If you missed your kid's parents' night because you were on a term time holiday, would you expect the teacher to allow another appointment when you return?

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Just that really. Parents night same week every year and parents informed 2 months in advance.

YABU-yes the teacher should arrange to see you at an alternative time on your return.

YANBU-no, you booked and holiday and missed it so that's on you!

You do realise most teachers started their careers in the private sector (and often go back to it).

Not many teachers go straight from school, to uni to teaching nowadays.
They come from a variety of working backgrounds.

I’m sure if you thought teachers had it easier than you, you would become a teacher yourself so you obviously don’t think that.

Or perhaps turn up at the set time rather than go on holiday during term time and miss the appointment to discuss your child’s education

Love the holidays too much for a private sector job.

well exactly. It’s swings and roundabouts. Shit loads of holidays Vs 10m- 1hr more of parents evening twice a year.

so why the moaning!

1000 lots of 10 minutes is 10,000 minutes which is 166h 40m which is 4.44 working weeks. Do you really work an extra 22 days a year?

You said that the appointments were in teachers working hours but then went into suggest times that were not in teachers working hours or directed time allocation therefore they are not being paid for.

It very much is of use to me. Teaching primary involves dozens of 2 minute jobs every day; I genuinely think it's one of the reasons it's so challenging as there are so many things to keep track of. 10 mins here and there means I can set up things for the following day, making the following morning much easier.

Teachers have 1265 hours they can be directed to work (aka told what to do).

@Serendipitousnight I don’t think it’s possible for any teacher to be a ‘jobsworth’ these days. They give up their lunch breaks and evenings to run clubs, give up holidays to go on school trips, evenings to parents evenings. I’ve just got back from a 6th form open evening where my DC’s teachers were there until 8.30pm tonight to help the kids decide what A-Levels to take. My kids PE teachers also have Saturday morning and week day evening sports fixtures.

If a parent is happy enough with their DC’s education to take them out of school in term time, presumably they generally feel their DC is doing OK at school. A teacher doesn’t then need to arrange a special one off meeting to reassure them all is OK.

I’m sure if you thought teachers had it easier than you, you would become a teacher yourself so you obviously don’t think that.

eh? You do the job you think is easiest with no other criteria? I’d hate to be a teacher tbh

Because that's not the only extra work the entitled parents expect us to do.

Teachers have 1265 hours they can be directed to work (aka told what to do).

sorry, again, what is your question @Hercisback1

What are your thoughts on the question? Or did you just see a post about teachers and use it as an excuse to bash a profession I am guessing you have no experience of?

Absolutely not.

*How is it nasty?

I said they don’t need to disclose something they’re not comfortable with and asked what happens when their child needs a doctors appointment.

Why does that offend you?*

Your exact words were "if you don't want to go to parents evening and don't give a reason why" to a poster who discussed DV. If you don't see what the issue is with that then I'm not sure what to tell you. It's hardly as simple as the poster not wanting to go is it?

As an aside, a doctors appointment is a different situation.

It wasn't my question. A PP asked which time you expected us to make the calls in. You suggested times outside of a teachers directed time (1265 per year).

1000 lots of 10 minutes is 10,000 minutes which is 166h 40m which is 4.44 working weeks. Do you really work an extra 22 days a year?

3 dc, eldest is nearly 17. Whilst we've always done our best to go to every parents evening, there have been a couple we've been unable to attend over the years.

When that's happened I've just sent an email asking if there's another day we could arrange and it's never been a problem.

If I'd ever got a 'well tough luck, this was your one shot and you missed it' response like some teachers on here claim they give...yes, that would be a big problem. Thankfully one I've never had to face as dc's teachers have all been professional and competent at their jobs.

It wasn't my question. A PP asked which time you expected us to make the calls in. You suggested times outside of a teachers directed time (1265 per year)

because you finish at 3:30? Ok then. Either you do or you don’t. You can’t have it both ways really

@Serendipitousnight the question was when would you like the teacher to make the appointment? You named times that were not in teacher hours. They are contracted 1265 hours, which covers contact time with the children and things like parents evenings/ staff training etc Anything they do beyond that is chosen. Of course teachers work more hours than that to do the best for the kids, but where they become resentful of when people Feel entitled to it.

No, absolutely not, if they choose to go on holiday and miss it, that’s on the parents

You obviously do parents night in your own room - I've never worked in a school where I was in my own classroom for these meetings.

If I'd ever got a 'well tough luck, this was your one shot and you missed it' response like some teachers on here claim they give...yes, that would be a big problem. Thankfully one I've never had to face as dc's teachers have all been professional and competent at their jobs

too right. The teachers I’ve met have all been amazing and competent and professional. I can only imagine there’s a lot of jobsworth small town teacher folk on this thread

So being professional and good at their jobs means giving up their time freely? I actually think the best teachers use their time wisely.

Having said that, if a parent apologised for missing a parents evening and politely asked to reschedule I would always accommodate.

My children's school have never had an issue providing two appointments. The abuse happened when the children were very small so before they started school. Since then we only communicate through a court ordered app that can monitor the tone of his communications.

It's shouldn't take a genius to work out that often people divorce when children are young because of abuse.

Doctors - he doesn't come. He gets sent a copy of the letter that goes to GPs after any hospital appointments.

I have ring doorbell to ensure if he comes to doorstep it is monitored. The police have been involved on a number of occasions because of his behaviour towards me.

Ok @Italiandreams thats the real problem isn’t it. 10 minutes past 3:30 and it’s ’not my to work.’