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Wynn Evans and Katya Jones “hand incident”

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Arche · 14/10/2024 14:28

Can’t see a thread on this.

What is everyone’s view on this? Have spoken to a couple of Strictly fans at work about the seemingly inappropriate touching of Katya by Wynne and am massively disappointed that many think it was harmless and the reaction is disproportionate.

Just sick of pervy men! He did it on camera! He only cared about getting a quick thrill

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Curryfortea · 14/10/2024 17:00

I’ve always thought the touchy feeliness is too much although I notice not all the couples do it. Vito and Sarah were ridiculous last night. He was cuddling her like he was consoling a baby. Karen and Paul were just standing side by side.

I can’t decide what to think about it as part of me wants to accept it as just his arms around her but I also found myself making an ugh face as it looked creepy. She did give him daggers when she turned around after the non-high five. It appeared like she was fed up of him messing around or maybe doesn’t like him at all.

On the other hand, she jumped all over him legs astride after they danced and she has said it was a joke and I feel like we should listen to her.

Lifeomars · 14/10/2024 17:02

Gave up watching Strictly about 4 years ago, used to love it. Seems as if it is in its death throes now with all the scandals and controversies. I don't really know why I stopped watching it, guess it all got a bit samey. Everything has its day, maybe Strictly needs to end.

ilovesooty · 14/10/2024 17:03

Arche · 14/10/2024 16:26

Saville’s wandering hands on TOTPs got explained away too

edit:sp

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Are you suggesting he's the kind of abuser Savile was?

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 14/10/2024 17:03

CwmYoy · 14/10/2024 16:39

I don't understand the huge fuss. If he wanted to grope her then there is plenty of opportunity during rehearsals. His hand is not creeping to her breast, it's on her waist. Just like all the others.

Hysterical over reaction I'd expect from the gutter press but I thought MN had more intelligent readers.

Yeah this. As someone said earlier, this is nothing more than bandwagon jumping, with masses of sheeple piling on to jab the knife in. (On here AND on the internet in general!)

Nasty.

Strangerthanfictions · 14/10/2024 17:04

SoupDragon · 14/10/2024 14:31

He had his hand on her stomach.

If he'd had it on her breast, bum or pubic area I could understand the fuss.

I don't think we get to choose where she is comfortable having people put their hands. I think it's reasonable to calmly move someone's hand if you don't like where they are putting it. Maybe it was aggressive, I've only watching it once and thought she just moved it

MidLifeMayhem · 14/10/2024 17:05

I agree re all the dancers and their partners are touchy, feely. Most of the time it’s absolutely ok. I do remember a couple of years ago watching Kim Marsh and Grazio (whatever his name was) got through and they were sitting in the couch with Claudia and the others who had got through - Kim had her hand resting on his inner thigh really close to his groin. It was unreal and something intimate lovers might do but you don’t often sit like that in public let alone on TV.

GretchenWienersHair · 14/10/2024 17:05

It’s not only the hand around her waist, it’s the way he slid it across. My stomach turned watching the clip before I even saw her move it back. I think with some men, you just get the creepy vibe. She’s been working closely with him both on and off camera; it seems to me that this isn’t the first gross thing he’s done.

There’s also the clip of him going to high five her and her turning away and cutting her eye. Clearly there’s more going on than we see, despite any claims of “silly jokes”.

Fleurdalys · 14/10/2024 17:06

Ffs
Who watches this shit anyway?

Newmumburnout · 14/10/2024 17:08

I don't watch it but just looked up the clip. It looks really awkward to me 😕 awful ! She clearly doesn't like him and he knows that would not have been wanted

StMarieforme · 14/10/2024 17:09

UsernameHistoryBook · 14/10/2024 14:33

I have big boobs. That hand would have felt uncomfortably close to my breasts. There is no way that that incident and the not high-fiving him were ‘inside jokes’…

She doesn't tho?

You might as well say " if his hand was 6 inches higher it would have been groping her boob". Which it wasn't.

Trumptonagain · 14/10/2024 17:09

Crunchymum · 14/10/2024 14:53

I must be thick but I don't get the joke?

Can anyone explain it to me?

Have a look on her Instagram page and she'll explain it for you herself.

