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Screaming kids on trains what the F is wrong with parents these days

124 replies

denverz · 12/10/2024 07:16

I mean why can’t parents tell they’re not so dc to shut the hell up? I mean they don’t have to say it quite like that of course but come on parent your kids. I’m currently on a long haul train to London there are only five stops and the first three were blissful then gets on a dad with two kids one school aged one toddler and neither will stop shouting. I know kids get excited and that’s all well and good but it’s 7am and people are sleeping on the train. The dad isn’t even attempting to quiet them foen. AIbu to think he’s a knob?

OP posts:
Sherrystrull · 12/10/2024 09:17

@crostini

No way. A quiet museum is not the place to achieve this. It's selfish.

CrumbleintheJungle · 12/10/2024 09:17

Greenerstreet · 12/10/2024 07:24

YABU to imply this is all ‘parents these days’ based on one experience with one parent. There are shit parents and good parents, just like there have always been. And I can’t judge this parent as we don’t know the full circumstances here.

It's probably based on loads of experience of loads of parents. We all see it! (Or hear it, unfortunately).

5Bagatelles · 12/10/2024 09:18

My unpopular opinion is that any parent that manages to get two small kids dressed, fed and on a train at 7am deserves a medal not judgement. The real problem here is that the average Brit is miserable (economic stagnation, low wages, awful weather, long commutes on overpriced trains at 7am etc.). People in happier (often sunnier) countries are kinder and more accommodating of very normal behaviour in children. They are far too happy to let a screaming child ruin their day.

Sometimeswinning · 12/10/2024 09:19

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 12/10/2024 08:00

A woman shouted this recently at my 16 month old son who was crying because the train had been delayed leaving for over an hour and he didn’t understand. I was making every effort to settle him. The train conductor asked her to leave.

Yes and this is not the same situation is it?

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:20

OP you're going to get a ton of "but they're just kids!!! They make noise!!!"

But you're 100% right. Buses, trains, cafes, everywhere. They're just always screaming. People make no effort to entertain their children or to keep them quiet.

SweetGenie · 12/10/2024 09:21

You need to get some noise cancelling headphones for train journeys. Listen to music - that normally cancels the noise. Children AM problems, adults on phones and pissed people are more PM problems. Noisy twats are everywhere on every train. Get headphones

JohnCravensNewsround · 12/10/2024 09:22

I got on a train out if london last Saturday and there was a kid who was literally screaming at the top of his voice.
I moved to the next carriage at the first stop and could still hear him. They then decided to take a walk into the next carriage.

LlynTegid · 12/10/2024 09:22

If a parent is making an effort to get their child to be quiet or behave, I have every sympathy and accept it as one of those unfortunate things. If not, I think it unacceptable.

You will have to see the bad behaviour once, the parent who does not bother will have far worse to manage in most cases when they get older. The parent who regards such behaviour as unacceptable and seeks to stop it is going to benefit in years to come, like a kind of investment.

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:23

SweetGenie · 12/10/2024 09:21

You need to get some noise cancelling headphones for train journeys. Listen to music - that normally cancels the noise. Children AM problems, adults on phones and pissed people are more PM problems. Noisy twats are everywhere on every train. Get headphones

I have noise cancelling AirPods and on more than one occasion they've not been enough against screaming children

outdamnedspots · 12/10/2024 09:23

Why didn't you ask him to parent his kids, op?

TitusMoan · 12/10/2024 09:26

LSTMS30555 · 12/10/2024 09:00

Kids will be kids
It's a train not a library or hotel.
People sleeping should have gone to bed earlier 🤷🏻‍♀️ surely if you regularly travel by train you know how noisy they are?
Unfortunately children (especially toddlers) don't come with an off switch.

They do come with an off switch, and volume control too. Parents just have to teach their children to use it.

It’s called parenting.

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGGG · 12/10/2024 09:28

Oh God. This reminds me when I was making my way to Hastings from London with my 2 year old in the buggy. He was fast asleep and a mum comes on with a newborn in the baby carrier and a little girl around 4 years old.

