Screaming kids on trains what the F is wrong with parents these days

[denverz]

I mean why can’t parents tell they’re not so dc to shut the hell up? I mean they don’t have to say it quite like that of course but come on parent your kids. I’m currently on a long haul train to London there are only five stops and the first three were blissful then gets on a dad with two kids one school aged one toddler and neither will stop shouting. I know kids get excited and that’s all well and good but it’s 7am and people are sleeping on the train. The dad isn’t even attempting to quiet them foen. AIbu to think he’s a knob?

Medal?

FGS

Are you in the quiet zone?

Shouting and screaming on a train isn't 'playing'

No.

Kids can be kids in a playground

They need to be taught how to behave in other public spaces

We were only going to the next stop. The train was delayed by 2 hours and was our only way home. If I'd got off we would have been stranded there. I tried everything to comfort him but all he wanted was to go home which I couldn't control. The horrible woman did nothing but scare my son and make an already stressful situation worse. And the people working on the train obviously agreed with me as she was immediately asked to leave. Absolutely ridiculous that you think you wouldn't have been allowed to make noise at 16 months. Have you ever tried to tell a 16 month old to be quiet? If you think it's that easy you obviously know nothing about children.

The noisiest train I've been on was from Waterloo to Hampton Court for the flower show. Full of garrulous pensioners! Not that they were badly behaved or blaring music out of their phones, but it was a fair old cacophony 🤣

@Strawberrycheesecake7 yet all of my nieces and nephews have always been quiet on public transport?

I was in a restaurant last night and there were children running around chasing each other at 8.30pm. No attempt whatsoever from the parents to stop them. 🙄

I must have been imagining all the screaming kids on trains in the 1980s, as according to folk here it couldn't possibly have been happening, due to being thrashed or something?

Yeah, if he's not trying then I agree!
As a parent to a toddler, I do appreciate other parents who try to quieten their children though. My toddler is 2 (nearly 3) but I already say to him that people are trying to relax, everyone will be looking at you wondering why you're so loud, they will get annoyed, etc. He may be too young to fully get it but I also say it so they can hear in trying to do something about it!

Yeah, if he's not trying then I agree!
As a parent to a toddler, I do appreciate other parents who try to quieten their children though. My toddler is 2 (nearly 3) but I already say to him that people are trying to relax, everyone will be looking at you wondering why you're so loud, they will get annoyed, etc. He may be too young to fully get it but I also say it so they can hear i'm trying to do something about it!

I'm 25.

My parents just made sure I was entertained.

Maybe it’s that there is generally more noise everywhere these days. I don’t understand why people assume that strangers in the street want to hear the phone conversation you’re having on speaker, held horizontally, but they seem to want to share.

My son is very quiet on public transport usually as well. I take him on short journeys all the time and he's good as gold. But not when he's stuck there for 2 hours, everyone is stressed and complaining around him and he doesn't understand what's going on. He was already upset and confused and a stranger shouting at him made everything worse. People who think it's acceptable to shout at small children they don't know are nothing but nasty bullies.

Yes, they need to be taught how to behave in public places. But the thing is as toddlers they are still learning and in the early stages of that process, as are the parents, particularly if it's their first child, or if their second child is more of a handul. So by dint of that, there will be some still getting it wrong which you will see when out and about.

Would much prefer sitting next to a bunch of kids than what regularly happens on the east coast line on Fridays, a group of blokes with half a dozen cans each get on and sit opposite me at Newcastle. It feels like a very long trip to London.

I’m in agreement, no one wants to hear it. Be more aware of others. Even when you try to escape into the ‘quiet’ carriage you get people that want to talk on their phone on loudspeaker or watch something with the volume up. Def worse post Covid, some people are much more entitled. As for screaming kids, we have neighbours whose voices you can hear from miles off. Walking home from school I can hear them when I am in the house, the mother shouting loving the sound of her own voice. In the garden and the mother is in the house, shouting. I can hear her. The kids think this is normal behaviour.

I did comfort him of course but sometimes young toddlers are going to make noise no matter what you do. If the dad in the OP wasn't even trying then that is different you're right.

It is irritating. Fortunately I’m autistic and extremely intolerant of noises of all kinds so I make sure I always have ear buds with me wherever I go.
However, this thread shows me two different things. Firstly, the absolute gold standard of parenting comes from people who either haven’t had kids yet or whose children are grown up (and I can be guilty of the latter). Secondly, using the word parent as a verb is incredibly annoying! Is it a new thing? I wouldn’t dream of instructing someone to “parent your child”; what a prat I’d look.

Met a friend for lunch today and experienced this. Empty table between us and the next table where there was a mum and toddler having lunch. Toddler spent most of lunch stomping at full stomp round and round and round the empty table right next to us. Interspersed with some screaming and shouting at her mum and occasionally picked up dropped food off the floor and ate it. Carried on for over an hour.

was struggling to talk to my friend at times over the shrieking. Mum sat eating her lunch and occasionally going “lily, come and sit down, lily do I need to put you in a high chair”. But didn’t actually follow through and ram the kid in a high chair. Though I suspect the screaming would have gone up a notch if she had.

spoilt the meal for us.

If he's making no attempt, other people should

A hard stare and a 'stop screaming' from a stranger should stop any small child in their tracks

No, it's nobody else's responsibility to parent someone's child.

spoilt the meal for us.

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This is why I never took my kids out to eat as small children.

Other people are paying good money for a quiet lunch, it's not a fucking soft play

No, it's nobody else's responsibility to parent someone's child.

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Seems like it is these days

Otherwise just endure the screaming

Just witnessed a very lazy dad refuse to move his toddler out of the aisle for a ticket inspector. Saying 'you can walk around him'.

Feckless dads are a pain in the arse. My dad would have lifted me out of the way.

I really have to assume you don’t have children, otherwise I’d be surprised if you do. If you do, you’ll realise why you’re being totally unreasonable.

Obviously there are parents with a lack of parenting skill, but you can’t tar every parents with a screaming child with the same brush. Children sometimes make noise unexpectedly, especially if they’re young as they do not have full control over their emotions, and are also on long dysregulating journeys.