Jessie1259 · 14/10/2024 17:12

Didn't Katya jump on him and hang off him round his neck and put her legs round him? Does anyone ask him if he's ok with that? Why does no one freak out over that but he moves his hand from the side of her tummy to the front of her tummy and it's the worst thing ever?

Katya is a very weird fish IMO, her boundaries are all over the place. I was amazed she was allowed back after she drunk snogged her dancing partner who was in a relationship -,not professional and if it had been a man I suspect he'd have been gone.

Funkyslippers · 14/10/2024 17:13

Trumptonagain · 14/10/2024 17:09

Have a look on her Instagram page and she'll explain it for you herself.

I thought the joke was the high five. The waist-touching is definitely not a joke and they're lying if they say it is. I'm not saying he did anything wrong per se but it's not funny either and definitely wasn't planned

Futhermucker · 14/10/2024 17:14

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Choosenandenough · 14/10/2024 17:14

I don’t know with this to be honest. Normal I would agree. And I’m not disagreeing. I’m just taking into consideration the fact that they’re dancing partners so ‘personal space’ is non existent and where as putting your hand there would normally be inappropriate, if you’ve been in that position day after day rehearsing … again I’m not sure on this one.

Startingagainandagain · 14/10/2024 17:16

I really don't get the 'joke' explanation.

Why would anyone would make a 'joke' like this on a show that has had several claims of inappropriate behaviours made by previous contestants?

More likely that the little creep did not expect her to move his hand...

Longma · 14/10/2024 17:17

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greenday16B · 14/10/2024 17:20

Wasn't the orignal premis , the idea that a famous person who was a novice dancer would learn? Famous. In the world of sport, media, acting.
Now we have aman who sings " Go Compare" and has issues with boudaries.

ShiteRider · 14/10/2024 17:20

Dotto · 14/10/2024 16:30

He didn't just 'pop' his hand around her waist though, did he? He was stroking his hand slowly down her abdomen

I must have watched something different from you. He moved his hand across her waist. She moved it back to her side. At no point in the bit I saw was his hand moving down anywhere.

Obviously ‘stroking his hand slowly down her abdomen’ sounds much more seedy than what I saw so I’d be interested to see if that was recorded.

Dotto · 14/10/2024 17:20

The slow, sliding, wandering hand was obviously not a joke. Regardless of what other things they both willingly choose to do with their bodies, it's acceptable for Katya to remove his hand. Some of these comments are hugely disappointing.

LuluBlakey1 · 14/10/2024 17:21

Arche · 14/10/2024 14:28

Can’t see a thread on this.

What is everyone’s view on this? Have spoken to a couple of Strictly fans at work about the seemingly inappropriate touching of Katya by Wynne and am massively disappointed that many think it was harmless and the reaction is disproportionate.

Just sick of pervy men! He did it on camera! He only cared about getting a quick thrill

SCD crosses all kinds of boundaries all the time- it sends mixed messages continually about what is appropriate. Women, and men, in costumes that can be very revealing, dance routines that can be very revealing in terms of splits and very short skirts, positions where legs end up on shoulders and around necks.
We often see, in rehearsals, professional dancers positioning their partners with their hands on their bodies. Katya jumped in the air with 'delight' at the end of one performance and threw her arms around his neck and wrapped her legs around his waist. Couples hug, cuddle and hold and nuzzle each other, whisper to each other, hold hands on the sofas and at the end of dance routines and as marks come in. The women jump on the men and are picked up and swung round. It is all over the top and fake.
I can't get worked up about the Wynne thing in particular but I am fed up with, on one hand, no one complaining about all if the above, or even people excusing it all, and, on the other, turning the Wynne thing into a huge drama and calling him a 'perv'.

Most of SCD reaction is false, done for effect and for the likes of the DM to whip up rumour from anyway.

Moier · 14/10/2024 17:21

She's been on telly and explained.. it's a private joke between the two of them

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StrongFemaleCharacter · 14/10/2024 17:24

SoupDragon · 14/10/2024 14:31

He had his hand on her stomach.

If he'd had it on her breast, bum or pubic area I could understand the fuss.

He nearly had his hand on her bum in the post-dance interview. I'm surprised no one is talking about that!