurant, your party might take up a whole table, but one individual’s presence doesn’t alter how many other tables of people can attend.

Neither is OP’s scenario the same as shoplifting.

Someone eating a slice of pizza off someone else’s plate might make no difference at all to the restaurant’s stock or takings, if that pizza was going to go in the bin. It might make some difference in some circumstances - but it’s by no means a set certainty. If someone takes something from a supermarket shelf, that’s always a definite, quantifiable loss. That’s the difference.

We’re not talking philosophically here or about moral right or wrong; I mean actual, real impact on the company. If you can’t see it’s different I doubt your comprehension skills.

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 23:00

If half of buffet patrons pay, instead of ALL buffet patrons, but 100 percent eat, that definitely has "actual, real impact on the company."

It's rather baffling that anyone is confused by this.

CrowleyKitten · 18/10/2024 00:45

liveforsummer · 15/10/2024 07:19

When mine were very small I'd pay for an adult and give dc a bit off my plate (checked with staff first) I don't see what age your dd is? That's a bit more acceptable but only really if 3 or under. It's a restaurant after all. It's normal for all parties to order something when going for a sit down table service meal! Were you aware the buffet is a lot more than just pizza? There is also pastas and a wide range of salad. You also don't have to order the buffet. Sounds like you are both small eaters so why not just order a small pizza to share from the main menu. Of course you can't just take slices off dd. If the staff member that serves you walks past and sees you eating they are going to charge you anyway (and probably tell all the other staff what a CF you are)

that's very different though. you paid an adult fee, and had a child too small to really take advantage of the child rate. I'm sure most reasonable places will let a toddler pick at an adults buffet meal.
but paying for a child and an adult eating from it is very different.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 18/10/2024 05:58

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 23:00

If half of buffet patrons pay, instead of ALL buffet patrons, but 100 percent eat, that definitely has "actual, real impact on the company."

It's rather baffling that anyone is confused by this.

But that’s not the situation we’re discussing 🤷‍♀️We’re specifically discussing the actual, material impact of someone who doesn’t want much to eat actually picking up a slice or two from another small eater’s place. If you really really think that has the same impact on the company as someone pocketing goods off the shelf, then we’re never going to resolve this.

Sethera · 18/10/2024 07:01

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/10/2024 17:48

The cost of the buffet is for access, not dependent upon the amount of food that one does or does not consume.

Same as a ticket at a cinema: You pay whether or not you stay for the entire film. You don't say "Oh I'm going to leave 30 minutes before the end, so my child and I can just share the same ticket." Or worse, "I don't care for this film but my kid wants to see it, so I'll just pay for her and sit next her not enjoying the film at all."

If you want to access a seat in the cinema, you pay the stated ticket price. If you want to access the all-you-can-eat buffet, whether for half a slice of pizza or five pounds of food, you pay the stated price.

If you don't like the price, you go elsewhere.

Or even "I saw when booking that there were plenty of empty seats, so I've brought my friend along to share my ticket as you'll be showing the film anyway so it won't cost you any more."

ComtesseDeSpair · 18/10/2024 11:39

Sethera · 18/10/2024 07:01

Or even "I saw when booking that there were plenty of empty seats, so I've brought my friend along to share my ticket as you'll be showing the film anyway so it won't cost you any more."

“The train will be going to Manchester whether I buy a ticket or not and there are loads of empty seats which wouldn’t be generating any money anyway so there won’t be any actual real impact on the company, I’m just going to travel without paying.”

It’s just bonkers logic!

EmeraldA129 · 18/10/2024 12:57

What you are suggesting is quite rude op. I’m gobsmacked you can’t see that! Most of the pizzas start around £18 so I’m not sure you’re going to get better value by opting out of the buffet, but do that instead of stealing pizza if that makes you feel better.