I kid you not, this girl would NOT stop screaming the lyrics to Frozen at the top of her lungs and her mum did nothing about it. In the end my son woke up and I asked the lady if she could ask her daughter to keep it down as we were on public transport. The mum had the cheek to look at me as if I was mad🤣

I don’t understand it, I really don’t. I have a 2 & a 3 year old. Whenever they’re loud or making noise, I always ask them to keep it down. Not that they listen mind but parents should at least try to monitor volume!!

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 12/10/2024 09:34

Sometimeswinning · 12/10/2024 09:19

Yes and this is not the same situation is it?

Isn’t it? Both involve literal toddlers shouting/crying and incredibly rude passengers that want to shout at tiny children to shut up. Sounds pretty similar to me.

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:40

@Strawberrycheesecake7 it's not rude to want a peaceful journey. Parent your kids.

Sometimeswinning · 12/10/2024 09:41

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 12/10/2024 09:34

Isn’t it? Both involve literal toddlers shouting/crying and incredibly rude passengers that want to shout at tiny children to shut up. Sounds pretty similar to me.

I could be wrong and maybe you didn’t bother trying to comfort your child. In which case you’re right and I stand corrected.

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 12/10/2024 09:43

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:40

@Strawberrycheesecake7 it's not rude to want a peaceful journey. Parent your kids.

I was. He’s barely more than a baby and I was trying everything to comfort him. You can’t just switch children off when they’re making too much noise. They’re not dolls. You were a child once. I highly doubt you were quiet 100% of the time.

Lifelover16 · 12/10/2024 09:48

it’s natural for children to be excited and noisy sometimes, and it can be annoying. In this case the dad is being inept. He should teach his kids how to behave with respect for others, and at least bring games/tablet/books/snacks or something to occupy them during the journey.

Getonwitit · 12/10/2024 09:48

Go and sit in the next seat and play some really loud screeching on your phone, that will attract his attention then tell him to parent his children.

Reugny · 12/10/2024 09:49

CheshireDing · 12/10/2024 07:41

Honestly I would just end up saying 'quite loudly' 'for goodness sake shut up'

they probably will too as it's coming from another adult and not their parent 🤣

I used to do this in my teens and 20s.

I think it worked partially because I looked younger than the kids parents but was still an adult.

Everyone's welcome to tell DD to shut up in public.

Itsacrazyworldisntit · 12/10/2024 09:49

Some parents give a damn, some don’t, I agree that some people don’t consider others.

Octopusgreen · 12/10/2024 09:50

I don’t really understand it - when mine were small I would have had a bag full of stuff to keep them occupied on a long journey - puzzle books colouring puzzles stories .. Usborne even used to make travel themed books of activities - no idea if they still do . It was hard work keeping them entertained for the whole journey - but it was my job

itwasnevermine · 12/10/2024 09:51

@Strawberrycheesecake7 I would never have been allowed to scream on public transport. If I ever did, I'd have been soothed or quite frankly my parents would've gotten off the train/bus at the next stop and calmed me down.

Sherrystrull · 12/10/2024 09:52

Octopusgreen · 12/10/2024 09:50

I don’t really understand it - when mine were small I would have had a bag full of stuff to keep them occupied on a long journey - puzzle books colouring puzzles stories .. Usborne even used to make travel themed books of activities - no idea if they still do . It was hard work keeping them entertained for the whole journey - but it was my job

They do. I've got them for my children to use in restaurants etc. they're very good.

Nanny0gg · 12/10/2024 10:00

Greenerstreet · 12/10/2024 07:24

YABU to imply this is all ‘parents these days’ based on one experience with one parent. There are shit parents and good parents, just like there have always been. And I can’t judge this parent as we don’t know the full circumstances here.

What full circumstances?

Shutting them up may not work but people need to try

Reugny · 12/10/2024 10:02

Lifelover16 · 12/10/2024 09:48

it’s natural for children to be excited and noisy sometimes, and it can be annoying. In this case the dad is being inept. He should teach his kids how to behave with respect for others, and at least bring games/tablet/books/snacks or something to occupy them during the journey.

That would require planning on his part.

The OP should have really said something to the dad otherwise he won't learn. Hopefully they are as noisy on the way back and someone speaks up.

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