Risking a flaming but jealous of those on weight loss injections

[Notmyfinesthours]

I’ve specifically not put this in the weight loss section as I’d rather hear from those who aren’t dieting or thinking about it. Might help me find perspective better.

I am not overweight. I never have been.
I have however had what feels like a lifetime of making sure this is the case.

I suspect many women feel like me. Brought up to fear being fat or greedy or ‘let myself go’ as if it were the worst sin.

Ive skirted close to or actually been in the midst of orthorexia for most of my adult life. Always saying no to pudding, finding the latest food that will fill me up but not have too many calories and fixating on it before I find the next one. Exercising most days, fitting it in by missing lie ins or nights in front of the fire.

Fretting in pregnancy, menopause and any ill health leading to immobility that it might trigger weight gain.

you get the picture? Self flagellation is big driven by an instilled fear of being fat given to many in my generation (I’m 58) (and yes I know I should address this first- I am trying but the media doesn’t help)

Several of my friends and family are big eaters, always seem to have the toastie and cake when we are out and by their own admissions do little exercise. They have often jokingly talked about being slimmer but say they like food too much and ‘have no willpower’ and can’t be bothered to deny themselves for the sake of a few dress sizes.

I know it’s more complex than that but they basically enjoy life in the way it should be enjoyed to my mind and accept they will be a bit larger bodied. I’ve actually always really admired this as an attitude or at least been a bit jealous of it.

But with the new weight loss injections several of them have dropped weight significantly and are so slim and delighted.

I just feel so cheated. Like I’ve been so careful for so long and they haven’t but they get to be slim just with an injection.

I know it’s more complicated, I know it costs them money, might have risks etc but it’s clear so many celebs are doing the same and it feels like it’s not going to be more commonplace.

Why is this making me feel cheated and am I just an awful person?

I think the poster has misunderstood, anyone on jabs is on a diet. We are all reducing our intake, no sweets, crisps, fatty food, chocolate. In fact too many carbs and fatty food will make us ill,all the drug is doing is reducing our appetite to help us make healthy choices, to manage our portion sizes, by making us feel full longer.

it isn’t a magic drug where you inject and the fat melts away and we can eat what we please and are thin. No such drug exists.

and we all wish it was available 30 years ago, but it wasn’t.

I guess you feel cheated as you have worked hard all your life, and now people you assume are greedy - can also get slim with 'little work.'

In fact it isn't as easy as that - we are all learning better habits

I am on weight loss injections. Only started last week. Its unlikely i will tell people irl as everyone has an opinion - and what I do is none of their business

So in conclusion OP i think you should stop worrying about what other people do with their bodies

I don't understand the venemous backlash about weight loss jabs, it reminds me of the covid jab reaction - like why the hell are people so concerned with other peoples bodies - it is weird

It's sad.

What this thread has shown me is that all those people telling me over the last 5 years that ‘no one is looking at you in the gym’, ‘no one is judging you’ etc were wrong. There’s a whole tribe of women out there internally sneering at plump women - women who are clearly absolutely justified in feeling self conscious, judged and forced to nurse their low self-esteem in private.

Frankly I am shocked.

But fuck ‘em, because my non-lardy, non saggy, healthier body looks fab in designer 10s. I look ten years younger than most of them and my DH is loving having the ‘me’ that he fell in love with 30 years ago back in his life. And he definitely wasn’t sneering at my weight all this time, just concerned that I was unhappy and that my health (and thus our future) was impaired.

I don't think I have misunderstood how it works. My understanding is that the jabs make you not want the cake, not that you can eat the cake and not get fat. To not put on weight (until now) I have struggled my whole life to not eat the cake. I think everyone knows how hard that is. I'm now, after my relatives death, questioning my life choices and why I placed so much value on being slim when I didn't have to, I could have just had the cake. My relative ate it and as I said her body didn't everything she needed it to do, the extra weight didn't affect her health and played no part in her death (I know as she got older it may have affected her health).
And I haven't said a single negative thing about fat people, that's all on others and what they have said. I've just questioned why I bothered with all the dieting and food denial when food is one of the great pleasures of life.

But you understand that in order to get the injections you’d have to either be obese, or significantly overweight and suffering from weight related health issues? So it’s not the case that at a size 10 you could just pay for the jabs and never fancy cake.

You have made the comment about why you bothered..... meaning you should have perhaps done what you assumed others did and ate the cake.....it's very judgemental.

I understand that they are the rules and that the jabs have health and financial consequences in themselves. I would be surprised if people who were size ten couldn't get them prescribed (illegally) if they really wanted them though.
Q. What happens when people loss the weight? Do they get kicked off the jabs?

How is that judgemental of others?

I’m sure size 10s are able to get hold of it illegally, or at least get hold of a product that they are told is the same, but may in fact not be. Would you risk that?

