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If you missed your kid's parents' night because you were on a term time holiday, would you expect the teacher to allow another appointment when you return?

519 replies

Purpleturtle46 · 10/10/2024 20:34

Just that really. Parents night same week every year and parents informed 2 months in advance.

YABU-yes the teacher should arrange to see you at an alternative time on your return.

YANBU-no, you booked and holiday and missed it so that's on you!

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Cherrysoup · 10/10/2024 21:18

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:07

What kind of form would need completing?

Our heads of year often send 'round robins' requesting info eg behaviour, progress, attitude to learning, particularly if parents are trying to obtain an EHCP, for example, or parents aren't able to attend parents' evenings, but we do have to draw the line at completing dozens!

Babbadoobabbadock · 10/10/2024 21:19

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:16

It's called meeting the needs of the child!

Parent evenings are offered, if you choose to go on holiday that's not school's problem

SabreIsMyFave · 10/10/2024 21:19

This CANNOT be a serious question. Confused

Lemonadeand · 10/10/2024 21:20

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 20:46

Separated parents have every right to separate appointments.
Do you expect abused women (&men) to sit with their abuser just to save you 10 minutes?

Isn’t that about 50% of parents? So you’re expecting teachers to offer 50% more appointments slots? So say there’s 300 kids in the year, at five minute appointments slots for a parents’ evening you think each teacher should be offering 450 slots? And they should be doing that for every year group?

Its not just 10 minutes, is it?

CorbyTrouserPress · 10/10/2024 21:22

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:16

It's called meeting the needs of the child!

You’re funny

Delphigirl · 10/10/2024 21:22

No

Lemonadeand · 10/10/2024 21:22

IWillBeWaxingAnOwl · 10/10/2024 21:14

Doctors and psychologists in child services or specialist adult services (eg learning disabilities) do frequently offer 2 appointments - one for each parent. There are several patients I currently have on my caseload who have this requirement (only one where parent to parent abuse is a factor).

ETA: I agree with your overall post that if parents night is on a set date and parents arrange to be away over that time, you shouldn't be under pressure to offer alternatives.

Edited

And we wonder why the waiting lists are so long 🙄

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:23

CorbyTrouserPress · 10/10/2024 21:22

You’re funny

It was in response to the Doctor explaining that the service offers both parents separate appointments.
Children's needs can only be met by separated parents if they both know & understand the child's needs in the health care sector

mumedu · 10/10/2024 21:24

Frontedadverbials · 10/10/2024 20:38

Yes. I'm a primary teacher and always try to see every parent, which usually involves seeing several on a different evening. It's really not a big issue (and I'm not martyr to my job!).

I agree. I am a primary teacher and I would try and accommodate, although it's not ideal. That said, I would never go on a term time holiday (teacher or not).

LondonFox · 10/10/2024 21:25

Purpleturtle46 · 10/10/2024 21:05

Yeah teachers have lives too and you are referring to one parent! There are roughly 30 sets of parents from each class!

If you need to manage 30 x n amount of 10 minute slots, surely creating a document where parents can put their own name down for a slot rather than teacher allocating them and expecting everyone to bend over would give much better result? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ghosttofu99 · 10/10/2024 21:25

I feel so sorry for teachers. The situation with too what some parents feel entitled to while putting in little effort themselves is out of hand at the moment and wouldn’t be accepted in most other scenarios.

Imagine you worked in HR and offered an interview slot to a candidate but the candidate decided to book a last minute holiday on that date, then messaged from their holiday asking for an alternative slot, then said ‘come on it’s just 10 minutes, can’t you spare 10 mins for me because I’m so special.’ What impression would that give in any other walk of life?

An what hope do those kids have when they reach adulthood if that is the behaviour being modelled to them?

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:25

Lemonadeand · 10/10/2024 21:20

Isn’t that about 50% of parents? So you’re expecting teachers to offer 50% more appointments slots? So say there’s 300 kids in the year, at five minute appointments slots for a parents’ evening you think each teacher should be offering 450 slots? And they should be doing that for every year group?

Its not just 10 minutes, is it?

I think every parent who requests an appointment on the parents evening should get one.
FYI it's a 4 minute online appointment for my child's school.

Babbadoobabbadock · 10/10/2024 21:26

@LondonFox that's exactly what does happen

lazyarse123 · 10/10/2024 21:26

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:16

It's called meeting the needs of the child!

The parents should be making sure the child goes to school. I don't want to hear any bollocks about "making memories and once in a lifetime opportunities" . Education is still compulsory and working hours past your finish time is not.

angellinaballerina7 · 10/10/2024 21:27

Obviously not. Why should someone have to give up their time for my decisions?

tediber · 10/10/2024 21:27

No, it s set date so if you can't make it that's just unfortunate.

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 21:27

Babbadoobabbadock · 10/10/2024 21:19

Parent evenings are offered, if you choose to go on holiday that's not school's problem

I agree. We don't do term time holidays.

It's the separated parents bit I don't agree with.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 10/10/2024 21:28

Abuse is clearly a different issue, but just separated parents - tough shit? Either take it in turns or suck it up and attend together? Not sure that parents’ domestic arrangements are the school’s problem

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 10/10/2024 21:28

I might ring you but I’m not arranging to see you.
Parents evenings are part of a teachers directed time. Whether the teacher has goodwill outside of the directed time may well depend on the school.
I’m a teacher and I was also the kid whose parents couldn’t be in the same room. No abuse but a messy divorce. Having them together would’ve been agony for me. I’d make two appointments for that kid.

LlamaTwirl · 10/10/2024 21:29

No. I'd still go on holiday though.

HotDogJumpingFrogHaveACookie · 10/10/2024 21:30

No. I don't think teachers should be expected to facilitate anything for parents who think holidays take priority over schooling. You make your choice to take them out of school, but that doesn't mean anybody owes you anything.

Boobygravy · 10/10/2024 21:30

I remember queuing for my timed slot with dd’s English teacher.
Some cf parents would not shut up about their dc and eventually I had to give up and go home.
I gave dd a note for teacher to say sorry I missed her but she looked rather tied up and if everything was ok then not to worry.
She wrote a few lines on the note and returned it , job done.
Most parents evenings are just confirmation of what parents already know.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 10/10/2024 21:30

Dithercats · 10/10/2024 20:46

Separated parents have every right to separate appointments.
Do you expect abused women (&men) to sit with their abuser just to save you 10 minutes?

But it’s not 10 minutes. If 10 separate parents ask for it that is 100 minutes and which is a lot.

Advicepleaze · 10/10/2024 21:30

Purpleturtle46 · 10/10/2024 20:45

Yes, in those cases we would provide 2 appointments. Otherwise there are 2 parents nights a year so one can come one and one to the other if you can't be in the same room for 10 mins IMO.

Separated/divorced parents are legally entitled to separate appointments. Not for us teachers to judge, but to fulfil our legal and contractual obligations on reporting to parents.
As for parents on a term time holiday - that’s a no!

SilkFloss · 10/10/2024 21:30

"I think every parent who requests an appointment on the parents evening should get one"
And they'll be given one. ONE. ON the evening, not on a random night to suit your holiday plans.
Although, to be accurate, it's every child who is allocated the slot. Which parent attends it is up to you.

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