Risking a flaming but jealous of those on weight loss injections

[Notmyfinesthours]

I’ve specifically not put this in the weight loss section as I’d rather hear from those who aren’t dieting or thinking about it. Might help me find perspective better.

I am not overweight. I never have been.
I have however had what feels like a lifetime of making sure this is the case.

I suspect many women feel like me. Brought up to fear being fat or greedy or ‘let myself go’ as if it were the worst sin.

Ive skirted close to or actually been in the midst of orthorexia for most of my adult life. Always saying no to pudding, finding the latest food that will fill me up but not have too many calories and fixating on it before I find the next one. Exercising most days, fitting it in by missing lie ins or nights in front of the fire.

Fretting in pregnancy, menopause and any ill health leading to immobility that it might trigger weight gain.

you get the picture? Self flagellation is big driven by an instilled fear of being fat given to many in my generation (I’m 58) (and yes I know I should address this first- I am trying but the media doesn’t help)

Several of my friends and family are big eaters, always seem to have the toastie and cake when we are out and by their own admissions do little exercise. They have often jokingly talked about being slimmer but say they like food too much and ‘have no willpower’ and can’t be bothered to deny themselves for the sake of a few dress sizes.

I know it’s more complex than that but they basically enjoy life in the way it should be enjoyed to my mind and accept they will be a bit larger bodied. I’ve actually always really admired this as an attitude or at least been a bit jealous of it.

But with the new weight loss injections several of them have dropped weight significantly and are so slim and delighted.

I just feel so cheated. Like I’ve been so careful for so long and they haven’t but they get to be slim just with an injection.

I know it’s more complicated, I know it costs them money, might have risks etc but it’s clear so many celebs are doing the same and it feels like it’s not going to be more commonplace.

Why is this making me feel cheated and am I just an awful person?

Did 7.5 work?

I started one a few weeks ago under a different name and got my arse handed to me by the hard-core, who felt that it was lying to say people were getting it 'illegally', and I must be a troll wanting to rubbish anyone taking it. So no thanks.

I guess it depends where and how you ask. If you go on to the weight loss injections board starting a thread about it, they may think you’re assuming that anyone taking it has specialist knowledge around how to obtain it illegally/unethically, for example.

Why would you discuss that on a thread where people are enthused or excited or positive about a new painkiller for arthritis.

Why would anyone say 'oh im not sure about introducing or prescribing more types of painkiller for arthritis because you know how many people are already addicted to painkillers'?

If you want to start a thread about the many people who misuse over the counter or illegal drugs or take drugs for conditions they dont have or dont need, do by all means start that thread.

Any chance you can link that? Because I don’t know who denies people are getting it illegally. Would be interesting to read.

I agree with you OP, I have spent my whole adult life from the age of 18 watching my calories and exercising like a demon to keep slim, I always used to get comments how ‘lucky’ I was, people just assumed staying slim took me no effort at all when it’s been a huge effort for 40 years. Now I’m post menopausal and have gained about a stone, I’m still classed as slim but not by my standards and I am trying everything to shift it, upped my exercise (like I don’t do enough already 🙄) cut my calories and its very slowly working, but am so fed up of being constantly hungry, I just want to stop feeling hungry all the time and it appears this is what these jabs do, so yes hands up it annoys me that people can now diet without feeling starving yet I have to be permanently famished.

I’m still classed as slim but not by my standards

Then

it annoys me that people can now diet without feeling starving yet I have to be permanently famished

You don’t have to be famished, you’re choosing to be, so that you can fit an arbitrary ideal standard that you’ve set for yourself. Maybe that’s the issue here, not the weight loss injections?

I can't really see what the issue is with overweight people using these jabs to get to a normal weight. Probably it will be licensed for that in the future, maybe even to help maintenance for those that struggle to stay in the healthy weight range.

The problem will be people using it to make themselves underweight either because they think it looks good or because they have an eating disorder.

However in the long term if these drugs become sufficiently widespread (and abused) that anyone who wants to can become very thin then I expect extreme thinness will stop being desirable. Instead it will be something harder to achieve like a body toned through hours of pilates that will become the beauty standard.

Lower your standards and live a little? Are you actually happy living life like this?

Or perhaps women will finally realise we all come in different shapes and sizes and health is what really matters?!

Because it’s a medication to treat obesity which is an actual health condition? It’s not a “get skinny” jab!

God there’s so much toxic “thin is beautiful” bullshit on this thread. I really hope these archaic attitudes die a death before my daughter reaches adulthood.

Then just stop being hungry all the time. Only you are doing that to yourself. And for no good reason.

@Waboofoo that would be amazing wouldn't it? But the history of women's beauty standards comprising at various times, corsets, foot binding, lead based paints to make the skin look white when being outdoors was looked down on, stilettos etc etc suggests to me that something uncomfortable will be along to replace being underweight if it gets too easy.

Depressing thought but the evidence suggests you will probably be proved right!

It never will as long as men exist sadly.

@Disturbia81 it's nothing to do with men. This is all perpetuated by women viewing other women as their competitors

Because of men and what they think is attractive. What they look at, what they think is beautiful, what they perv on, the porn they watch etc. That's what causes the competitiveness.

Not it isnt at all. What women want to look like is quite far removed from what the average man thinks is attractive.

No one is forcing a woman to feel so shit about herself that she then slags off others for what they look like, what they eat and gets jealous if they perceive another person has lost weight. That is solely on them.

Nah, that’s not ok. This isn’t men’s fault, if women behave like this it’s on them.

We'll have to agree to disagree 😊

@Disturbia81 no. It's women. And the toxic cultures perpetuated by other women.

Men want partners who are generally, slim, fit & attractive. This drives competition. Evolutionary stuff.

No one should be peddling this. Women are responsible for their own behaviour and millions of us manage not to behave in this manner.

Exactly 💯