For those who have lost weight on the jab, some of you will notice that your slim friends’
will suddenly have issues with you
You will be told that the weight loss doesn’t suit you and that you have changed and not for the better
This thread actually proves that there is a great deal of judgement and competition when it comes to weight loss

There is no end of drugs you can get illegally!!!! Is that seriously the avenue you would be going down @Kendodd ? I had friends when we all worked in the City in the 90s who loved coke not just for the energy hit but because it kept their weight down. How come, you haven't considered that? Probably less side effects too. Again, your logic baffles me.

@WiserOlderElf & others who say it’s only being prescribed legally for the obese, from what I see & hear it’s available privately for the overweight too via a Dr, poss borderline overweight, esp overseas , but appreciate we’re only talking about UK boards. The obese on NHS jabs, do they come off when they reach a healthy BMI or continue until a healthy BMI?

*not ‘boards’ mean UK.

& mean do the obese continue on jabs whilst still technically overweight or until healthy BMI?

No it doesn’t make you not want cake. I am trying to explain this as simply as I can. It makes you feel satisfied and fuller longer. It does not make you not want cake. In fact many people continue to eat cake and come off it, because wanting cake is about way more than a physical hunger.

if you wish to buy drugs illegally then I’m going to say you’re life’s likely to become a lot more miserable, there is a reason it is not prescribed. However if you wish to take risks with your health than we can’t stop you.

im also surprised at how you’ve now commandeered this thread to make it about your extreme envy, bitterness and resentment, it’s really unhealthy and I’m concerned for your mental health, it reads like being slim is overwhelming for you and you want a magic fix so it’s easier, and you’re envious if you think anyone else can get help, no matter how obese or unwell they are.

can you not see how damaging this is for you? Maybe counselling is the better route for you, therapy to help with your issues with body image and food. I’m sorry your life has been miserable. But maybe it’s gone too far now.

This thread has really opened my eyes to the resentment, boarding on hate from some posters towards slim people. Painting us with all kinds of feelings that, I for one certainly don't have and haven't expressed. I know my relative never felt any resentment/hate towards me. She made the odd comment about how she wished she could resist the cake like I can, that was it though. I made the odd comment about how hard it was. No hate/resentment or putting all kinds of feelings that didn't exist on to the other person, at all.

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Most of us have just asked you to explain your comments @Kendodd . It has been really hard to follow your thought processes. I don't hate slim people, I have been one myself plenty of times and thoroughly enjoyed it. You came on and said you understood how the OP felt and that you felt like you have been made a fool of for living an adult life of denial and misery staying slim. That was bound to make people curious about your choices!

People who are size ten can get hold of any manner of drugs illegally, codeine, paracetamol in larger than 14/16 quantities, laxatives if they are bulimic. Does that mean noone should have access to those either?

And when people lose the weight, they are gradually weaned down the dosage, building up their calories on a programme that moves them towards maintenance. Many people will be able to come off them completely and maintain their weight, some may remain on a low dose long term if their prescriber/endocrinologist/GP feels this is best for them. So, no, they don’t get ‘kicked off’ the jabs.

Most people are struggling, it seems to me. Some are struggling to maintain a healthy weight. Others with their feelings about food. Some are struggling to avoid getting bigger. Others are struggling with mobility because they lost the struggle. At some point people will be struggling with how to manage after using the injections, whether it’s unexpected health complications or the expected problem of maintaining the healthier weight.

No judgement from me for anyone in any stage of the struggle. OP hasn’t said anything awful.

I’ve struggled with my weight for years and am only really now accepting how disordered my eating is. I’ve been size 14-22 and back again. 16 at the moment. I haven’t been a healthy weight ever, I don’t think.

It’s shit. For everyone. We all feel crap. It’s an equal opportunity situation so don’t judge the people who feel crap in a slightly different way to you.

I did say I've had a happy life, food is just one part of it. My relative also had a happy life, being overweight was just one part of it.
And as for what you describe as my 'extreme bitterness and envy' if by this you mean questioning by life choices around food and the value I have placed on being slim, well, it's a prime example of what I just posted, reading things that aren't there. I also haven't said I was planning to illegally get the jabs, again something you have just made up.
I didn't know the jabs made you feel full though rather than made you not want the cake (although a big overlap in there) so thank you for that.

@Kendodd it's pretty clear you a) have an eating disorder and b) need to seek grief counselling

Odd how so many people think that the obese among us don't know what it's like to 'resist the cake'. Believe me, when I give in to temptation it's the tip of the iceberg. I can show you many, many food diaries from over the years that show denial. I've no doubt I've eaten more than slimmer people, but the idea that this means obese people don't understand what it feels like to deny themselves food and feel miserable because of it is just absurd.

Also I'm dismayed to learn that so many people who are of a healthy weight have miserable, difficult lives because of it. Whenever I've opened up about weight struggles, or read advice from others, a multitude of people have commented on how easy it all is, we just need to eat less and move more. No one mentioned until now that it was a life of misery and constant struggle. Maybe we've got more in common than I thought.

Oh I certainly don’t hate slim people, I am one. I apologise if that’s how it came across. I was just really struggling to understand your thought processes around this, genuinely.