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How much do you need to earn for 3 kids?

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Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 07/10/2024 09:58

When you don’t live in London and have very average expenses?

for arguments sake, I googled and saw the average mortgage is £1400
average heating for 4/5 people is £200 a month (British Gas website)

assume no ‘bad debts’ and no private school

id love another kid, if possible, but I do see on here often on the cost of a third and that being a large factor, so I’d like to understand what is the amount people think you need to earn pre tax to live comfortably with 3.

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Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:48

Yes they’re modest where I live (outskirts of London)

good benefits though!

impressive only £300 in CB payback

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 19:49

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 17:34

Can you do it financially? Sure on the basis of no private ed, the holidays you take and fact you’re not looking to move.

Could I do it? No

but even putting aside finances… what you describe sounds hectic, tiring and stressful. You don’t already do it op. Because you don’t have 3 kids! The idea of working full time in the conservatory along sharing with my husband … and then in the Lounge I hear my family member with my baby and then run for school pick up, walk back in and immediately have to leave the kids to return to the conservatory… well it sounds bloomin awful. And prob why all my friends with 3 are either SAHMs or work part time (or one works full time
but husband is SAHD). Me? I went part time and then SAHM and now back part time that my youngest (of 3) is 12. What you describe sounds financially and logistically possible.

but whether it sounds pleasant for either you, your husband or any of the kids? Well no

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We worked in the conservatory / bedroom with my mum looking after 2 toddlers for an entire day rather than an hour at the end of the day, probably why it doesn’t worry me hahaha

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Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:49

But the benefits was not my reason for posting

it was how unpleasant and stressful this sounds for you, your husband and your very young children (and relies a lot on a family member being available a LOT!)

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:50

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 19:49

We worked in the conservatory / bedroom with my mum looking after 2 toddlers for an entire day rather than an hour at the end of the day, probably why it doesn’t worry me hahaha

So separate offices?

how old is this family member?

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:51

Op, not sure how to say this so I’ll just jump in, but are you ND? Or think maybe you are?

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:56

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 07/10/2024 10:20

Ok so this is comparable to us, we have £6.3, mortgage £1300 but will go down. Childcare costs are low, youngest is nearly 3.

what do you define as very well off?

there scope for progression for both of us in the next few years

So your take home of £6.3k is after all tax and pension deductions?

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 19:58

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:48

Yes they’re modest where I live (outskirts of London)

good benefits though!

impressive only £300 in CB payback

Edited

Well he put a big amount in his pension through salary sacrifice the car deductible is salary sacrifice too so that took the figure down.

we don’t live in london. The average salary in London is about 70k isn’t it ?

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Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:59

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 19:58

Well he put a big amount in his pension through salary sacrifice the car deductible is salary sacrifice too so that took the figure down.

we don’t live in london. The average salary in London is about 70k isn’t it ?

Well London is pretty big! Around my area in zone 2 - not it’s much more than that.

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:59

So the £6.3 take home is after all deductions?

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:01

Anyway I’ll leave you be as you have a tendency to get very focussed on one particular poster!

my point is - sounds manic for the entire family including your kids and mother

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:01

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 19:56

So your take home of £6.3k is after all tax and pension deductions?

That was the yr before it’s about 6.4k now, but hubs through work gets the HI, enhanced insurance, and the car so he looses a fair amount monthly, plus student loan, pension etc

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Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:02

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:01

Anyway I’ll leave you be as you have a tendency to get very focussed on one particular poster!

my point is - sounds manic for the entire family including your kids and mother

What a snarky little comment, I just reply to comments on the thread as that’s what it’s there for

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Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:02

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:01

That was the yr before it’s about 6.4k now, but hubs through work gets the HI, enhanced insurance, and the car so he looses a fair amount monthly, plus student loan, pension etc

He’s still paying off his student loans and he is in his mid/late thirties??!

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:03

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:02

What a snarky little comment, I just reply to comments on the thread as that’s what it’s there for

Well it goes back to my question whether you are ND

But anyway I’ll hide thread

good luck

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:11

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:03

Well it goes back to my question whether you are ND

But anyway I’ll hide thread

good luck

Of what relevance is neurodiversity? You seem nice

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Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 20:13

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:02

He’s still paying off his student loans and he is in his mid/late thirties??!

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As are most people I know. He’s in his mid 30s, like me… who is also still paying it back. He has less than me because he’s earned more for longer and i only started working later when I finished my PhD

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JaninaDuszejko · 28/11/2025 20:45

Ragtoe · 28/11/2025 20:02

He’s still paying off his student loans and he is in his mid/late thirties??!

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In the UK people are paying what is effectively a graduate tax for most of their working life.

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 21:05

JaninaDuszejko · 28/11/2025 20:45

In the UK people are paying what is effectively a graduate tax for most of their working life.

She knows that but is obviously trying to put the boot in for some reason, implying I’m autistic (really dislike when people try to use neurodivergence as some sort of slight), the comment about our salaires being small and then the implication that my husband is some sort of looser for still paying back his stupid loan.

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JaninaDuszejko · 28/11/2025 21:14

Or she's from a country where people pay back student loans as a matter of priority because it impacts your credit rating. MN is becoming global so you increasingly see comments like that that show no understanding of the UK.

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 28/11/2025 21:17

JaninaDuszejko · 28/11/2025 21:14

Or she's from a country where people pay back student loans as a matter of priority because it impacts your credit rating. MN is becoming global so you increasingly see comments like that that show no understanding of the UK.

She said they live in London

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Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 29/11/2025 07:29

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not cross but I think that poster definitely was trying to be not so kind. I don’t really care if you think my salary is modest or not. It is what it is and it won’t be that way forever.

yes, you’re a bit older than me, and I imagine you had £1k tuition fees and perhaps even grants available. The fees had been increased for a while before we went to university.

one day a week is extensive reliance on family? Guess it depends on the family but it’s just how it’s always worked for mine.

yes I hope I fall pregnant too and get to take many many blissful holidays!

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Cherrycollagen · 29/11/2025 08:46

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 29/11/2025 07:29

not cross but I think that poster definitely was trying to be not so kind. I don’t really care if you think my salary is modest or not. It is what it is and it won’t be that way forever.

yes, you’re a bit older than me, and I imagine you had £1k tuition fees and perhaps even grants available. The fees had been increased for a while before we went to university.

one day a week is extensive reliance on family? Guess it depends on the family but it’s just how it’s always worked for mine.

yes I hope I fall pregnant too and get to take many many blissful holidays!

we’d put the youngest in 3x a week, a family member would watch the youngest at our house one day, eldest would be in wrap 3 days and we’d take 30 mins out in the day to collect the older two and the family member would supervise til 5,

isn’t that one full day a week
plus 3 days until 5?

either way… reading what you have planned as to how you’d both work full time in the conservatory and childcare arrangements made me come out in a cold sweat.

Those holidays are going to be well deserved!

Cherrycollagen · 29/11/2025 08:49

I’m in Sevenoaks, and £50/60/70k is not a high salary.

I don’t want to offend you op. But it’s fact.

i mean.. it’s a very decent salary! But a high salary, it is not around where I live.

But I can certainly imagine in parts of the UK, it definitely is, and you obviously live there

How much do you need to earn for 3 kids?
Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 29/11/2025 09:22

Cherrycollagen · 29/11/2025 08:46

we’d put the youngest in 3x a week, a family member would watch the youngest at our house one day, eldest would be in wrap 3 days and we’d take 30 mins out in the day to collect the older two and the family member would supervise til 5,

isn’t that one full day a week
plus 3 days until 5?

either way… reading what you have planned as to how you’d both work full time in the conservatory and childcare arrangements made me come out in a cold sweat.

Those holidays are going to be well deserved!

No it would be one day a week and that’s it, although for some I guess that’s extensive.

the 3 days my older kids would be in wrap around club as they currently are.

the other day would be our lieu days.

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